(08-05-2015, 08:17 AM)Melodia Wrote: This thread and most of the comments attached to it, are most of what I makes me fail to even bother logging in anymore.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3fuahu/at_what_point_is_someones_performance_unacceptable/

Yes, everyone should be trying their best but damn it, when did this game change from, oh, I don't know...a game into something akin to a work assignment. No one in this thing is my employer, spouse, or anything that resembles an authority figure. So when someone wants to lecture and yell at me about me "not parsing enough" (and yes, insert sniveling voice there....I intended it as so) it turns me off. I pay for the game. I am doing the best I can, and so are others.

If people actually knew how to offer advice rather than "You suck noob! Go git gud or kill yourself" then maybe the lower dps players would improve. But when someone approaches me (a paying damn player....my rl money going into the game) like this, I want to quit because it's ridiculous. "Yur wasting my timez!" is what I hear in reply. I get it if people are actively trolling and not even trying to win, but the difference in time needed to complete an instance from people who are trying but not superpro gamers(trademark pending) versus elite hall of fame level static players, is actually pretty damn minimal in the grand scheme. What else do you have planned in the game that is so time critical that a few extra minutes would destroy such plans? If your answer is anything besides "Not a whole lot to be honest" then maybe your time planning ought to be refigured. No one player is so important that they ought to be lecturing and scolding other DPS folks who fail to meet their precious number requirements. I've gotten so sick of seeing this phenomenon lately that it makes nauseous to even log in anymore.

"Your numbers suck. Your gear sucks. Your [insert whatever the hell you want here] sucks."

Translation: "You aren't good enough in MY book."

Well YOUR book sucks. And makes the game suck.

Just my vent. Which is what I think this thread is for. I feel better now.

TL; DR: This isn't a damn job interview. It's a video game of fake pixels and imaginary items. Get over your elite crap, lay off the less than stellar players and (god forbid) relax and have fun.

(08-05-2015, 11:56 AM)Pepe Wrote: It's 100% reasonable to expect someone who joins a team to expend the bare minimum of effort to carry their weight on the team in this game. If you are pulling Crystal Tower levels of DPS at max level content, you are the asshole. If you have an expectation that strangers should take time out of their day to teach you your class when it's easy as shit to just google up one of the very helpful guides that nice people wrote for everyone, you are the fucking asshole here.

Very few people expect anyone to deal savage level DPS in a dungeon. People who post threads like the one you linked just want you to carry your weight.

(08-05-2015, 12:05 PM)Telluride Wrote:

(08-05-2015, 11:56 AM)Pepe Wrote: It's 100% reasonable to expect someone who joins a team to expend the bare minimum of effort to carry their weight on the team in this game. If you are pulling Crystal Tower levels of DPS at max level content, you are the asshole. If you have an expectation that strangers should take time out of their day to teach you your class when it's easy as shit to just google up one of the very helpful guides that nice people wrote for everyone, you are the fucking asshole here.

Very few people expect anyone to deal savage level DPS in a dungeon. People who post threads like the one you linked just want you to carry your weight.

We can assure you that there ARE people who DO expect you to dish that very level of damage in a DF dungeon, and who ARE very arrogant and sometimes have the manners of prepubescent brats. These people ARE assholes, no matter how many guides the rest of the party have or have not read.

I actually reported a couple of such people. It was a Vault run, and we were actually doing fine, getting through the content, and then one of a pair, who wasn't doing anywhere near as well as he'd like to believe, starting rattling off how much the others in the party sucked, and how good they were, when if they'd been half as good as they were claiming, we'd have ALL had a cakewalk run. They got nasty about it, too, but made the mistake of announcing that they were parsing the fight.

I have some decent tolerance for stupidity (I used to be a teacher, a job incompatible with the urge to tell stupid people the truth about themselves), but when you're going to be abusive AND hypocritical, AND stupid enough to admit that you're using a parser in a game forbidding it, then I'm sorry, karma itself demands you get screencapped and reported.

(08-05-2015, 12:11 PM)Pepe Wrote: I'm sure there are a few people who do that, like I said in the post I made. I've never seen them, and the person I was responding to was complaining about a thread where the OP's expectation was that a DPS player be able to out DPS the tank.

(08-05-2015, 11:56 AM)Pepe Wrote: It's 100% reasonable to expect someone who joins a team to expend the bare minimum of effort to carry their weight on the team in this game. If you are pulling Crystal Tower levels of DPS at max level content, you are the asshole. If you have an expectation that strangers should take time out of their day to teach you your class when it's easy as shit to just google up one of the very helpful guides that nice people wrote for everyone, you are the fucking asshole here.

Very few people expect anyone to deal savage level DPS in a dungeon. People who post threads like the one you linked just want you to carry your weight.

(08-09-2015, 03:44 PM)Vinrael Wrote: That aside, what I really want to ask is - What situations do people expect (ranged) DPS to use that LB on, and when? Am I thinking too hard into this? It's the first time I've really been called out on it, so I'm forever panicking over whether or not I should use it now ;_;

(08-09-2015, 04:09 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:

(08-09-2015, 03:44 PM)Vinrael Wrote: That aside, what I really want to ask is - What situations do people expect (ranged) DPS to use that LB on, and when? Am I thinking too hard into this? It's the first time I've really been called out on it, so I'm forever panicking over whether or not I should use it now ;_;

I've found that ranged/caster LB is more useful outside of boss fights on large trash pulls. Both ranged and caster LBs are more effective against multiple adds, and in most Heavensward dungeon bosses, multiple overbearing adds rarely come into play. So... use it on a trash heavy section to clear a room quickly.

Quote:Honestly the lb doesnt mean anything in 4 man content. The normal dungeons are made to be easier content for everyone to enjoy. LB is more of a tool for more challenging content. Personally if ive noticed my pugs not using the lb ill just blow it randomly as a whm or sch for lulz.

(08-25-2015, 07:47 PM)Manari Wrote: This has been bothering me for a while now.  And someone correct me if I'm wrong about this, I haven't done any research, only assumptions.  

I hate now that every bard finally has a stupid DPS limit break, they start mashing it every time a blue limit bar turns yellow.  I could have easily finished off a boss but no, the bard wants to fire his silly AoE line and it does sad damage.  I'm only assuming mine as a Ninja would do more since it's single target, and its making me mad.  Mages don't ever do this to me.  Only bards.