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RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Edgar - 09-30-2014
It's hard to say Edgar has any really unfair bias, but I think his view towards the Primals and their relation to Beast Tribes counts, if only for so long.
Ed has seen firsthand the destruction the Primal's have wrought in their wake. The straw that broke the horsebird's back for him was Garuda, who was not only uninterested in tempering or protecting her Ixal tribe, but was a bloodthirsty, power-hungry sadist who delighted in slaughter.
In other words, in the debate between Y'shtola and Merlwyb, Ed would take Merlwyb's side in a heartbeat. In his own words:
"I don't care if we struck first. If the Beast Tribe in question's response is to abandon parley and summon forth a monster that wishes to do naught but inflict harm upon countless innocents, without care for those who had nothing to do with the perceived threat who are caught in the crossfire, sparing few if only to temper them into eternal servitude, then we are the bleeding humanitarians in comparison! I cannot feel empathy towards a tribe of savages whose idea of recourse is genocide!"
However, Edgar has ICly met with Novv and his clutch in the Sapsa Spawning Grounds, and is slowly beginning to understand he is generalizing just as much as any thrall of Leviathan.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Kage - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 02:55 PM)C Wrote:... Wow.(09-30-2014, 02:39 PM)Kage Wrote:Osric Melkire, The Syndicate, Tylwyth Narah and a written charter declaring immunity to search and seizure in Thanalan is what happened.Â(09-30-2014, 02:34 PM)C Wrote: C'kayah is very fond of Coatleque. She's taken him from merely well off all the way to obscenely wealthy in one fell swoop!ÂWhat. What happened
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Coatleque - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 02:55 PM)Ckayah Tia Wrote: Osric Melkire, The Syndicate, Tylwyth Narah and a written charter declaring immunity to search and seizure in Thanalan is what happened.Â
Wait what? All Coatleque did was get him a license to resume trade in Thanalan. Nothing about immunity to inspection!
Oscric, wut u do? Stahp it!
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Val - 09-30-2014
Val dislikes the rich, mostly because he's used to them looking down on him or seeing him at face value and expecting him to be worthless. In fact, when he first met his lady, he told her she was a stuck up Princess (thus the nickname) and ignorant for judging him before she knew him.
Melfice judges everyone and dislikes most people. He hates physical contact. The only people he doesn't judge are those that share an intellect with him.
Cyrus judges and is biased against no one. My sweet, summer child.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Seriphyn - 09-30-2014
Oh, Otto, I wasn't going to say it! OOC, I dislike the anime influences many characters seem to have. Miqo'te Males are the most egregious examples of having this, followed by Midlander Males (BOTH OF YOU STOP WEARING THOSE SNOW COATS!) My main character's influence is Vernon Roche from Witcher 2; a very realistic and gritty -Western- RPG, go figure. It's just two RP worlds, so really, it's a matter of personal taste. After all, we -are- roleplaying in a Japanese universe...
However, IC, I've contrived of a totally different reason as to why Kale does not like Miqo'te, particularly men. From the NPC demographics of Ul'dah, it's very clear that Miqo'te are not part of the ordinary citizenry. He believes that Miqo'te society (his opinion mostly shaped by Seekers since this is Thanalan) is highly misogynistic and morally questionable, and borderline animalistic where one man bangs fifty women. He sees their habits as completely unwelcome in the civilized walls of a city-state. Even 'city Miqo'te' (which there isn't any NPC evidence for in Ul'dah, meaning it would be a rarity) he perceives as 'tribals trying to dress up like a city person and merely imitating'. Even worse, is when male Miqo'te hit on Hyuran women. That pisses him off especially. He gives female Miqo'te a bit more berth, however. Since prejudice is irrational by default, Kale certainly likes Miqo'te who prove themselves according to his criteria. Same logic as "Hey, some of my best friends are <redacted>!". On that note about male Miqo'te hitting on Hyuran women...same "logic" behind those who didn't want interracial marriage between white and black folk. Not kidding when I say to folk that Kale would vote Republican if he existed IRL!
Oh, Coatleque, those adventurers! Kale does not like them either, because he is a huge conformist and traditionalist. Adventurers tend to be idiosyncratic and strange. OOC, a lot of that anime and overpowered stuff comes into play here, but IC, it's a case of Kale going "Oh, so you're different than the rest of us ordinary people, are you?". Basically a form of Tall poppy syndrome. It's an interesting case of an 'ordinary person being surrounded by extraordinary people'. Take an NPC reacting to one of the PC's crazy achievements, similar sort of thing.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Melkire - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 03:14 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: Miqo'te Males are the most egregious examples of having this, followed by Midlander Males (BOTH OF YOU STOP WEARING THOSE SNOW COATS!)
NO. YOU CAN'T MAKE US. NYAH~~~
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Askier - 09-30-2014
Askier has developed a bias over the course of role play. He was skinned alive and tortured by a roe named Itar. Ever since that event he can't stand to be around them or speak to them and thinks of them as nothing more than feral animals waiting to inflict pain on people because he is afraid of them.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Tiergan - 09-30-2014
In terms of Tiergan - he doesn't hate tribal miqo'te, but he's really unnerved by their culture. He's an urban miqo'te and has spent his entire life in cities. The culture and societal structure of miqo'te tribes, both Moon Keeper and Sun Seeker sound frighteningly confining to him. If he somehow wound up in a Seeker Tribe - he would probably do everything in his power *not* to end up Nunh even if it lead to people questioning his masculinity. A life spent as breeding stock just isn't what he wants to do with himself. He doesn't understand why the majority of tribe cats don't flee to the cities.
Lurial doesn't have many biases. Everyone is an opportunity to learn something interesting.
Furious Storm can sometimes be wary of Sea Wolf men, if they are young, loud, rowdy, and seem like they're looking to prove something. The louder and more chaotic they are, the quietly discomforted he is by them. This is mostly a product of his younger adventuring days when he'd often find himself getting into scraps with sailors in Limsa Lominsa -- most of which just happened to be Sea Wolves. All of this can easily be dispelled with friendly conversation and a good drink.
Leilani, like Luri, doesn't have any biases. Everyone's an opportunity to get a sweet, sweet bard song made!
(09-30-2014, 03:23 PM)Melkire Wrote:(09-30-2014, 03:14 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: Miqo'te Males are the most egregious examples of having this, followed by Midlander Males (BOTH OF YOU STOP WEARING THOSE SNOW COATS!)
NO. YOU CAN'T MAKE US. NYAH~~~
BRB. GLAMOURING SNOW COAT TO ALL OF MY GEAR. ( Also, I don't have any cool looking gear yet. Just let me have my ink-blue trenchcoat. ;_; )
Also, folks, let's keep the "I dislike certain types of characters OOC" out of this thread if we can. This is clearly a thread about what our characters ICly dislike - not a thread about what kinds of RP and characters we think are lame. The mention of why you hate certain characters OOC, even if many of us agree with some of it, can kind of take this thread down an unpleasant road if it continues, I think.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Jana - 09-30-2014
Jana is definitely biased against Wildwood Elezen, being from the Shroud but not Gridania proper. She doesn't have any outright hatred for them like she does towards Garleans, but she finds them a stuffy bunch that is best avoided. She tends to paint in broad strokes.
While she doesn't have actual negative feelings towards lalafell, them being little and it being hard to tell their genders at times leads to Jana generalizing them as "funny little popoto people," certainly an unfair bias, if not outright racist!
As a career adventurer, anyone that isn't part of the welcomed races (beastmen, goblins, etc.) are ignored at best, targets at worst, with the exception of the Kobolds ("If they can build such awesome machines, they can't be as barbaric as the rest!"). Ironically enough, her opinion on them only improved after participating in a campaign to defeat their primal, Titan... And barring exceptional circumstances, Garleans are "capture on sight, kill if that fails."
She hasn't really run into any tribal Miqo'te of the Sun, but I feel like she might be biased against them too. Anyone that elevates a single breeding male to such a lofty status and disregards the rest can't be right in the head. (Nevermind that Nunh doesn't often mean Leader, but Jana wouldn't know that!)
Oddly enough, Jana both likes only women and doesn't have any biases against men in general.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Kage - 09-30-2014
Oh man Kage's reaction if he was called a Popoto person D:
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - C'kayah Polaali - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 03:05 PM)Coatleque Wrote:That's what Nat offered him to get him interested in looking for Osric. Coatleque delivered a piece of paper that made good on Nat's promise. Take it up with Nat. C's too busy reclining on a bed made of gil...(09-30-2014, 02:55 PM)C Wrote: Osric Melkire, The Syndicate, Tylwyth Narah and a written charter declaring immunity to search and seizure in Thanalan is what happened.Â
Wait what? Â All Coatleque did was get him a license to resume trade in Thanalan. Â Nothing about immunity to inspection!
Oscric, wut u do? Â Stahp it!
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Melkire - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 03:05 PM)Coatleque Wrote:(09-30-2014, 02:55 PM)C Wrote: Osric Melkire, The Syndicate, Tylwyth Narah and a written charter declaring immunity to search and seizure in Thanalan is what happened.Â
Wait what? Â All Coatleque did was get him a license to resume trade in Thanalan. Â Nothing about immunity to inspection!
Oscric, wut u do? Â Stahp it!
I did absolutely nothing... other than fake C'kayah's death once upon a time. I should probably notify Swift that the male is at large again. Hmm. Yes.
EDIT:
NAAAAAAAAAAT~!!! *shakes fist*
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Jana - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 04:04 PM)Kage Wrote: Oh man Kage's reaction if he was called a Popoto person D:
She has a high opinion of individuals like Kage. But like I said, broad strokes...
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - DreamedReality - 09-30-2014
Jaques has... a few.
I dont' think I've made a secret of his wariness for Wildwoods. And he's downright antagonistic towards Wood Wailers/Godsbowman. Which is why he's ICly banned from Gridania at present...
He has a bias against 'madammes' 'dames' 'pimp' 'mothers' 'masters' whatever term they wanna use for a head of a brothel/prostitution ring. They lure pretty men and women in with promises of gil for the sale of sexual favors. Offer an assortment of protections. Which sounds fine on the surface. But he's noticed in practice the protections can be very selectively enforced based on several arbitrary factors. And the whore has little-to-no say in -who- they bed for the evening. He has little issues with the whores/companions/courtesans in general and has great respect for those that are in business for themselves.
He also hates gil and those with it. He grew up in a clan where a gil structure was non-existant and a person's worth was gauged on how well they did the job they took/were given to provide for the clan community as a whole. Where he's noticed how a man can nearly break himself in labor in the 'overworld' and make a pittance. With the bulk of the earnings ending up in some fat noble's pocket malms away. He despises the fact that those who undertake labor intensive jobs for a living are viewed in many aspects as inferior to those who take on more intellectual and manipulative pursuits. He's not exactly happy that he's reached a point in his life where gil is actually needed in large quantity.
He also has a bias against obviously overweight people. Not that it's come up exactly with other PCs... But he views it as the product of a sedate and over indulgent lifestyle.
RE: Does your character have any unfair Bias or Discrimination? - Kage - 09-30-2014
(09-30-2014, 04:09 PM)Jana Wrote:(09-30-2014, 04:04 PM)Kage Wrote: Oh man Kage's reaction if he was called a Popoto person D:
She has a high opinion of individuals like Kage. But like I said, broad strokes...
I want to meet someone who'd call Kage a popoto.
He still hasn't eaten one. (To his knowledge).
He's eaten them but he didn't know that's what they were called. XD