(02-15-2015, 12:13 AM)Faye Wrote:(02-14-2015, 12:41 PM)Naunet Wrote: Well, I made the mistake of clicking through that video to look at the comments. -_-
It's hard to not look at what a lot of those "gamergate" folk say and not see a "burning hatred of all women". That SVU episode makes it pretty clear that it's definitely not true for all gamers, though. The disgusting creeps in it were a minority. A dangerous one, but a minority.
This.
(02-14-2015, 02:10 PM)Lekka Meyren Wrote: This tendency to apply something bad said about "Gamers" to all gamers, or "Men" to all men (remember #notallmen? Well not all men do.)
... Is really quite tiring. There's a huuuuuumongous problem of culture in the game industry at the moment because it seems to have found overlap in the criminal elements and the right wing extremes.
Doesn't mean everyone who plays games is bad, but there sure ain't no lack of assholes.
And this.
To add my own two cents about the ridiculousness of Gamergate, though... I don't believe ethics in game journalism is that rampant or serious of a problem (at least, none of the people who've raved to me about it could actually give credible evidence to me of how it was). But if people really want to champion that cause, more power to 'em, but they A) should probably form an actual group with clear cut goals and ideas how to make progress that's not just a lot dudes yelling on the internet in a formless, aimless mass that does nothing progressive but send hatemail (and often not even to game journalists...), B) should probably form their own movement rather than piggybacking on a movement that was literally made to harass women and then wonder why everyone thinks they're misogynists and whine about how people are making it about hating women when "it's actually about ethics in game journalism," and C) should probably find a different name for themselves than "Gamergaters" since it's become synonymous with harassing women and if they really do want ethics and are supposedly thoroughly against harassment and sexism, they shouldn't want to be associated with such things, especially since it completely distracts from their goals of promoting ethics.
But something truly wonderful came out of Gamergate--this meme.
A)Â Evidence that ethics in game journalism are practically nonexistent, condensed into a convenient tumblr:Â http://loltaku.tumblr.com/
If you want something more recent, you can look up the time Gawker spammed a Coca-Cola "spread happiness" or something campaign with quotes from Mein Kampf, because the campaign was... promoting happiness for straight white males, obviously.
B) The movement is based on an anonymous imageboard, where anyone can say literally anything. People have taken screenshots of one person screaming about how women are terrible and branded the entire movement is against women. What they leave out is the ten or so replies to that comment telling the poster to get out and stay out. If Gamegate hated women, why did they fund The Fine Young Capitalists, a movement that aimed to get women into the games industry? Why did they choose a female avatar to represent their movement? Why does #NotYourShield exist? If more people actually dug past what the media says and did proper research, they'd realize that the story is heavily skewed to favor one side over the other.Â
Becaaaaaaause when you're going against the media, guess who's going to do everything to discredit you? The media!
C) Feminists don't disassociate themselves from the title "Feminism" because of a minority being hardcore misandrists or attention seekers. Gamergate doesn't betray itself because a minority is what the media has chosen to represent them.
Also that meme has been dead for months, and is just another example of the opposition using slander and mockery, since the evidence they ignore contradicts the narrative they want to spin.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate The actual history behind it, if anyone's interested.