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RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Flickering Ember - 12-21-2014
(12-21-2014, 03:17 AM)Aya Wrote: I'm really not a fan of sexual dimorphism when it seems to mainly exist to avoid making an "unattractive" female version, and I feel like that's what we're looking at here. I also am not inspired by the idea of the race itself. So, overall, I'll give a resounding "meh". Don't think I'll ever make one :-]
I came into this thread to make a post that would share my discontent on the new race but this is pretty much exactly how I feel. Sexual dimorphism makes me quite angry actually. Other people seem to really be into them though. I don't want to kill anyone's thunder but since this is a discussion thread I will say what is on my mind.
Now, I knew that whatever race they would make it would be something pretty. That is just how Final Fantasy and Japanese games in general are. Even expecting that though, I figured there would be more features about this race that would set them apart from other races. My disappointment doesn't lie in the fact that they aren't beastial, but almost entirely in sexual dimorphism.
The males are fine to me. They have more of a bad boy feel to them than elezen do (who are distuinguished gentlemen). They are muscular but have more of a heartthrob appearance than highlander males do. So, I believe the Au Ra males have their own identity that makes them unique from the other races.
Female Au Ra not only look freakishly short next to their male counterparts, which I personally find disturbing, but the Dragon features are much less prominent on them. I believe that they could have made them a similar size with more Dragon features while still making them look beautiful, in a stereotypical fashion. That, and they just look like hyur females with tiny horns pasted on their heads.
But hey, people can take what I say with a lot of salt. I never really liked this game's race selection anyway and almost passed up on it for that reason. I am glad I didn't because Final Fantasy XIV is really such an amazing game. It's just not perfect, and this, to me, is one of its blemishes.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Hayden - 12-21-2014
The new race is a complete disapointment. The females look like Midlander's, while the males look big, bulky and kind of awesome. I don't know what I was expecting out of Squenix, but please those two do not look anything like the same species at all.Â
I agree with the previous post, Sexual dimorphism makes me angry!
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Norna - 12-21-2014
While I love how they look (except how patchy some of the scale placement is, hopefully that'll be an option in Character Creation), I dislike the sexual dimorphism (they should just have made the two tribes/clans look different; one tall with muscle. Female could be sort of like Viera/concept art Elezen without the ears and bad feet. The other could have been short, petite and slender. They running theme could be that they're both very graceful). It's too different from the races we already have, considering that Titan and the Livestream Lore Panel basically confirmed the playable races are all human (this is actually a good Lore reason why they are not more bestial looking).
As far as I know, they're supposed to come from Doma, and while they could be Elezen/Dravanian, I don't think that's the case. That would make them the only playable race that originate in Eorzea (as far as I know, all the others migrated at some point in time, with Elezen being the oldest and Miqo'te the youngest).
Depending on their animations, my Midlander might become an Au Ra (I find playing the RL human boring, but so far they have the best animations).
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - DreamedReality - 12-21-2014
The only thing I really thought when I saw the males was: Great... they gave my elezen bara slider to the Au Ra. THANKS SE. >:c
I doubt I'll be rolling one and am interested how they're going to suddenly incorporate a new race into an existing setting. I'm not really a fan of games/worlds that do that as a general rule since it always just seems either too downplayed or so overplayed to be annoying. And why add yet -another- race when the current races still have a lot of history/interactions to explore?
So. It'll be interesting at least.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Steel Wolf - 12-21-2014
Roegadyn 'till sea swallows all.
That is all. :3
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Antain - 12-21-2014
(12-21-2014, 08:53 AM)Jaques Wrote: The only thing I really thought when I saw the males was: Great... they gave my elezen bara slider to the Au Ra. THANKS SE. >:c
I doubt I'll be rolling one and am interested how they're going to suddenly incorporate a new race into an existing setting. I'm not really a fan of games/worlds that do that as a general rule since it always just seems either too downplayed or so overplayed to be annoying. And why add yet -another- race when the current races still have a lot of history/interactions to explore?
So. It'll be interesting at least.
Very much this. You beat me to it yet again, Jaques!
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - ProvaDiServo - 12-21-2014
Probably won't do it. I'd like the ladies to be a bit bulkier, and I gotta get a good look at the horn types and etc for the males. The current male form the showed makes me think of a taurus wthat has taken human form.
I wonder who is going to be the first user with the name "Kirin Rathalos" or "Seathe D'scaless "
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Kellach Woods - 12-21-2014
I personally like it when they add a new race because it gives more options to the player. Someone who didn't care for the five races now has an extra choice to see if they'd care more for that instead.
However, as mentioned by others, the sexual dismorphism is so freaking bad that I'm tempted not to roll one out of spite. IF I do, it'll be because it's overplayed in that screenshot and we can make 'em as beefy as the males.
Worst part is, if I do roll one... it'll be a dude most likely.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Oscare - 12-21-2014
I'm not entirely sold on how the male Au Ra look. The females look wonderful though. Not a fan of the male examples they showed, I feel like I need to see more options before I can say anything.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Seriphyn - 12-21-2014
(12-21-2014, 03:17 AM)Aya Wrote: I'm really not a fan of sexual dimorphism when it seems to mainly exist to avoid making an "unattractive" female version, and I feel like that's what we're looking at here. I also am not inspired by the idea of the race itself. So, overall, I'll give a resounding "meh". Don't think I'll ever make one :-]
Yes, the size difference between male and female is bloody disgraceful, I don't know how they think they can so blatantly get away with being so obvious that the females are clearly fan service. All other races are similarly proportioned, except Au Ra.
I doubt I'll have much interest RPing with Au Ra, except for the men maybe. I will not be able to shake the feeling that someone playing a female Au Ra is only doing so "because they're pretty". IC this might be justified by the fact Kale will despise "bloody foreigners" or what have you. I also bet there's going to be freaking Eorzeanborn Au Ra, because someone's going to go "Meh lore, I love this race OOC, I love this class OOC, I'm going to make it work". It's not impossible, but it's going to be equivalent to someone from Imperial China being born in 1500s Europe. Very strange.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Steel Wolf - 12-21-2014
What kinda baffles me a bit about the dimorphism of the Au Ra is that I always got the impression that female dragons were larger than the males. If anything, I'd have thought the body shapes would be the other way 'round.
Eh...I enjoy playing the large and proportional races overall. I'm happy with my choice. Certainly don't fault those who are excited for the Au Ra. Enjoyment is the point, after all. :>
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Kellach Woods - 12-21-2014
We know approximately zero lore on the Au Ra so let's not jump the gun on claiming something's against the lore, 'kay?
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Norna - 12-21-2014
(12-21-2014, 10:48 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: We know approximately zero lore on the Au Ra so let's not jump the gun on claiming something's against the lore, 'kay?Though if SE does crossbreeds (they've said that they're thinking about it since it came second in the poll and was liked across all nationalities, plus lore panel on livestream hinted at some showing up in Heavensward), and Au Ra is compatible with the other playable races, it means that they too are human, which means that we need some lore explanation of the sexual dimorphism of close relatives that is not shown in the other races.
I'll LOL if the lore ends up being "men's baths were irradiated with corrupted aether after the Calamity, causing after-growth growth spurts and steroid-like growth of muscles" or something like that.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - Kellach Woods - 12-21-2014
I'd laugh too but it's sadly going to be something likely worse than the concept of the dismorphism in the first place.
RE: Thoughts on the Au Ra? - cuideag - 12-21-2014
(12-21-2014, 06:45 AM)Bryn Wrote:100% this. I love the way the males look and I am very interested in seeing what sort of customization options they'll have, but the ladies do nothing for me at all. Too petite, too dainty, ultimately even less appealing to me than midlanders/miqo'te.(12-21-2014, 03:17 AM)Aya Wrote: I'm really not a fan of sexual dimorphism when it seems to mainly exist to avoid making an "unattractive" female version, and I feel like that's what we're looking at here. I also am not inspired by the idea of the race itself. So, overall, I'll give a resounding "meh". Don't think I'll ever make one :-]
This. The males look pretty badass, but the females are so disappointing. They look like Miqo/Midlander females with a scaly tail stuck on. They don't look like they are even from the same race, it's so bad.