(12-01-2014, 01:13 AM)TheCurls Wrote:(11-29-2014, 06:32 AM)Faye Wrote: Second problem with a lot of DRG role-players I've seen firsthand is the idea both IC and OOC that jumping on things is the best way to kill them. I'm not talking giant dragons, I'm talking smaller and speedier targets like other people... There's a reason that IRL few martial arts and combat styles involve jumping out of the air at people... it leaves you vulnerable and there's really no benefit to outweigh that. There was an IC DRG once who joined my FC for all of an hour until he was told IC that jumping was a silly tactic when fighting other people began to yell at us OOC about that remark that had been made in RP, promptly quit the FC and apparently to this day goes around telling everyone not to RP with us lol. If you want to have your character jump around a lot, and even if you want him to be presumed to be good at it and be a competent fighter, that's fine--but you need to be able to handle criticism on the matter, as many people may not find jumping 20 feet in the air to be a useful or believable fighting tactic.
This really bothered me. RL logic really should be discarded in a fantasy game. I would have left the FC too if people were trashing my RP like that. How is it a silly tactic when every single one of your Dragoon-given skills is a jump or a jump-enhancer?
Jump is the iconic dragoon (dragon slayers) skill in the entire Final Fantasy universe. It shouldn't be discredited like that.
If we discard all RL logic, how will we all have a similar idea of how to RP and how the world functions IC? How can we deduce how our characters would react mentally and even physically that matter if we don't take into account RL knowledge of psychology, physics, chemistry, sociology, biology, etc.? What's the standard if we can't base these simple, incredibly important things on RL laws we all understand and know? When your character is sad, you know he may cry or frown because that's what people do IRL. When you character jumps, you assume he won't float off into the sky forever because on earth IRL, we have gravity that prevents that.
At least some dosage of RL logic is necessary to determine things like cause and effects and what your character is capable of. It's safe to assume that the setting--even of most fantasy games--is based at least loosely on the real world at some point in time unless specified otherwise, and thus it's typically safe to assume things function like real life unless we're told/shown otherwise.
Sure, if it's a fantasy game, obviously a small measure of RL logic must be discarded. "Jump is the iconic dragoon (dragon slayers) skill in the entire Final Fantasy universe." As you said yourself, canonically this skill is meant to be used against dragons, large flying targets, not against other people or Beastmen or what have you, as that's what dragoons are trained and meant to do.
I don't really think it's "trashing" someone's RP by any stretch to have a character criticize another character IC. RP is pointless without conflict and people playing a wishy-washy character who agrees 100% with everything others tell them, ever, is boring beyond words. My character's opinions are her own, not mine. Sometimes they happen to align, sometimes they don't. To get so upset OOC about something said IC makes me think the person doesn't really understand RP, or their character is just a self-insert thus making them personally hurt by any IC criticism, or they're trying to play a Mary Sue and are offended when someone doesn't find their character to be the coolest thing ever--or perhaps a combination of any of those.
None the less, someone disagreeing about the semantics of how a class is meant to be RPed is a fair reason to leave if they please, and while it may be polite to try to discuss it and come to an understanding first it's by absolutely no means necessary. I don't and would never hold that against someone. But I do think there's a difference between simply leaving, and leaving and verbally attacking everyone on your way out (and afterward). As such, it's why I mentioned this person is an example of why some people may dislike dragoon RPers.
As others have said, it boils to down to different opinions of philosophies of how to RP. No matter what your opinion, throwing insults and profanity at someone who doesn't share your opinion on a matter so harmless is never justified, and as such I don't think I'll ever find this person's actions excusable.