Hrm.. let's address each point seperately
Completely agree with that statement. But it's clearly based on some preceeding example situation which you didn't completely explain.
Give us a whole account of your example like, what IC actions they took offense to, what OOC communication happened prior, what consequences it had for the other players, and then we can talk about whether 'OOC Butthurt' was justified in that case or not. I'd be hard pressed to say 'you're right' If we don't even know 'Why' those 'Butthurt' people got angry in the first place.
Details Plz.
We're not holy spirits that radiate marshmellows and love 24/7.
I'd strike out the 'Social Justice Warrior' bit and just go with Hypocrites, given your example. Endless Harassment based on loose 'proof' and hearsay is most often just a 'Hey!, he was mean to our friend, let's fuck him up!' Scenario. That's work for the GM's. Though again I question how that harassment you speak of actually looks like. Have you been harassed in such fashion or seen it? and if so, in what fashion?
Because voicing distaste for a certain action/behavior and a Social Justice Warrior witch-hunt including constant PM's / Harassment in whichever form are two very seperate things.
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As a last note;
I think you ended up hurt yourself over the way some people reacted to you and the way you play your character. You mentioned that you play a Manipulative Character and that people reacted in such fashion. I'll assume that a good bit of this thread was posted for that very reason.
If so, the only advice I can give you is this;
Usually, you will not change people or the way they behave through a simple forum post like this. And whatever is aggrivating those around you, is aggrivating them for a reason. Now I'm not saying they're rightfully upset, but if it's a pattern that repeats itself for you, there's perhaps more to it then 'People suck because they can't handle how realistically i play my character'
 Either you're not explicit enough in your warnings, or you're ought to find yourself different roleplayers that are comfortable with maniplative / betraying characters. Playing Characters that are Anti-Social / Evil / Manipulative and playing them truthfully and to the core 'will' without a doubt rub some feathers the wrong way.
Either way, You can either choose to invest in heavy OOC communication beforehand with the players you're involved in to avoid such drama, or you can bank on it that they will keep getting 'rubbed' the wrong way. Atleast those that have thin hides and take things personally.
One way or another. If you want a more detailed answer to your rant, provide us with some more detailed examples please. Because so far this topic was nothing more then a;
Bringing OOC IC is bad / Gossiping is Bad / Being a Hypocrite is bad thread. Which obviously everyone will agree on. Bring more detailed examples of those situations and then we might get somewhere.
Quote:1. There's a lot of OOC butthurt based on IC interactions (and vice-versa): While most people claim they "would never take IC OOC!" claims like this should be taken with a grain of salt. I play a manipulative character that often deceives people, and more than once I had to deal with unnecessary OOC drama because someone took offense to my IC actions, despite my warnings about her personality and tendencies. If it fits the character, don't get angry at the player. I understand being all "Aw, I didn't expect that..", I even understand pouting for a bit! But becoming bitter and treating the player as your sworn enemy over RP is hurtful and silly, which leads me to the next thing...
Completely agree with that statement. But it's clearly based on some preceeding example situation which you didn't completely explain.
Give us a whole account of your example like, what IC actions they took offense to, what OOC communication happened prior, what consequences it had for the other players, and then we can talk about whether 'OOC Butthurt' was justified in that case or not. I'd be hard pressed to say 'you're right' If we don't even know 'Why' those 'Butthurt' people got angry in the first place.
Details Plz.
Quote:2. People do a lot of OOC gossiping: Shock and awe. This is probably old news to everyone, but still something that should be brought to light. I don't know why, but people talk a lot of shit OOC. I can't say I am completely innocent myself, but I've seen people literally obsessed over other players. And many of the people who spread these rumors are hardly ever questioned, while the subject of the topic is almost never spoken to for the sake of knowing the truth.People are People, and People talk. Often about other People. They do that in good light, and in bad light. I know, Captain Obv. strikes again but, ranting over OOC gossipping is like ranting over 'social behavior' in general.Â
We're not holy spirits that radiate marshmellows and love 24/7.
Quote:3. There are a lot of (hypocritical) Social Justice Warriors:Â Many people try to fight for "justice" and go on witch-hunts against players they consider "so meeen!" when told a story without given proper context. This has led to endless harassment towards people that truly don't deserve it based on loose "proof" and false stories. And yet again, nobody ever questions the source or bothers to contact the subject of the topic.
I'd strike out the 'Social Justice Warrior' bit and just go with Hypocrites, given your example. Endless Harassment based on loose 'proof' and hearsay is most often just a 'Hey!, he was mean to our friend, let's fuck him up!' Scenario. That's work for the GM's. Though again I question how that harassment you speak of actually looks like. Have you been harassed in such fashion or seen it? and if so, in what fashion?
Because voicing distaste for a certain action/behavior and a Social Justice Warrior witch-hunt including constant PM's / Harassment in whichever form are two very seperate things.
_________________________
As a last note;
I think you ended up hurt yourself over the way some people reacted to you and the way you play your character. You mentioned that you play a Manipulative Character and that people reacted in such fashion. I'll assume that a good bit of this thread was posted for that very reason.
If so, the only advice I can give you is this;
Usually, you will not change people or the way they behave through a simple forum post like this. And whatever is aggrivating those around you, is aggrivating them for a reason. Now I'm not saying they're rightfully upset, but if it's a pattern that repeats itself for you, there's perhaps more to it then 'People suck because they can't handle how realistically i play my character'
 Either you're not explicit enough in your warnings, or you're ought to find yourself different roleplayers that are comfortable with maniplative / betraying characters. Playing Characters that are Anti-Social / Evil / Manipulative and playing them truthfully and to the core 'will' without a doubt rub some feathers the wrong way.
Either way, You can either choose to invest in heavy OOC communication beforehand with the players you're involved in to avoid such drama, or you can bank on it that they will keep getting 'rubbed' the wrong way. Atleast those that have thin hides and take things personally.
One way or another. If you want a more detailed answer to your rant, provide us with some more detailed examples please. Because so far this topic was nothing more then a;
Bringing OOC IC is bad / Gossiping is Bad / Being a Hypocrite is bad thread. Which obviously everyone will agree on. Bring more detailed examples of those situations and then we might get somewhere.