(07-01-2013, 06:00 PM)Momoni Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 05:49 PM)Rhio Wrote: Right.  The real purpose of this vote is determining whether there are enough people to make having a second unofficial server worthwhile, since the vast majority of folks are going to Balmung, including people on Gilgamesh right now.  And that's a lot of cool people.  Also me.

My issue is - none of what anyone else is saying(moderators included) is what the admin is saying. He's made a clear stance that this is a Balmung centric site, and that anybody that disagrees can leave. No suggestions, no opinions, nothing. Discontent is met with a door and that's not fair.

I don't have hopes for the community under that leadership, so I'll be sticking with Gilgamesh despite people leaving the server eventually.

(07-01-2013, 06:00 PM)Momoni Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 05:49 PM)Rhio Wrote: Right.  The real purpose of this vote is determining whether there are enough people to make having a second unofficial server worthwhile, since the vast majority of folks are going to Balmung, including people on Gilgamesh right now.  And that's a lot of cool people.  Also me.

My issue is - none of what anyone else is saying(moderators included) is what the admin is saying. He's made a clear stance that this is a Balmung centric site, and that anybody that disagrees can leave. No suggestions, no opinions, nothing. Discontent is met with a door and that's not fair.

I don't have hopes for the community under that leadership, so I'll be sticking with Gilgamesh despite people leaving the server eventually

(07-01-2013, 06:07 PM)Ryaadi Wrote: First, SE may or may not do an RP dedicated server. Doubtful but they might. As someone that has to stay responsible for my crew and future members, I have a policy of no member left behind so if the server is full, then so be it. We figure where else to go. I also do not know any other servers and their quality, which I don't think Rpers want to be on a server that holds disdain, or there might be a plethora of griefing. I heard reddit will be on Gilgamesh, whether its true or not, that will make folks have a harder time. It can be as bad as a 4chan group.

(07-01-2013, 06:18 PM)Asyria Wrote: So I tried to be nice and welcoming but perhaps being blunt  is what is needed to make things clear.

I see people coming here, making a few agressive posts and passing judgements without even trying to be friendly and say hello.

If I join a comunity, I come in with a friendly smile and try to fit in, not with weapons in hand demanding people bend over for me.

Please folks, for the love of Moogles everywhere, TRY to understand that you're joining a COMMUNITY, and act like such.

(07-01-2013, 06:16 PM)Kossori Wrote: Every server will have its bad apples, can't avoid them in an MMO really.

The only reason I do not want to be a part of the cool-kids-Balmung gang, is simply due to the fact that it is a Legacy server.

I like the idea of ARR being a brand new experience to everyone around me. I like the idea of everyone starting off on even foot and watching the server grow and evolve as time goes on. I like the idea of the economy flourishing from the ground up and server first achievements of any and all kinds being done by people I know were not given the 'headstart' the Legacy gang did.

That's just me though, as someone who avoided the trainwreck that was 1.0.

I like to think of it as a brand new game, and just feel more at ease starting on a server that suggests the same.

I know Legacy servers have benefits, but it's just not for me, I guess.

That's why I was hoping for a solid non-Legacy alternative for roleplaying.

(07-01-2013, 06:00 PM)Momoni Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 05:49 PM)Rhio Wrote: Right.  The real purpose of this vote is determining whether there are enough people to make having a second unofficial server worthwhile, since the vast majority of folks are going to Balmung, including people on Gilgamesh right now.  And that's a lot of cool people.  Also me.

My issue is - none of what anyone else is saying(moderators included) is what the admin is saying. He's made a clear stance that this is a Balmung centric site, and that anybody that disagrees can leave. No suggestions, no opinions, nothing. Discontent is met with a door and that's not fair.

I don't have hopes for the community under that leadership, so I'll be sticking with Gilgamesh despite people leaving the server eventually.

(07-01-2013, 06:30 PM)Olofantur Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 06:16 PM)Kossori Wrote: Every server will have its bad apples, can't avoid them in an MMO really.

The only reason I do not want to be a part of the cool-kids-Balmung gang, is simply due to the fact that it is a Legacy server.

I like the idea of ARR being a brand new experience to everyone around me. I like the idea of everyone starting off on even foot and watching the server grow and evolve as time goes on. I like the idea of the economy flourishing from the ground up and server first achievements of any and all kinds being done by people I know were not given the 'headstart' the Legacy gang did.

That's just me though, as someone who avoided the trainwreck that was 1.0.

I like to think of it as a brand new game, and just feel more at ease starting on a server that suggests the same.

I know Legacy servers have benefits, but it's just not for me, I guess.

That's why I was hoping for a solid non-Legacy alternative for roleplaying.

Just as a note, even the non-legacy servers will have people with characters built up from Phase 4 and the pre-order early access.

I understand the sentiment, but just a cautionary note that new servers have  unstable economies (not that thats always a bad thing) as well as rocky server populations. I myself have used this to my advantage in the past on EQ and WoW, but gaming the economy is not my thing anymore.

I myself will have a Balmung and then one on what ever server my non-RP friends decide to roll on as well.

Either way, best of luck in Eorzea

(07-01-2013, 06:18 PM)Asyria Wrote: So I tried to be nice and welcoming but perhaps being blunt  is what is needed to make things clear.

I see people coming here, making a few agressive posts and passing judgements without even trying to be friendly and say hello.

If I join a comunity, I come in with a friendly smile and try to fit in, not with weapons in hand demanding people bend over for me.

Please folks, for the love of Moogles everywhere, TRY to understand that you're joining a COMMUNITY, and act like such.

(07-01-2013, 06:32 PM)Uther Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 06:00 PM)Momoni Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 05:49 PM)Rhio Wrote: Right.  The real purpose of this vote is determining whether there are enough people to make having a second unofficial server worthwhile, since the vast majority of folks are going to Balmung, including people on Gilgamesh right now.  And that's a lot of cool people.  Also me.

My issue is - none of what anyone else is saying(moderators included) is what the admin is saying. He's made a clear stance that this is a Balmung centric site, and that anybody that disagrees can leave. No suggestions, no opinions, nothing. Discontent is met with a door and that's not fair.

I don't have hopes for the community under that leadership, so I'll be sticking with Gilgamesh despite people leaving the server eventually.

You've been here one day and you're already trying to call out leadership. 

Of course this is a Balmung centric site. The leadership didn't say "we play on Balmung, so everyone has to play on Balmung!" There just happens to be a significant RP population on that server. If you want to RP somewhere else, no one will stop you, but don't be surprised if no one joins you either.

I've had my fair share of complaints with some of the policies and tendencies of this site, but all-in-all they're doing their best, and whenever I complain I do so from a reasonable and educated standpoint. I didn't show up Day 1 and say we need new leadership because there are too many people who want to play together or whatever the hell you're rambling about. 

NO ONE has ever said that you have to play on Balmung. You're looking for enemies where there aren't any. I've read your posts on this thread and the Gilgamesh thread, and it's pretty irritating how obvious it is that you're looking to pick a fight.

I never read anywhere that anyone who doesn't want to play on Balmung has to leave. You need to re-read what Kylin wrote. He said if you don't like the site you can start your own. He also admitted that most of the RP community plays on Balmung, and that's why it's the site's primary focus. That's it. Logically, if everyone was being forced to play on Balmung, why would there be a poll gauging interest of people who specifically do not want to play on Balmung?

What are you talking about?

Sorry for the hostility, but this is really making me mad.

(07-01-2013, 06:30 PM)Olofantur Wrote:

(07-01-2013, 06:16 PM)Kossori Wrote: Every server will have its bad apples, can't avoid them in an MMO really.

The only reason I do not want to be a part of the cool-kids-Balmung gang, is simply due to the fact that it is a Legacy server.

I like the idea of ARR being a brand new experience to everyone around me. I like the idea of everyone starting off on even foot and watching the server grow and evolve as time goes on. I like the idea of the economy flourishing from the ground up and server first achievements of any and all kinds being done by people I know were not given the 'headstart' the Legacy gang did.

That's just me though, as someone who avoided the trainwreck that was 1.0.

I like to think of it as a brand new game, and just feel more at ease starting on a server that suggests the same.

I know Legacy servers have benefits, but it's just not for me, I guess.

That's why I was hoping for a solid non-Legacy alternative for roleplaying.

Just as a note, even the non-legacy servers will have people with characters built up from Phase 4 and the pre-order early access.

I understand the sentiment, but just a cautionary note that new servers have  unstable economies (not that thats always a bad thing) as well as rocky server populations. I myself have used this to my advantage in the past on EQ and WoW, but gaming the economy is not my thing anymore.

I myself will have a Balmung and then one on what ever server my non-RP friends decide to roll on as well.

Either way, best of luck in Eorzea

(07-01-2013, 06:39 PM)DimmerMeerkat Wrote: I will rule you all.

On both servers.