(09-21-2016, 04:22 PM)Aaron Wrote: But like, what if say a group is running a dungeon ICly and one guy goes "Hey, want to see who's the better fighter? Kill that creature before I kill mine."

Granted for controversy, similar ilvls and all both are of the same job (dps/healer/tank)

(09-21-2016, 03:37 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote: If a player claims that their character is a better smith than yours, has specialists in each profession, leveled to maximum, with fully melded gear, and all of the achievements, would you not be more inclined to humor that claim than if they were a level 1 crafter?

(09-21-2016, 03:03 PM)undefined Wrote: As I said before, I don't mind people claiming whatever as long as they can back it up. I've had people claim to be the best combat fighter and then do some weird sprint 20 yards, bounce off a wall, then sprint 20 yards back kind of wrestling rip-off move and armbar someone in the ground. They were using rolls, so of course the attack connected, but I prefer far more realism in my combat. Flashy fights are how you usually get your ass kicked, and I would expect someone that claims to be the top however percent to know that kind of thing. This may sound a tad cynical, but I don't really have that much faith in people these days.

Thank you for your clarification, though! Some of that may have been going on during my time there, but I honestly don't recall when I quit and how long I was around.

(09-21-2016, 04:38 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I think these sorts of things can help but they're fairly situational. WoW's got a lot of wiggle room in that context: There's no specific main character for each expansion and it's widely acknowledged that bands of adventurers are the ones doing the slaying of mostly everyone. I think it's kind of neat for server continuity to have such things.

...that just doesn't lend itself so well to FFXIV. Since we're given a canonical hero who has done everything in the Warrior of Light, it's a lot more tricky to establish these sorts of things. For non-canonical stuff I think it's kind of neat: As someone who PVPed a lot in WoW I took some pride in wearing my gear when it was relevant to RP.

...buuuut that's tricky even in XIV, since PVP is tied directly to adventuring companies established with the Grand Companies. So if you were good at, say, Wolves' Den, it would also mean you're a ranking officer/soldier of some degree in your city-state. As far as the lore is concerned (I think!) the only way into the war games is through the Companies.

(09-21-2016, 04:38 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I think these sorts of things can help but they're fairly situational. WoW's got a lot of wiggle room in that context: There's no specific main character for each expansion and it's widely acknowledged that bands of adventurers are the ones doing the slaying of mostly everyone. I think it's kind of neat for server continuity to have such things.

...that just doesn't lend itself so well to FFXIV. Since we're given a canonical hero who has done everything in the Warrior of Light, it's a lot more tricky to establish these sorts of things. For non-canonical stuff I think it's kind of neat: As someone who PVPed a lot in WoW I took some pride in wearing my gear when it was relevant to RP.

...buuuut that's tricky even in XIV, since PVP is tied directly to adventuring companies established with the Grand Companies. So if you were good at, say, Wolves' Den, it would also mean you're a ranking officer/soldier of some degree in your city-state. As far as the lore is concerned (I think!) the only way into the war games is through the Companies.

(09-21-2016, 04:45 PM)Aaron Wrote: The Feast and PvP iirc in general is just adventurers beating the shot out of each other in glory of their GC or just to beat people up.

(09-21-2016, 04:38 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: ...that just doesn't lend itself so well to FFXIV. Since we're given a canonical hero who has done everything in the Warrior of Light, it's a lot more tricky to establish these sorts of things. 

...buuuut that's tricky even in XIV, since PVP is tied directly to adventuring companies established with the Grand Companies. So if you were good at, say, Wolves' Den, it would also mean you're a ranking officer/soldier of some degree in your city-state. As far as the lore is concerned (I think!) the only way into the war games is through the Companies.

(09-21-2016, 04:48 PM)Renault Delumiere Wrote:

(09-21-2016, 04:38 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: ...that just doesn't lend itself so well to FFXIV. Since we're given a canonical hero who has done everything in the Warrior of Light, it's a lot more tricky to establish these sorts of things. 

...buuuut that's tricky even in XIV, since PVP is tied directly to adventuring companies established with the Grand Companies. So if you were good at, say, Wolves' Den, it would also mean you're a ranking officer/soldier of some degree in your city-state. As far as the lore is concerned (I think!) the only way into the war games is through the Companies.

First, thank you for your reply, as it shed some light on the situation which ultimately led to me seeing and understanding exactly what I was proposing in my OP. It had really skipped my mind that things like: slaying Bahamut Prime, quelling the Illuminati threat within Alexander, and other related content...Is all handled by the WoL canonically. 

In my opinion, I think there is some leeway in terms of Primals, certain dungeons(which don't house major lore characters) and the like, since those beasts are able to be killed over and over. ( Hell, the story of extreme mode primals is just that. The worshipers simply re summoned the primal. )

Second, the arena PVP game modes are not tied to grand company. You are simply given a team (Fangs or Claws), which alternates each game.