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Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Trizzip - 08-18-2010
Yar, I'm overall happy with the end result. For the most part, it looks like we already brought a good bit of realization to their eyes.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Asyria - 08-18-2010
I'm certainly happy.
I MUCH prefer to see "I'm not going to roll on their server because I don't enjoy their presence" than seeing "I'm going to roll on their server just to grief and troll them" as was the case in WoW even though there were official dedicated RP servers there.
From my experience roleplaying in Champions Online, I think we should be fine, especially since we have taken steps that the CORP didn't back then, in showing our nice smiling face to the rest of the community.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Gavin - 08-18-2010
Hmm, I think role playing is dangerous. I heard about people being kidnapped and forced to create a back story. Scary stuff!
All nonsense aside, I have never role played. But in ANY game I played, whenever I saw open role playing it just enhanced the experience for me. Especially when it was well done. It's because I enjoyed those observing those little moments why I decided to try and give role playing a chance this time around.
SO if the worst that will happen is people who hate role players decide to role a different server, that just sounds like a win/win situation.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Seraphine Felstar - 08-18-2010
The first time I saw people roleplay in FFXI was when I was about level 10 running through the Ronfaure. There was a hume girl and guy sitting by the river talking about how his backstory. I remember thinking it was a bit like watching a movie and I actually sat down some distance from them and read the entire thing XD
Note: Sometimes WoW trade chat makes me lose my faith in humanity
I'd say that was a definite step in the right direction for the RPC and overall I'm happy with the results.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Tyriont - 08-19-2010
Asyria Wrote:People who are always IC don't give us a bad name either. Those who do are the public ERPers.
When you think about it, NPC's are always IC. Just look at Baderon and his pirate talk. Even the non-RPers think its cool that he talks like a pirate. Why would that be different if it was someone's character talking like that? No reason at all.
They do when they're the ones who insist on going "I've not heard of this 'weapon skill' of which you speak" or insist on writing macros which throw "Altana deliver us!" in party chat every time they hit cure (both examples I've personally witnessed). It's those types that people mostly complain about - and the problem is, since most of us are respectful of those who don't wish to be involved in RP and don't force it upon them, that type of player is the one they have most experience with - leading them to assume we're all like that.
I think we can all agree that especially once you hit endgame in an MMO, RP can get in the way of accomplishing certain events. I think back to the CoP static I was a part of in FFXI, which contained several current RPC members. We were in character for the most part, but we certainly dropped out to discuss strategy and focus on the fights, especially once we approached the end of the storyline. There are people out there who refuse to do even that much and a number of the commenters (several of which seem to have revised their opinion, so kudos there) seem to have the belief that all RPers do that. Again, it's because that tends to be the type they've had most exposure to.
Fortunately things like this interview, the incorporation of the RPC podcast into a setting with a larger audience and various other initiatives undertaken by RPC members give us a golden opportunity to change that viewpoint.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Asyria - 08-19-2010
Oh I agree then.
Though macros on spells are kinda cool, they get old very fast.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Kashemia - 08-19-2010
I think one thing that is important for roleplayers to realize is, that there's a difference between playing in an official rp server and an unofficial rp server. In games where there is designated rp servers, you can expect people to rp, or at least expect them to expect you to be, so going "I don't know what this swordskill you talk about is" in /say on an official rp server is ok in my book.
On an unofficial rp server however, we can't expect that people are there to rp. We have to realize that we're just a small part of the server, and that you might have to tone down your IC time a bit. I think it's extremely important to be flexible and not just stand on your right to rp in every situation. As Tyriont wrote, there will be cases where roleplaying can slow you down, or get in the way of prgress, and while it can be fine in a guildrun where you might focus on a story, if you group with non-roleplayers, it's just as unpolite to force the roleplay on them, as it is to disrupt roleplay events.
I'm not saying anyone here does that, it's just to discuss some general ideas of behaviour in the community, that might help people get along better ^^
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Asyria - 08-19-2010
That's exactly what I said in the Zam Article thread over there on Zam. ^^
Maybe some of them were annoyed by RPer on a -RP Server- in WoW, but they can only blame themselves for rolling there if they're annoyed by it. Things like that are what cause problems between RPers and non-RPers. Idiots roll on a RP server and get annoyed that people RP.
That's why I prefer not having dedicated RP servers. The RP community is much stronger because it needs to be, and we all have to be more mindful of each other. I think it makes for a more pleasant gaming experience all over.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Kashemia - 08-19-2010
Yeah, I agree with you on that, Asyria. Roleplayers are more used to being the minority, so I think we can handle unofficial rp servers ^^
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Tadir - 08-19-2010
I'm sure we'll be fine. I wish they would give us the ability to make chat channels though. It'd be nice to have a global rp channel.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Kadika - 08-19-2010
;D i just hope we have the server chosen on the first day, so i know where to make my char once i've finished spending hours and hours updating.
i did alot of rp in age of conan on the Hyrkania server, was really nice being a part of that. No-one was shy about rping in open chat there because everyone was doing it. i hope to see that kind of comfortable rp on FFXIV.
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Kylin - 08-19-2010
Well, we officially breached two pages on the discussion thread there (over 50 replies) as well as over 1,000 views. And we managed to recruit at least 1-2 more RPers from it while making others learn something new about us. Overall, a huge success! High fives for everyone!
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Seraphine Felstar - 08-19-2010
Quote:Well, we officially breached two pages on the discussion thread there (over 50 replies) as well as over 1,000 views. And we managed to recruit at least 1-2 more RPers from it while making others learn something new about us. Overall, a huge success! High fives for everyone!
Question is - was it enough so that Zam would consider coverage on the RPC in the future? 50 posts is nice but was it enough to impress them? ^^;
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Averis - 08-21-2010
Eh, I've been on the receiving end of stereotypes for role-playing. All it does, though, is make me feel happy and closer to our little group/community. It's nice to know you have people that think like you and share the same views you do. Even when we argue among ourselves, at the end of the day we can say, "we're role-players".
*group hug* Â
Re: Zam's Article on the RPC - Len - 08-21-2010
Wow , I never knew that RP'ers were hated this much
I am still in shock
Well more like misunderstood than hated
But at least we know the RP Haters won't invade our server hopefully....
Hope we get more articles and stuff in the future the world must know the joy of RP or at least respect it enough not to ruin it