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RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Haven's Fox - 10-15-2016
I'd rather have them dump more into the customisation of the characters instead of another race.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Nodem - 10-16-2016
(10-15-2016, 02:53 AM)AlionLucada Wrote: A lot of people seem to think that as soon as they cut off PS3 support the game will drastically improve overnight and every feature people imagine wasn't added because of PS3 players will suddenly appear. More likely is that we may see some nicer QoL changes like larger inventory and more housing.. but not much else.
S-E still has to worry about lower end PCs or they risk losing a big chunk of players, so they're not gonna suddenly ramp things up to 11 like some people believe.
They're raising the minimum specs required for the windows version of FFXIV when Stormblood is released.
I agree with some of the others here... Giving us more customization options would be great. Separating horns from faces for Au Ra please! BUT... I don't think I'd mind if they gave us a new race, long as it was introduced in a good way.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Valence - 10-16-2016
(10-15-2016, 02:07 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote:(10-15-2016, 11:44 AM)Valence Wrote: Problem is not the RAM. RAM is almost irrelevant as long as you can launch the game without exploding your physical memory and not go over using the system swap.Well, I mean, at 256MB system and video you're practically guaranteed to go over-budget unless you take drastic measures to prevent that scenario (and, y'know, this is a modern MMORPG, so I'd bet the PS3 did so on a regular basis). Those measures are (thankfully) no longer necessary. Even integrated graphics these days have a much, much better memory budget even as they pull from system memory to do so.
Problem will always be video memory, which directly contains graphical 2D and 3D drawcall assets. And on low end machines, its... well. Low. Maybe not that low though, which is an improvement. All depends how far they are ready to go with graphic memory usage.
Operating on the assumption of gigabytes being available as opposed to a few hundred megabytes is obviously going to give them some more room to breathe. You would expect that, at least.
At any rate, I refuse to be less optimistic about this scenario. I'm freakin' happy they dropped support for that ancient hardware and absolutely no one can convince that that isn't a very good thing for the game.
I'm certainly impressed they manage to launch a game such as FFXIV with so low memory constraints.
What I mean is that the physical memory problem will be solved and will probably be a big chunk of fresh air to remove all the silly constraints and limits that are so infuriating ingame (inventory room, housing, etc).
But, we have to keep in mind that the lower end graphic cards are still stuck with specs like 512Mb of graphic memory. Granted, it's double the size of the PS3 yeah, but it's... very low compared to today standards, thus why I'm curious to see how high they are willing to go in that direction.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Valence - 10-16-2016
(10-15-2016, 07:19 PM)Steel Wolf Wrote:(10-15-2016, 10:26 AM)Valence Wrote: Before Heavensward came out, lots of new gear for 3.0, and lots of new tier gear for 2.4-2.5 and so on... How is that different?
Maths.
The amount of gear from launch to 3.0/HW is < the amount of gear from launch to 3.0/Hw to 3.x to 4.0/SB.
I don't see how?
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Jin - 10-16-2016
My guess would be a third variant of the hyur race called "New Imperial"
Since Ala Mhigo has been under imperial occupation for over 20 years now, we shouldn't be surprised to see Eorzean born Imperials.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Kage - 10-16-2016
(10-16-2016, 03:50 AM)Valence Wrote:(10-15-2016, 07:19 PM)Steel Wolf Wrote:(10-15-2016, 10:26 AM)Valence Wrote: Before Heavensward came out, lots of new gear for 3.0, and lots of new tier gear for 2.4-2.5 and so on... How is that different?
Maths.
The amount of gear from launch to 3.0/HW is < the amount of gear from launch to 3.0/Hw to 3.x to 4.0/SB.
I don't see how?
Odin had an extra set ish but there wasnt really a Diadem equivalent or (if counting weapons) palace of the dead
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Zyrusticae - 10-16-2016
(10-16-2016, 03:47 AM)Valence Wrote: I'm certainly impressed they manage to launch a game such as FFXIV with so low memory constraints.They are raising the minimum specs, so they probably won't even be supporting 512MB graphic cards (which, by the way, are nearly as old as the PS3 itself at this point). They did note that people should be upgrading to 64-bit hardware, so that's an interesting point and probably indicative of where things are going.
What I mean is that the physical memory problem will be solved and will probably be a big chunk of fresh air to remove all the silly constraints and limits that are so infuriating ingame (inventory room, housing, etc).
But, we have to keep in mind that the lower end graphic cards are still stuck with specs like 512Mb of graphic memory. Granted, it's double the size of the PS3 yeah, but it's... very low compared to today standards, thus why I'm curious to see how high they are willing to go in that direction.
Speaking of video memory, bandwidth is proooobably more important and relevant for FFXIV than simply having a lot of it. There's not a whole lot of reason to have 2GB of memory if the bandwidth is too low to saturate it all. Personally, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to expect players to have hardware that's been released in the past five years (which is a bigger window than the release of the PS4). That's just me, tho. I don't know what the exact specs are going to be yet. Will be interesting to find out when they do release them.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Fusoya2310 - 10-18-2016
Yes definitely happy about PS3 support being dropped. The changes coming won't be extreme, nor will they be quick to come. Things will happen slowly, one of the first things is the change to the battle system which Yoshi did mention, though not how it will be done. Hopefully the limit breaks become personal, as pretty much every MMO everyone has their personal thing, and that's how it was in XI anyway with the two hour. Part of the battle system change is simplifying some things which is definitely for newer/casual players. Of course we'll get the little graphical boost, and quality of life stuff, like more inventory I do know he has so much he wants to do for this game, and I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
As far as new race goes, I don't mind as long as its presented well, and not just boom new race. This of course will make them money as people buy fantasia potions.. Looking at the artwork of the title banner, there's some Hell Boy looking dude off to the right.. He kinda looks like some sort of beastman lol, who knows.. I actually don't really care much for a new race, and would rather like to see more character creation options. Like opening up all of the facial hair, and hairstyles along with new ones, and... Please give the male Highlanders damn eyebrow options.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Raeje - 10-18-2016
Character customization. Lets throw in lots more of that. LOTS.
Races are nice, but ultimately they're all slightly different versions of humans. Slightly. None of them are ever crazy different, like playable moogle races, or anything like that, and to be honest, I don't really expect that from SE.Â
I do, however want to be able to make a raging alcoholic town crier who wasted his life, and is now searching for his of being in the maelstrom at the bottom of an empty bottle, scratching his balding head, while hoping someday he may be able to afford clothes that fit his gargantuan gut.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Suko'to - 10-23-2016
I'd be all for either an Avian type or Aquatic type race, to be honest. I don't know if there's anything notable in the FF world that follows that archetype, but I think it'd be neat to implement.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Skullcrusher - 10-24-2016
Could we not just get beard options for existing races instead? I would like that. Currently, only Roe and Highlanders can have a decent beard and that's on ONE face option. The rest is funny moustaches and awful chin straps.
Please Square, allow us to have beard. It'll be optional, you won't instantly lose your Japanese audience because of it; I swear. Similarly, another large race like Roegadyn would be 100% 0K in my books.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Shofie - 10-24-2016
It's always possible, but I'm suspecting they won't this time around. Au ra are apparently one of the least popular (played) races in the game across all servers, and that's a lot of resources and time to develop something that ultimately people just weren't very excited for.
If they do ever add Viera, I hope we get tall Amazonian-like ladies, and petite-duders, just because it'd be a nice change of pace.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Edda - 10-24-2016
Please no new races. Given how the Au Ra (who are nothing more than dis-proportioned reptilian miqo'te) were handled, or rather... how they weren't handled, why would anyone want this? Zero relevance in their own expansion? What a joke. But then, would the opposite be better - an expansion dedicated to a new race, their lore and lands? Maybe, but not for 4.0. I'd rather the focus be on Ala Mhigo, not some human-looking race with random features tacked onto their models.
Garleans get a free pass though, adding them in as a playable race might actually make some sense depending on how 4.0's story progresses. Not to mention they have the added bonus of already existing and having more than a page's worth of lore. And as much as I like Viera, if they were added to the game their presence would only serve to remind me that there will never be an Ivalice Online, so no thank you.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Valence - 10-25-2016
Please, no non-human race / playable beast tribes. I wish that game to remain as far as possible from WoW.
RE: New race in Stormblood? - Speculation and Discussion - Kilieit - 10-25-2016
They won't do playable beast tribes or similar, because - as I recall from various interview answers on the subject - the JP audience doesn't like it, and because it presents too much difficulty/takes too many resources when preparing gear/hairstyles on a par with the rest of the existing races.
I really don't think WoW should be considered to have the monopoly on distinctive race designs, though.