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RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-01-2017
(07-31-2017, 11:47 PM)Nako Vesh Wrote:(07-31-2017, 07:22 AM)Kaiverta Wrote: It's not difficult for me to play female characters - I just have less of an interest in them than I do in male characters, and I'm very comfortably female OOCly.
I didn't mean to imply that you found it difficult, but there were several people in the thread saying that playing a different gender than their own was too daunting. I just wanted to drive home that more than anything, this is usually just a mental block. All you have to do is create a character!
Ah yep, no problem.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-01-2017
(08-01-2017, 02:24 AM)Kismet Wrote: While no one's ever had a problem with me doing it personally, I have had friends who were outcast or mocked for playing chars of another gender. In my experiences, anyone who finds themselves so heavily concerned with the IRL gender of a character's player is typically either one of two things:
- Guilty of blending the line between IC & OOC and should, frankly, be avoided.
- They could be someone who is offended by how a gender is being portrayed -- namely, in an extremely negative and/or stereotypical light.
The second is a potentially legitimate concern, provided the offender in question is actually doing something with their RP that blatantly shames or fetishizes a gender they're not. I find that this is a VERY rare circumstance, however. More often than not, they're just blending, and I highly suggest ignoring anyone who does.
They actually outcast and mocked your friends? Wow, that's so bad. :/ People are horrible.
What do you mean by 'blending'?
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Mermaid - 08-01-2017
(08-01-2017, 03:23 AM)Kaiverta Wrote: What do you mean by 'blending'?
To put it simply, those who are 'blending' are having difficulty separating IC from OOC. Their character is getting close to your character? They think they're getting close to you. Their character falls in love with yours? They think they're in love with you.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-01-2017
(08-01-2017, 04:44 AM)Mermaid Wrote:(08-01-2017, 03:23 AM)Kaiverta Wrote: What do you mean by 'blending'?
To put it simply, those who are 'blending' are having difficulty separating IC from OOC. Their character is getting close to your character? They think they're getting close to you. Their character falls in love with yours? They think they're in love with you.
Ohh yep, I know about that. I just wasn't sure of the term.
Well, here's hoping all that sort of behaviour is in the past. I think it's more likely to happen with/from younger players (teens) than old. I certainly haven't experienced any crazies like that in the last several years. Definitely when I was younger, though. Bleh.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Menord - 08-01-2017
I mostly play male characters nowadays, though I'm not actually sure why. In some other games, I choose male characters to avoid skimpy clothing, but FFXIV is thankfully more consistent with how gear looks between different genders.
When I was younger, some of my character concepts were based on the (probably) silly idea that changing the gender of a stereotype makes it less cliché and more interesting. For example, I had a character who was pretty much the usual "damsel in distress" (insecure, naive, kind, prone to worrying and physically weak) except that the character was male. It feels strange to think in hindsight that I used to claim that characters' gender didn't matter... while still subconsciously believing that insecure and vulnerable men and badass women were more interesting than their other gender counterparts. >.>'
I suppose aesthetics play a large part in my character creation. I like the way male Midlanders look, so my main is one, but I feel both his gender and my own gender are largely irrelevant in my interactions online. I've received some flak and questions in the past when people have found out that my gender doesn't correspond to my character's gender, so nowadays I don't tend to mention it unless I am friends with the other person or the person is having gross misconceptions.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Skye Noctis - 08-04-2017
I used to RP male characters, but then it turns out many times that I am simply not good at it.
 My guys seemed a bit too emotional for a male's perspective. So from that point,  I went to RP females only. The only reason is that I can empathise with my own gender most, creating memorable stories and situations with different characters such as in stern environments or lesbian romance. At the end it did involve realistic intentions. Thanks to my other friend whos a lesbian in real life, her thoughts and advice made up RP that is completely different from when men RP female gay characters. It is a completely different world, I tell ya!
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-04-2017
(08-04-2017, 06:50 AM)Skye Noctis Wrote: I used to RP male characters, but then it turns out many times that I am simply not good at it.That's very interesting! O.o... Do you think it's more that guys who play lesbian female characters do it more for OOC purposes, like are the characters more smutty - or what did you notice the differences were?
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - SicketySix - 08-04-2017
There's a difference though (I may be biased) between men who RP a female who happens to be a lesbian, then a male who plays a female just to be lesbian?
I'll use my own personal example: I play Savona Drake, technically a bi-sexual female, who I will admit, can be rather smutty at times. Granted all my characters are, even the males. But you won't catch her out sleeping with anything that walks. That being said, she's open to either genders, but so far all that has really shown interest in her are female characters. Had they been male would of made no difference. On the other hand, you see males playing females just to be lesbian and fulfill some fantasy/fetish with it and seldom partake in any RP that does not center around it.
Long story short, please don't lump all of us males roleplaying as lesbian females into one basket. We are not all out to get just the fantasy from it. We are character first, orientation second.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-04-2017
(08-04-2017, 10:15 AM)SicketySix Wrote: Long story short, please don't lump all of us males roleplaying as lesbian females into one basket. We are not all out to get just the fantasy from it. We are character first, orientation second.
Sorry, Six. Of course I didn't mean to insinuate that every male played like that. I should have put in a 'some' there somewhere.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - SicketySix - 08-04-2017
(08-04-2017, 10:44 AM)Kaiverta Wrote:(08-04-2017, 10:15 AM)SicketySix Wrote: Long story short, please don't lump all of us males roleplaying as lesbian females into one basket. We are not all out to get just the fantasy from it. We are character first, orientation second.
Sorry, Six. Of course I didn't mean to insinuate that every male played like that. I should have put in a 'some' there somewhere.
That was more of a "in general" reply, not directly linked to anything you specifically said, so you are all good!
Besides, I've choosen to RP a character type that does have a stigma about them, so it would be hard for me to be offended when fantasy thrills is the majority if the reason males RP as lesbians. So I expect it now and then
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Six - 08-05-2017
I mostly stick to RPing female characters which happen to match my gender, but I've RPed male characters and ones where their gender isn't clear to most people I've RPed with. I think most of my deal is that I really like drawing ladies. I've never really had problems RPing the opposite gender believably - maybe it's because I don't go for hyper-masculine characters or maybe I have a gender neutral way of typing. lolidk
Anecdotally, I've found that I don't really get too many creeps trying to fish for ERP or ship RP that they think applies OOCly too. I don't know if it's because my characters tend to be boring or not conventionally attractive but I'm happy to be free of the horror stories many people have.
Along with everyone else I don't really care who RPs what. I ain't gonna yell at people for what they do in their free time. Honestly, it annoys me more when people don't own their stuff. If you find girl on girl/guy on guy hot, that's fine. Be respectful in your portrayals and if you're gonna ERP all day just don't make me bear witness with my unconsenting eyes. >:C
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Skye Noctis - 08-05-2017
(08-04-2017, 09:57 AM)Kaiverta Wrote: [quote pid=301661 dateline=1501843829]
That's very interesting! O.o... Do you think it's more that guys who play lesbian female characters do it more for OOC purposes, like are the characters more smutty - or what did you notice the differences were?
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From what I have experienced, I can always tell if it is a male player because of their RP body language and what they intend in terms of developing a relationship. Men tend to RP lesbians a lot smuttier and are very flirtatious (not generalising! Just from the demographics I have experienced! I have encountered men who RP lesbians a lot less than that but the numbers are very few).Â
Meanwhile, a female playing a lesbian character almost always wants to develop a platonic relationship. And later escalate to a "sisterhood" kind of relationship which later develops in to romantic. Lesbian characters who are played by females almost always focus on the emotional side of the relationship, being smutty is just a cherry on top.
In the meanwhile, finding a female player who RPs a lesbian is such a rarity It's better to be done with your friends for such RP encounters.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Jean L - 08-08-2017
im a gay girl irl so why not play a gay guy in game?
I always have played male characters, dunno why, I just like to go opposite of myself kind of? In the 10+ years I've been rping I've mostly RPed as men.
Of course I play some girls too, but mostly I just play men.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Dwassyith Swanra - 08-08-2017
I'm a girl IRL but I tend to RP only men since years by now.
 More specifically, I like to get into the role of a muscular, stubborn and dominant type - with my Mi'qote I'm definitely going for the aggressive and brawny nunh type, even though the origins of my character are very detached from typical mi'qote tribal culture.
A background that I'm not going to mention because it's unrelated to this thread's main topic, but anyway!
I defininely love RPing men. I can relate to their mentality a lot and I absolutely find it entertaining to portray testosterone and pride, with all of its negative implications.
Nevermind the fact that I find men generally more visually appealing to have on my screen all the time, I'm actually very into the psychological aspect of it all. I think I understand men fairly well, the way they work, what brings them to say/do certain things and to "re-create them" into RP is a huge source of entertainment.
It takes me far away from who I am IRL, it forces me to 'swap' my brain for another, to revolution my personality and my way of thinking, and that is as challenging as it is intriguing.Â
Women can be fun and everything, but it bores me to death to play one. I really don't find it stimulating, more often than not it feels like a lukewarm waste of time and I don't even know why. Maybe because I'm already one and it just feels like a repeat of what it already is, more or less? I don't know.
I just know that I love my IC men, with all their perks and flaws, just as long as their psychology-structure stays realistic and deep, I'm always happy.
I also find that men played by women tend to turn out extremely interesting, they have an 'added flavour' sometimes that I can't quite explain. More often than not, they are very motley personality-wise, very intriguing.
It happened several times that one of my characters got into a gay romance with a male played by another girl, and the quality of the writing, of the feelings and everything that orbited around it was pretty much excellent. Not once have I thought that they didn't pull off a man exceedingly well. (Yes, I'm one of those 'females playing men-loving men'!
Although my guys tend to be always bisexual, just with a light penchant towards their own gender.)But, ah, that's beside the point.
RE: Your Gender vs. Your Character's - Kaiverta - 08-08-2017
(08-08-2017, 04:52 AM)Emerald Wrote: I'm a girl IRL but I tend to RP only men since years by now.That's great. What a wonderful answer to read. And actually, I'm the same with all of that EXCEPT - my guys are always straight. Nothing wrong with bisexual or any of that, it's just how I play them.
More specifically, I like to get into the role of a muscular, stubborn and dominant type - with my Mi'qote I'm definitely going for the aggressive and brawny nunh type, even though the origins of my character are very detached from typical mi'qote tribal culture.
A background that I'm not going to mention because it's unrelated to this thread's main topic, but anyway!
I defininely love RPing men. I can relate to their mentality a lot and I absolutely find it entertaining to portray testosterone and pride, with all of its negative implications.
Nevermind the fact that I find men generally more visually appealing to have on my screen all the time, I'm actually very into the psychological aspect of it all. I think I understand men fairly well, the way they work, what brings them to say/do certain things and to "re-create them" into RP is a huge source of entertainment.
It takes me far away from who I am IRL, it forces me to 'swap' my brain for another, to revolution my personality and my way of thinking, and that is as challenging as it is intriguing.Â
Women can be fun and everything, but it bores me to death to play one. I really don't find it stimulating, more often than not it feels like a lukewarm waste of time and I don't even know why. Maybe because I'm already one and it just feels like a repeat of what it already is, more or less? I don't know.
I just know that I love my IC men, with all their perks and flaws, just as long as their psychology-structure stays realistic and deep, I'm always happy.
I also find that men played by women tend to turn out extremely interesting, they have an 'added flavour' sometimes that I can't quite explain. More often than not, they are very motley personality-wise, very intriguing.
It happened several times that one of my characters got into a gay romance with a male played by another girl, and the quality of the writing, of the feelings and everything that orbited around it was pretty much excellent. Not once have I thought that they didn't pull off a man exceedingly well. (Yes, I'm one of those 'females playing men-loving men'!
But, ah, that's beside the point.
But yeah - women for me are terribly boring to play. I'm not inspired to create female characters as I am to create male ones, and they don't hold my interest. I love READING a well-written female character, played by a man or woman (doesn't matter to me), but just... no interest to do it, myself. xD