(08-05-2013, 08:05 PM)Sylas Wrote: There's also a hefty dose of amusement that stems from Amaare trying to lead a community. Yes, some of us remember your actions in GW2 on Tarnished Coast. That's neither here nor there, though.

(08-05-2013, 07:23 PM)ArmachiA Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 06:22 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 06:03 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but Gilgamesh should be aware of the risks with rolling on the same server as 2/3rds of the internet trolls and not handwave it off as "Oh it's just the internet"

I hope people trying to carve out a path are prepared for the worst, even if the worst never happens

Thanks for your concern. Those who are terrified listen to this man he knows what he is talking about. 

Those who aren't see you on Gilgamesh.

I simply won't run or be scared of some jerk behind a screen. Nope won't do it.

See you in game and be sure to check out the beta week and launch week events!

1. I'm female.

2. I'm not afraid. I've ran with this people, I've done what these people do. I know what they are capable of and it's not an issue of being afraid, it's an issue of being constantly interrupted from what you like to do. Hell, come Vampire: The Masquerade I'm rolling with them again, but as I want to roleplay I will not be on the same server as them.. because I know what they do. No one wants their in game character name stolen - but it happened. No one wants their guild name stolen - but it happened. No one wants to have flying penis's interrupt their interview - but it's happened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RedLyae4b2s), no one wants a bunch of trolls to take over their entire game - but it happened (EvE). This is what they DO and it's a very real concern, not one you can hand wave off as fear.

Saying that it's fear waves me off as a concern troll and it's like I'm being talked down to quite frankly ("YOUR Afriad, but WE AIN'T AFRAID, you SCAREDY CAT")

Edit: And, just so we're clear, I'm not someone who has ever said "Just roll on Balmung." I've always been on the side of new people, I've yelled at people who aren't on the side of new people, on here and on the Beta forums. I've tried to explain why people might not be comfortable rolling on Balmung over and over again.

(08-05-2013, 08:10 PM)ArmachiA Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 08:05 PM)Sylas Wrote: There's also a hefty dose of amusement that stems from Amaare trying to lead a community. Yes, some of us remember your actions in GW2 on Tarnished Coast. That's neither here nor there, though.

oh come on, that's very here AND there XD

DO TELL

(08-05-2013, 08:05 PM)Sylas Wrote: I just want to point out the irony of being afraid of negative-cliques and exclusive behavior from the Balmung community when the moderators of this forum and the (more or less) leaders of the Legacy RP community were kind enough to help out people that don't want to play on a Legacy server in some way.

They could have told everyone to bug off and start your own community for a different, non-legacy server, as this site has been about the Balmung/Besaid community since 1.0. Instead? They helped people out by holding voting and putting up a section of the forums for Gilgamesh to chat and hang out. 

This is totally cliqueish and exclusive behavior. Totally.

Let's not ignore the fact that any real benefits from Legacy will be null and void within 3-4 weeks anyway, on average.

Sorry if I seem a little irritated about this. It's just incredibly rude, to me, to see people accuse (and yes, simply stating your fears is akin to accusing) this community of being full of cliques and hard to break into when the people on this site have been nothing but welcoming and helpful. They worked hard to create a great community throughout 1.0 and to see people so flippantly disregard that, while also using that community's website, is insulting. They deserve your thanks, not your arguments about not wanting to be a part of this community.

There's also a hefty dose of amusement that stems from Amaare trying to lead a community. Yes, some of us remember your actions in GW2 on Tarnished Coast. That's neither here nor there, though.

(08-05-2013, 08:22 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: It does suck when there is a split, but ultimately people gotta do what they think is best for themselves and if they believe that splitting from Balmung is a way to make them feel happy in a game, then I support them.

I also pray for them and their server choice, however..

(08-05-2013, 08:24 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 08:05 PM)Sylas Wrote: I just want to point out the irony of being afraid of negative-cliques and exclusive behavior from the Balmung community when the moderators of this forum and the (more or less) leaders of the Legacy RP community were kind enough to help out people that don't want to play on a Legacy server in some way.

They could have told everyone to bug off and start your own community for a different, non-legacy server, as this site has been about the Balmung/Besaid community since 1.0. Instead? They helped people out by holding voting and putting up a section of the forums for Gilgamesh to chat and hang out. 

This is totally cliqueish and exclusive behavior. Totally.

Let's not ignore the fact that any real benefits from Legacy will be null and void within 3-4 weeks anyway, on average.

Sorry if I seem a little irritated about this. It's just incredibly rude, to me, to see people accuse (and yes, simply stating your fears is akin to accusing) this community of being full of cliques and hard to break into when the people on this site have been nothing but welcoming and helpful. They worked hard to create a great community throughout 1.0 and to see people so flippantly disregard that, while also using that community's website, is insulting. They deserve your thanks, not your arguments about not wanting to be a part of this community.

There's also a hefty dose of amusement that stems from Amaare trying to lead a community. Yes, some of us remember your actions in GW2 on Tarnished Coast. That's neither here nor there, though.

Sorry but The only thing I lead there was my own guild and at one time being one of the leaders of the tavern guild I lead.

I've also stated that I'm not the leader of anything many times. So please do tell.

(08-05-2013, 08:49 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: The thing that both bugs and disappoints me about the split is that new players come here and see this divide and it gives the impression to some that they'll somehow be excluded if they join Balmung, or I've even seen where some people were under the impression they couldn't even join Balmung unless they were legacy.

While I think it's noble that the people who run RPC wanted to make the Gilgamesh community feel at home here, I personally feel more steps should have been taken to squash the schism towards Balmung than to advocate a second server. As far as I've seen RPC has always welcomed people to join who played outside of Balmung, but it was always the home of the Balmung community. I think in order to keep the community as tight and unified as it was, they should have stuck to their guns and told people who wanted to play on a non-legacy server they were more than welcome to but RPC will always be about Balmung.

Maybe things will die down once the game goes live, but right now it feels like having two servers is becoming slightly detrimental.

(08-05-2013, 09:01 PM)Annaveil Wrote: it seems more like a competition between servers to win people over than anything else.