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RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Aaron - 04-15-2016
(04-15-2016, 01:54 PM)Gegenji Wrote:Nobody got time for that(04-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Aaron Wrote:Hey Aaron, I got this link for you to look at in-game with that controller-typing superiority...(04-15-2016, 12:56 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:Yet I've never been called a slow replier.(04-15-2016, 12:49 PM)Aaron Wrote: Y'all need help with bars on a PS4 controller while I'm at the point I can type a paragraph almost as fast as a person using a keyboard with the joystick and the x button lol
Objection! Exaggeration! Taking half a dozen inputs to press one button isn't remotely as effective as even hunting/pecking with two fingers!
Take that keyboard master race, you'll never take me alive!
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - GhostlyMaiden - 04-15-2016
(04-15-2016, 02:18 PM)Aaron Wrote:(04-15-2016, 01:54 PM)Gegenji Wrote:Nobody got time for that(04-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Aaron Wrote:Hey Aaron, I got this link for you to look at in-game with that controller-typing superiority...(04-15-2016, 12:56 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:Yet I've never been called a slow replier.(04-15-2016, 12:49 PM)Aaron Wrote: Y'all need help with bars on a PS4 controller while I'm at the point I can type a paragraph almost as fast as a person using a keyboard with the joystick and the x button lol
Objection! Exaggeration! Taking half a dozen inputs to press one button isn't remotely as effective as even hunting/pecking with two fingers!
Take that keyboard master race, you'll never take me alive!
Me: "Yeah i'm on PS4, so I can't just copy and paste links....."
FC member literally a day later: "Hey Nagi! Look at this, (Insert stupidly long link here)"
Me: >_>
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Unnamed Mercenary - 04-15-2016
(04-15-2016, 02:24 PM)GhostlyMaiden Wrote:(04-15-2016, 02:18 PM)Aaron Wrote:(04-15-2016, 01:54 PM)Gegenji Wrote:Nobody got time for that(04-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Aaron Wrote:Hey Aaron, I got this link for you to look at in-game with that controller-typing superiority...(04-15-2016, 12:56 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Objection! Exaggeration! Taking half a dozen inputs to press one button isn't remotely as effective as even hunting/pecking with two fingers!Yet I've never been called a slow replier.
Take that keyboard master race, you'll never take me alive!
Me: "Yeah i'm on PS4, so I can't just copy and paste links....."
FC member literally a day later: "Hey Nagi! Look at this, (Insert stupidly long link here)"
Me: >_>
Shortened links or bust. ...or skype or discord. Or whatever the kids are using on the interwebs today.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Warren Castille - 04-16-2016
Dear healer,
If you die 10 seconds into the of Aetherochemical's double boss, and you managed to get petrified, stand in shit and do a shit job of healing, yes, we do get to make fun of you. Take it on the chin and get good. You weren't even new.
Generally speaking: If you fuck up and cause a wipe, own it. Don't try to get all sanctimonious because you can't run out of a red circle.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Kurt S. - 04-18-2016
Dear my timezone, body clock, and fatigue
t(ouo t) fuck you for screwing me out of RP 80% of the time.
Sincerely,
Me.
In game related.
Dear me,Â
Just because you put Eos/Selene on obey doesn't mean you forget you have a pet bar in the first place. Nor does that give you right to be in cleric stance throughout the whole dungeon (again) and not notice it, thinking you're a SMN Tank.
Sincerely,
Me.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Valence - 04-18-2016
Too all the MCHs that use point blank shot in dungeons, you are driving me crazy.Â
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Kellach Woods - 04-18-2016
Dear self,
In World of Darkness's Atomos trash, YOU DO NOT NEED TO PRESS PADS BEFORE 15 SECONDS IN THE FIGHT.
In fact, that's not a pad. That's a bounce station.
That will bounce you out of the fight.
And make you look like an idiot or worse, a troll.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Korin - 04-19-2016
Until today, I wasn't aware that harassing your tank into mass pulling in low level dungeons was a thing.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Warren Castille - 04-19-2016
(04-19-2016, 05:59 AM)Korin Wrote: Until today, I wasn't aware that harassing your tank into mass pulling in low level dungeons was a thing.
It really depends on the dungeons themselves. It's possible and preferrable in the super-lower ones, but Halatali's a bit rougher due to AoE and TP limits on classes. Toto-Rak and Haukke are both okay due to gating, but Brayflox and Stone Vigil get rough again. Cutter's Cry gates itself off really well, too.
If I had a nickel for every time I was told to "pull big" and then died ten seconds after settling, I'd have probably a lot of nickels.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Telluride - 04-19-2016
(04-19-2016, 08:48 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:(04-19-2016, 05:59 AM)Korin Wrote: Until today, I wasn't aware that harassing your tank into mass pulling in low level dungeons was a thing.
It really depends on the dungeons themselves. It's possible and preferrable in the super-lower ones, but Halatali's a bit rougher due to AoE and TP limits on classes. Toto-Rak and Haukke are both okay due to gating, but Brayflox and Stone Vigil get rough again. Cutter's Cry gates itself off really well, too.
If I had a nickel for every time I was told to "pull big" and then died ten seconds after settling, I'd have probably a lot of nickels.
Also, being the Tank means never having to take crap from the rest of the party, in a dungeon.
They don't like it? Let 'em drop. You're the tank. You'll have your party rebuilt while they're sitting in the re-queue. If they insist on pulling everything and bringing it to you at their pace, not yours, let 'em die, and tell them you're doing so. If they don't like it, you got a bad party, so why tolerate it?
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Warren Castille - 04-19-2016
(04-19-2016, 09:29 AM)Telluride Wrote:(04-19-2016, 08:48 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:(04-19-2016, 05:59 AM)Korin Wrote: Until today, I wasn't aware that harassing your tank into mass pulling in low level dungeons was a thing.
It really depends on the dungeons themselves. It's possible and preferrable in the super-lower ones, but Halatali's a bit rougher due to AoE and TP limits on classes. Toto-Rak and Haukke are both okay due to gating, but Brayflox and Stone Vigil get rough again. Cutter's Cry gates itself off really well, too.
If I had a nickel for every time I was told to "pull big" and then died ten seconds after settling, I'd have probably a lot of nickels.
Also, being the Tank means never having to take crap from the rest of the party, in a dungeon.
They don't like it? Let 'em drop. You're the tank. You'll have your party rebuilt while they're sitting in the re-queue. If they insist on pulling everything and bringing it to you at their pace, not yours, let 'em die, and tell them you're doing so. If they don't like it, you got a bad party, so why tolerate it?
Tank privilege, baby. It's the unique sort of MMO miscommunication that causes all of these problems. Want a tank to go faster? Ask him first. Most tanks see people who "help" pull as unspoken criticism. I've had a number of situations where an archer (it's always an archer!) who runs ahead in low dungeons and just goes berserk on a target, which gives GLD/PLD an interesting and unfun dilemma:
Try to race threat on the monster getting lit up by arrows and risk losing the rest of the pack since we only got to flash once? Or let the archer get chewed on because pre-Rage of Halone it's impossible to match an archer burning cooldowns if they start before you do?
Bad analogy time: It's like waiting an hour to get into a crowded restaurant, and then going into the kitchen yourself to get your food because service is bad.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Aaron - 04-19-2016
Then you got the ninjas who pull big and then hit the tank with Shadewalker.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Valence - 04-19-2016
Maybe i'm cruel but when I see that as a heal I like letting them die. I usually /upset at them the first time, then stop healing them altogether, while asking gently if they can let the tank pull.
Sometimes you get answered "it's a low level dungeon, chill", which is the most infuriating thing ever. Low level or not, they are making your job unfun and super annoying for the sake of their little whims.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Warren Castille - 04-19-2016
There's definitely peen involved. The truth of it is that in low-level dungeons, your tank is your weakest point. They're not needed in the first three, you don't need one in Halatali if you do pulls one at a time, you don't need one in Toto-Rak, and you don't need one in Haukke. Any physical DPS class is going to be able to do the job. People pulling and going balls-deep on something just reinforces it.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Valence - 04-19-2016
Sometimes I just also wish they synced items in low level dungeons...
Honestly with the power creep going on we already see teams where an overgeared DPS will always keep the aggro no matter what, against low level tanks.