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Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Morningstar1337 - 07-11-2016

...before it can be considered retconning? (title limits). By now I'm sure you know that I don't RP in game, part due to unwillingness and part due to server(I'm am attempting 1 or 2 journals, but they can be considered rough drafts and thus also not finalized until I post it here. As well as joining a forum RP here to test myself). As such I feel like my character's details haven't been finalized yet. As such I am interested to know if there is or isn't a "pre-RP" threshold for changing back-story elements before the RP starts, and if it is on a case by case basis?


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Valence - 07-11-2016

Generally for the things that never got exposed into RP in any way with anyone else than yourself, it tends to be fair game and you can do whatever you want (unless you have like, people following/reading your story, it might be confusing for them if you change things midway...).
General rule of thumbs though is that as soon as you start involving people with something, if you start retconning it it's always better to talk about it with them first, to see what can be worked out or not. It can be rather rude to force/impose change on someone's RP when you want to change something about yours. As soon as you start RPing something with RP partners, it stops being a solo endeavour but more of a collective effort.

So in short, it always depends on the people you RP with.


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Knislinge - 07-11-2016

Well, I think it depends on the impact it'll have on other people's RP. If you're changing, say, a pretty big aspect of your character's backstory that hasn't come into play IC yet, I wouldn't call it retconning, because no one you RP with would be impacted by the change.

And, of course, if you point out to people that you're still hammering things out and that you might want to change some stuff in the future, I'm sure they'll be understanding and prepared for potential retcons and changes-of-mind.

It seems to be a case-by-case judgement call sort of thing.


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Shofie - 07-11-2016

If you haven't roleplayed with anyone yet, anything is fair game, really.

Even after you've begun roleplaying, you are free to change your character if you wish. Just be aware the more tied to other characters you become, the more inconsiderate it can become to make unexpected changes without consulting with the other people first.

Again though, you are free to do as you wish with your own character, just be wary of repercussions if you do it, and try to be thoughtful.

It sounds like you aren't engaged with anyone currently, so you should be completely fine, though.


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Kilieit - 07-11-2016

I view character backstories and personalities as being subject to quantum uncertainty...

That is, until that particular fact about them has been "observed" by a third party, it is both the case and not the case.

So, as Shofie says - not a problem whatsoever until you start interacting with people. Knock yourself out.

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RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Parvacake - 07-12-2016

(07-11-2016, 04:02 PM)Kilieit Wrote: I view character backstories and personalities as being subject to quantum uncertainty...

That is, until that particular fact about them has been "observed" by a third party, it is both the case and not the case.

So, as Shofie says - not a problem whatsoever until you start interacting with people. Knock yourself out.

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Pretty much this ^^^^^

I have someone I know who retcons and changes their characters on a pretty constant basis. To a point where I usually don't RP with them because it's too confusing to keep up with anything when there's no prior warning before the character is already something new.

As long as you can avoid a situation like that (though it's a somewhat extreme example) you should be fine Smile


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Nebbs - 07-12-2016

(07-11-2016, 03:51 AM)Valence Wrote: Generally for the things that never got exposed into RP in any way with anyone else than yourself, it tends to be fair game and you can do whatever you want (unless you have like, people following/reading your story, it might be confusing for them if you change things midway...).
General rule of thumbs though is that as soon as you start involving people with something, if you start retconning it it's always better to talk about it with them first, to see what can be worked out or not. It can be rather rude to force/impose change on someone's RP when you want to change something about yours. As soon as you start RPing something with RP partners, it stops being a solo endeavour but more of a collective effort.

So in short, it always depends on the people you RP with.

This. 

Though it can get complicated if you get other retconing the same past differently. Such can occur when someone leaves a group for example.

I'd suggest exploring IC bending of things before retcon.


RE: Is there a mininum theshold for changing details... - Morningstar1337 - 07-13-2016

Thanks for the answers guys. Right noe most of the stuff I'm looking into are just a handful of small details (age mainly)