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RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Ellie - 06-17-2013
I think it might be better if the mentees were to choose their mentors, instead of the other way around. (Actually, I think that's mostly how it was intended to work in the first place) Having one person picking up all the mentees just because they're quicker at it isn't exactly fair to the newbies who I feel deserve more one on one attention than a mentor with seven or so mentees can provide.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Magellan - 06-17-2013
(06-17-2013, 02:41 PM)Ellie Wrote: I think it might be better if the mentees were to choose their mentors, instead of the other way around. (Actually, I think that's mostly how it was intended to work in the first place) Having one person picking up all the mentees just because they're quicker at it isn't exactly fair to the newbies who I feel deserve more one on one attention than a mentor with seven or so mentees can provide.
An event in which mentors and mentees meet, intermingle some, joke, laugh, cry, etc., would allow ppl a chance to get to know each other, and make informed decisions on who they think they will work well with. Just my two cents :p
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Uther - 06-17-2013
It's really a matter of who can handle the most. I mean, being faster and grabbing the most students isn't necessarily the right way to go about it (while being hilarious from a third party perspective), but I don't think it's wrong either if Shuck can handle it. As long as he can dedicate the time and patience into working with all of them, why not let him go for it? Some people may be able to put more on their plates than others. I don't necessarily think he should be stealing students from other mentors, but some mentors might have a different teaching method or schedule and will only be able to handle one or two at a time. That being said, I think everyone should at least get one student or it'll turn into Professor Shuck's Roleplaying 101 Class.
But really, if he can handle it, he can handle it. He clearly has the enthusiasm.
On the note about students choosing their mentors. This is valid I suppose, but most people that are new to RP don't really know which direction they want to go in. In my opinion, introducing them to one initially and letting them decide if they want to stick with it or go to another mentor is the way to go about it.
Just some thoughts.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Eva - 06-17-2013
I agree with Ellie. Gerik's edited the OP to post links to each of the mentor's "summary" posts, and those seeking a mentor can kind of peruse them and see who has a similar style, RP's in a similar fashion, or has a character with a similar sort of background. It might be worthwhile to add an even briefer summary (maybe like 6 or 7 words about the mentor that can be added to the link) that sort of summarize the summary, as it were.
But I think it makes a lot more sense for those seeking a mentor to choose for themselves from the pool of available mentors.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Castus Allard - 06-17-2013
Shuck is pure evil, I just wanted everyone else to know this (If you handn't already figured it out). On the other hand, he is one hell of a cook
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Uther - 06-17-2013
(06-17-2013, 03:14 PM)Eva Wrote: It might be worthwhile to add an even briefer summary (maybe like 6 or 7 words about the mentor that can be added to the link) that sort of summarize the summary, as it were.
That's fair. I can agree on that.
I'd like to clarify what I said earlier, also. I didn't mean to imply that every student should be forced into whatever mentor snags them. What I meant was that once they've been snagged there's no binding agreement that says they can't leave and go to another mentor if they don't like the RP style of their current mentor.
I don't have an official mentor though and I'm not seeking one currently, so feel free to ignore everything I sayÂ
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Shuck - 06-17-2013
(06-17-2013, 02:41 PM)Ellie Wrote: I think it might be better if the mentees were to choose their mentors, instead of the other way around. (Actually, I think that's mostly how it was intended to work in the first place) Having one person picking up all the mentees just because they're quicker at it isn't exactly fair to the newbies who I feel deserve more one on one attention than a mentor with seven or so mentees can provide.
What makes you think I've rented out a lecture hall? PM's are pretty one-on-one. Also, the "be faster" bit was obviously a joke. It's absurd humor. See, because that can't possibly be the only determining factor. That's what makes it funny.
Anyway, I just genuinely enjoy answering questions and offering advice. That's why I contacted as many as I did. Is that honestly a problem? If so, please, just let me know.
(06-17-2013, 03:14 PM)Eva Wrote: I agree with Ellie. Gerik's edited the OP to post links to each of the mentor's "summary" posts, and those seeking a mentor can kind of peruse them and see who has a similar style, RP's in a similar fashion, or has a character with a similar sort of background. It might be worthwhile to add an even briefer summary (maybe like 6 or 7 words about the mentor that can be added to the link) that sort of summarize the summary, as it were.
But I think it makes a lot more sense for those seeking a mentor to choose for themselves from the pool of available mentors.
There's some pros to this, sure. But there's a big, glaring con as well:
Picking someone similar to you when it comes to roleplaying sensibilities is dandy for actually playing, but not as great for learning. It doesn't offer a fresh perspective, simply because you'll agree far, far too often. The student, for my experience, just doesn't gain as much from those interactions, and the teacher is never forced to re-evaluate their method or their message, which leads to stagnation.
There's my thoughts on that.
Abodo Wrote:That being said, I think everyone should at least get one student or it'll turn into Professor Shuck's Roleplaying 101 Class.
I don't see a problem with this. (Hint: This is a facetious statement.) So, I say to the other Mentors: Stop letting me run train on you, and grab some of these people who are just sitting here, and have been for a little while, with no one to teach them. Seriously.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Eva - 06-17-2013
(06-17-2013, 04:46 PM)Shuck Wrote:(06-17-2013, 03:14 PM)Eva Wrote: I agree with Ellie. Gerik's edited the OP to post links to each of the mentor's "summary" posts, and those seeking a mentor can kind of peruse them and see who has a similar style, RP's in a similar fashion, or has a character with a similar sort of background. It might be worthwhile to add an even briefer summary (maybe like 6 or 7 words about the mentor that can be added to the link) that sort of summarize the summary, as it were.
But I think it makes a lot more sense for those seeking a mentor to choose for themselves from the pool of available mentors.
There's some pros to this, sure. But there's a big, glaring con as well:
Picking someone similar to you when it comes to roleplaying sensibilities is dandy for actually playing, but not as great for learning. It doesn't offer a fresh perspective, simply because you'll agree far, far too often. The student, for my experience, just doesn't gain as much from those interactions, and the teacher is never forced to re-evaluate their method or their message, which leads to stagnation.
Agree to disagree. I'm still inclined to think that there would be a great deal more constructive feedback from someone who has actually RPed in a similar style or engaged in similar interactions as what the student is looking to do - more specific questions can be answered with greater accuracy based on past experiences in RP by a similar-minded RPer or similar character. There are plenty of alternative perspectives here on the RPC which can be solicited as well. But were I a student at any discipline looking for a mentor, I would want someone who held a similar mindset or similar views and still afforded a wonderful opportunity to learn. So I respectfully disagree with you on this point.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Curtis West - 06-17-2013
Please PM if interested in taking on a new RPer~Â
Right now I am:
-Thinking about my character. Race, look, traits.
-Learning the lore. Clarifications / quick answers would help
-Picking a guild. Or maybe making one. Help?Â
-Trying to figure out the whole RP community thing. If you can introduce me to a few friends, that'd be great.
PM please, I might miss a reply on this thread.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Varus - 06-17-2013
I'd be glad to answer any questions and provide feedback if anyone wanted any!
Also, I sent a PM to you Mechhead!
EDIT: I sent a PM to everyone listed on the first page that didn't have a mentor, just in case they were left in limbo!
EDIT2: Also, the people who I PMed are free to ask OTHER RPers for feedback as well! More opinions and new perspectives can shed some light on things that I don't notice or help you with questions I can't answer!
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Uther - 06-17-2013
I'd like to point out that while I don't have the RP experience or the time to be a full-on mentor, and I'm still learning some things myself, I do feel I have enough know-how when it comes to RP to answer any questions anyone might have. Especially if they don't want to dedicate themselves to a mentor.
I like giving feedback as well.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Hyunseo - 06-18-2013
Hello! I'm looking to make a male Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te as my main character upon release of the game. However, it's very new to me, and the culture and lore of just the Miqo'te species in general is very different from anything I've played, and I feel like if I tried on my own to play out a character as such that I wouldn't be giving the race justice.
Also, FFXIV in general is completely new to me, so I want to make things right and learn as much as I can, but also have a buddy to show me the ropes. I could always use a friend and a mentor. Hopefully I'm not jumping in way above my head? Erm...
I'm not new to RPing, but this whole story is so new that I feel that I need to take some baby steps. I'd also would love help with maybe figuring out what guild would be good for me? I'd really love a guild that would also be centred around roleplaying.
EDIT: Currently, Dhesi'a is on server Gilgamesh.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Azthran - 06-18-2013
Hi, I guess I'm kind of in the same boat as Hyunseo as I also plan to play a male Keepers of the Moon Miqo'te. I've done tribal RP as I played a troll in WoW and I've also done a tiny bit of matriarchal type RP as well but I'm still worried that I wouldn't be able to do the race justice. My other concern is building the character's history as I recall reading that we will be able to re-customize our toons from 1.0 so not entirely sure how to work out that my character is already so experienced (lvl 34 dragoon). All in all I guess I'm just looking for someone to help me dip my toes in the water a bit before I dive right in!
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Imsey - 06-18-2013
I hate being the third 'planning to play a male Keeper of the Moon' post in a row... but yes... I am...
That said, I would really love someone experienced with the game and well versed in the lore to talk to about some of my ideas (utterly new to FFXIV, though I am in the beta... even if it's just causing more questions)... and well, just about going about things like where to post what and such in general. n__n; Â I'm a bit overwhelmed roaming through posts and trying to figure things all out, so PMs would be very lovely.
RE: RPC Mentorship Program - Moonfire - 06-18-2013
(06-17-2013, 05:17 PM)undefined Wrote: Agree to disagree. Â I'm still inclined to think that there would be a great deal more constructive feedback from someone who has actually RPed in a similar style or engaged in similar interactions as what the student is looking to do - more specific questions can be answered with greater accuracy based on past experiences in RP by a similar-minded RPer or similar character. Â There are plenty of alternative perspectives here on the RPC which can be solicited as well. Â But were I a student at any discipline looking for a mentor, I would want someone who held a similar mindset or similar views and still afforded a wonderful opportunity to learn. Â So I respectfully disagree with you on this point.I agree.