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RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Edgar - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:37 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Dunno what it is lately with the healers but goddamn. I recently had a healer respond to my berserk macro with a macro of their own dedicated to mocking berserk macros. Is this some sort of holiday I don't know about where all the healers get to be pricks and shirk doing anything associated with healer job roles in this game, DPSing included? RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - McBeefâ„¢ - 08-16-2016 Sounsy what char do you raid on I wanna creep ur fflogs. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Virella - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:44 PM)Faye Wrote:I dealed with a healer grandma once(08-16-2016, 04:43 PM)Virella Wrote: I'm still going to label people to be terrible until I know why. Yeah, if people tell me "sup I got something why I can't play properly" yeah, I ain't going to go "FFS GET BETTER FIX UR SHIT", like man, I got a super shit shoulder, I can't raid due to it. Well serious raid that is. Never again She was the biggest ego tripping dick I've ever seen, couldn't raid for shit, thought she knew it all better due to her age No, you really don't need more healer grannies, trust me RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Faye - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:55 PM)Virella Wrote: I dealed with a healer grandma once This one was a dick too but a granny gave me a mason jar full of juice today irl for walking her dog so idk I'm willing to give grannies a chance they're cute sometimes RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Virella - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 07:12 PM)Faye Wrote:No you don't want to after seeing(08-16-2016, 06:55 PM)Virella Wrote: I dealed with a healer grandma once a homewrecking grandma I wish I was kidding. That guild was special. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - McBeefâ„¢ - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 07:12 PM)Faye Wrote:(08-16-2016, 06:55 PM)Virella Wrote: I dealed with a healer grandma once Faye I don't need to hear about you drinking jars of some grandma's juice. This is a family forum. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Kilieit - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:34 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:(08-16-2016, 03:22 PM)Kilieit Wrote: But that's the hall of the novice. I think we can take it off the table when discussing whether healers should be DPSing in, like, expert roulette or whatever high-level content you like. I just mean, like - the advice in Hall of the Novice is intended to get genuinely new players started. I don't think it's intended to be a rulebook for how to play forever. HotN is just intended to get you through your first ever Sastasha without wiping your group repeatedly, and I was under the impression we were talking about more general roulette situations. I think it's weird to see people on either side using "even HotN says to DPS!" or "HotN says only to DPS when no one is taking any damage at all!" as points to their side when I don't think HotN advice was ever intended to be used in such a context. I wasn't trying to make a statement about my opinion on the topic at hand, hehe. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Kage - 08-16-2016 To be fair, i think Hall of Novice was created to address players' concerns about other players being found to be lacking when they meet them in party content. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - LiadansWhisper - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 12:57 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: Quite literally said nothing about expecting others to play up to your standards. I only said that if you have the know-how, don't be part of the problem by also playing low-effort, even if everyone else in your PUG is. To characterize Tanking cooldowns as not an actual part of the Tanking role in order to justify the idea that DPS is part of the Healer role is just... It's disingenuous at best. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - LiadansWhisper - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 08:26 PM)Kage Wrote: To be fair, i think Hall of Novice was created to address players' concerns about other players being found to be lacking when they meet them in party content. I haven't done it yet, and I really should. I'm very curious as to whether it bears any resemblance to Proving Grounds in WoW. The latter did an absolutely atrocious job of teaching anything to healers. Literally everything you did in Proving Grounds bore no resemblance to how you would heal in a dungeon or raid setting. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - LiadansWhisper - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:55 PM)Virella Wrote: I dealed with a healer grandma once I've seen some awesome healer grannies. And some awesome DPS grannies. And some awesome tanking grannies (and grandpas!). RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - LiadansWhisper - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 06:45 PM)Edgar Wrote: Is this some sort of holiday I don't know about where all the healers get to be pricks and shirk doing anything associated with healer job roles in this game, DPSing included? 6 seconds in is the most accurate depiction of a healer that I've ever seen. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Kilieit - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 08:26 PM)Kage Wrote: To be fair, i think Hall of Novice was created to address players' concerns about other players being found to be lacking when they meet them in party content. I found Hall of the Novice trials to be lacking in general (I think it could use reiterations at 30 and/or 50 when you have some more tools in your toolbox - especially as healer where the 15 sync means it can't teach you about AoE heals, regens, refreshes, cleanses, or aggro dumps, because at that level the classes have a few of those things each, and never the same ones, and the trials have to account for any class in the given role)... so maybe my faith in them is a little lower than most people's anyway. xD RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - LiadansWhisper - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 09:03 PM)Kilieit Wrote: I found Hall of the Novice trials to be lacking in general (I think it could use reiterations at 30 and/or 50 when you have some more tools in your toolbox - especially as healer where the 15 sync means it can't teach you about AoE heals, regens, refreshes, cleanses, or aggro dumps, because at that level the classes have a few of those things each, and never the same ones, and the trials have to account for any class in the given role)... so maybe my faith in them is a little lower than most people's anyway. xD Rather sad to see this, though I'm not entirely surprised. It's difficult for a scripted encounter to really teach players the nuances of their role. RE: If you ask me to stancedance one more fucking time.. - Kage - 08-16-2016 (08-16-2016, 08:42 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:In comparison, I find it fair.(08-16-2016, 12:57 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: Quite literally said nothing about expecting others to play up to your standards. I only said that if you have the know-how, don't be part of the problem by also playing low-effort, even if everyone else in your PUG is. Here's actually being disingenuous. Healers don't need to DPS. Tanks don't need to use defensive cooldowns. Defensive cooldowns are just so tanks don't die in Solo content. If tanks just keep hate on the mobs that's all that matters because all healers need to do is heal them. Nothing hits tanks (who gear correctly) enough to oneshot them if they're pulling groups of mobs one at a time. So if a healer just heals them, tank won't die. Party won't wipe. All good right? It's not like tanks should actually do their best to put a healer at ease too. Maybe tanks don't even need to bother with good positioning for melee, forcing the melee to move closer to the other mobs in the dungeon that are patrolling etc. |