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[Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kage - 01-17-2017
So if you don't already know, MSQ title given for 3.5 is spoiler-y TURN OFF TITLES AND DON'T EXAMINE PEOPLE IF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT
Please also consider you are visiting a thread labeled and titled for discussion of spoilers.
Also, what do you think about the spoiler-y titles? OK? Not smart? They've been sort of constant since Heavensward was released.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Maril - 01-17-2017
I don't like how big of a spoiler that title is. They should at the very least have put in a pop up warning since a lot of people have titles turned on by default. If it was a situation where most people had to enable titles it would have been more okay, but still in the need of a warning somewhere.Â
I feel sad and I want part two now.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kage - 01-17-2017
I know more than a fair share of people said they had logged in to have the title right in their face. Most likely since most people had logged off where they could start the MSQ right away or so.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Teadrinker - 01-17-2017
The title is super hamfisted.
Also semi reserving this for rant but yeah that title may as well been "Let me run around and spoil the MSQ for the server!"
Though TBH if you didn't see Papa "dying" (and there are some serious airquotes around the word dying) coming then....welp.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kilieit - 01-17-2017
Apparently the JP and FR titles are totally different (haven't heard anything about DE) so it does feel a tiny bit like the EN localisation team just threw all common sense out of the window because the Coil reference was "too good to miss".
No, trust me, you could've missed it. >_> The title comes across, as Teadrinker says, ham-fisted and too much like it's obviously trying to pull on people's heartstrings.
And I agree that "death" should be used with airquotes - I don't feel like we got to know him well enough for them to be killing him off for real already. If a real death comes, I think it'll be later in the expac, after a tearful reunion and some trials-by-fire undertaken together in a trio.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kage - 01-17-2017
It's as if they went "Oh Nidhogg Slayer wasn't enough!" "Of the Silver Fuller (questionable but I know some people got mad)" let's give you -this-
JP title is not as so in your face spoiler.
(01-17-2017, 05:01 PM)Teadrinker Wrote: Though TBH if you didn't see Papa "dying" (and there are some serious airquotes around the word dying) coming then....welp.The death flags were high on it.
I'd say he's dead or we're seeing another Phoenix and I don't think we're going to see that. Moenbryda died and we didn't get to know her nearly at all.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Virella - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 05:09 PM)Kilieit Wrote: Apparently the JP and FR titles are totally different (haven't heard anything about DE) so it does feel a tiny bit like the EN localisation team just threw all common sense out of the window because the Coil reference was "too good to miss".I will check the DE title after this Dun Scaith xD
No, trust me, you could've missed it. >_> The title comes across, as Teadrinker says, ham-fisted and too much like it's obviously trying to pull on people's heartstrings.
And I agree that "death" should be used with airquotes - I don't feel like we got to know him well enough for them to be killing him off for real already. If a real death comes, I think it'll be later in the expac, after a tearful reunion and some trials-by-fire undertaken together in a trio.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Eliane Dufresne - 01-17-2017
The sense I got was that Papalymo was "dead" the way Louisoix was "dead"...and that maybe he'll now be a shade-thing wandering around in the new moon, that we'll eventually have to fight for tears and sads. I think it was Yda who said, "he knows what that spell entails"...so I kind of got the sense it was more/worse than death.
Still, I was pretty impressed with the storyline so far. I'm REALLY interested to see how Garlemald reacts to all this. I felt they communicated the empire's power really well with the spider scene...it helped remind us that they're terrifying, and they're huge for a reason (Garlemald, I mean, but also spiders).
On the topic of hamfistedness... >.< I'm still facepalming that Ishgard both a: apparently feels bad for being isolationist, and B: hasn't even recovered from the Dragonsong War but is now loyally marching off to defend their new best friends. I expected it, and I'm sure they have to do it for gameplay reasons, but oy.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Virella - 01-17-2017
I'm so over Ishgard completely due to this writing. I'm 90% sure Ala Mhigo is going to end up the same. But at least we still get to be extremist assholes for a while.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kellach Woods - 01-17-2017
Scholasticate was a giant fucking waste of time filled with fucking plot holes.
Whoever wrote that needs to SERIOUSLY reconsider doing that kind of questline for Stormblood. We learn absolutely nothing that couldn't have been done in a cutscene with Ser Aylmao, it makes the WoL look like a complete fucking chump because you can see whodunnit the SECOND he flashes that fucking smile and it takes Briardien swooping in at the last fucking minute to expose the culprit.
And more importantly: IT'S SPOILED IN THE FUCKING QUEST TITLE.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Virella - 01-17-2017
FUCK IF I KNOW BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GERMAN TITLE IS????
Also...
http://de.xivdb.com/title/340/der+meistersch%C3%BCler
Seems English version basically got the spoiler lols, rest not so much GOOD JOB SE
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Teadrinker - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 06:43 PM)Virella Wrote: I'm so over Ishgard completely due to this writing. I'm 90% sure Ala Mhigo is going to end up the same. But at least we still get to be extremist assholes for a while.
I just don't see how they're going to resolve this in a satisfactory way. You guys summon a primal and kill a Scion, impersonate Grand Comapnies to start a war but NO WORRIES GUYS WELCOME TO THE ALLIANCE.
I'm already cringing at Stormblood tbh they wrote themselves into a hole and SE really doesn't have a track record of resolving conflict on a satisfactory level. I expect everyone to just have meeting in "Contrived Land" where they all get the hell over it and make the Eorzean Alliance great again.
.....
Yeah, so I don't like the MSQ lol.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Warren Castille - 01-17-2017
So way prior to Heavensward even being announced, I was involved in some RP arcs that revolved around some people utilizing dragon eyes to gain power that ultimately was corrupt as all hell.
Before Heavensward launched I was involved in an RP arc revolving around someone with a grudge against Eorzea instigating false-flag attacks on Garlemald holdings with people wearing fake GC uniforms, hoping to kickstart the war effort.
Guys I'm afraid to RP things now.
MSQ punched me right in the feels. From Answers creeping in to Papa having the same expression as the light took him, the whole thing was like being dropping right back into the debut of the ARR trailer. There may or may not have been someone chopping onions in the house at the time.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Kellach Woods - 01-17-2017
Griffin's voice actor is terrible.
"I'll tear you limb from limb."
repeat ad nauseum.
(01-17-2017, 10:00 PM)Teadrinker Wrote: I just don't see how they're going to resolve this in a satisfactory way. You guys summon a primal and kill a Scion, impersonate Grand Comapnies to start a war but NO WORRIES GUYS WELCOME TO THE ALLIANCE.
Already, why nobody just slaughtered the bastards is beyond me. Especially Gridania, who are known to be racist bastards AND have a genuine reason to do so (didn't Mhigo attack like 50-100 years prior?) Shit I might cheer for the garleans now!
Also, EORZEANS ATTACKED A FUCKING CASTRUM IN ARR, COCKBLOCKED THE EMPEROR IN HW AND NOW, JUST FUCKING NOW GARLEMALD THINKS "HM MAYBE WE LET THEM LIVE TOO LONG!?"
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - Virella - 01-17-2017
Hey guys, it's probably not Rhalgr even if the English version wants to make us believe it.
Have shitty Google Translate translations because I'm lazy
German
Ilberd: With the cry of those whom no one will hear! With the longing of those who do not fear death! With our despair and our abysmal hatred for Garlear, I call a new God! A God who does not need begging prayers!
Papalymo: A God who does not need prayers?
Alphinaud: You want to fight the Garlear with a Primae? Do not be a fool, Ilberd! You know you'll pay dearly for it!
Ilberd: Not with "one" Primae ... With an Urgewalt, stronger than all Primae! Stronger than the power of the black monster which evoked the all-devouring catastrophe!
Fighter of the Grinding Stream: How could we be so foolish? Nobody ... defeat the Garlear ...
Fighter of the Grinding Stream: No Power ... from this World ...
Papalymo: The incantation is complete ... The Primae or whatever will appear at any moment ...
French
Ilberd: If a human can not resist the power of these Eyes, then I am ready to turn myself into a monster to enjoy their power! Let them shred my flesh, let them drink of my blood, and devour my bruised heart.
Alphinaud: What do you intend to do !?
Ilberd: The heartbreaking lament of despair ... Hatred towards the Empire ... The desire for power ... These pure feelings and fervent supplications before the certainty of death will allow me to call A new god freed from all dogma!
Papalymo: A new god ... freed from all dogma !?
Alphinaud: Do not be stupid, Ilberd! You know very well that you will never be able to overcome the Empire even with the power of a Primordial!
Ilberd: That's right ... And that's why I have to invoke a Primordial even more powerful than the great dragon that caused the seventh plague!
And Sounsyy talked with someone who told them that they speak of this in Japanese "a new god that is not based in faith"