(02-12-2014, 11:04 PM)Sounsy Wrote: Leviathan was first summoned by the Sahagin in 1562 of the Sixth Astral Era. Leviathan was then summarily defeated by The Company of Heroes around the same time that they defeated Titan. The Sahagin have been hostile towards Lominsa ever since. Prior to 1562 though, a 1.0 NPC named Sisipu claims that the Sahagin were a harmless beast race who's worst crimes against Lominsans were cutting fishing nets.Â
However, there's currently no lore to support that Leviathan was summoned more than that one time.
Right right, now that you mention this I definitely remember that being stated. It has honestly been a long time.
Well, the only other mention of Leviathan was that the previous (Sixth) Umbral Era was called "The Sixth Umbral Era of Water." There was some people that have suggested this meant the entire world was covered by a great flood and Leviathan may have been the culprit. Though at this point that is also mostly speculation.
(02-13-2014, 12:19 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: As for reversing it... I'm not sure. It quite possible won't get reversed. However Natalie wasn't tempered by a "real" primal, and instead more of a garleans/ascian science experiment. If we do decide to reverse the tempering through RP, I don't think that contradicts anyone's lore, since this is a rather special case.
Honestly I would argue that undoing a tempering process for another mage would be profoundly more easier than undoing the bond of a primal (since that is what it sounds like this is where it's going). As far as another mortal is concerned their ability to effect and influence the aether will never be as profound as a primal, which appear to be beings of the aether made physical manifest.
I suppose you can think of it in terms of water. You have some individuals that can affect the flow of water in a very minimal way (such as dipping your hand and splashing somebody), then you have others that can affect the flow in a bigger way, (such as cupping a whole handful and throwing it at somebody). Now just as each person is endowed with their own natural body, they only have so much of that water (energy) within themselves. The transcience of life means that eventually the body will die and that energy will be returned. This is different than the primals themselves, who ARE the water. And in the above analogy with splashing and the throwing, their flow of water would be opening up a fire hose and dousing them utterly. As they are made of the stuff, they can do so without fundamentally giving away too much of themselves.
Which now brings me to an interesting question. Since tempering is a fundamental change to the aether of a person's being, how would a mage temper another individual? --In theory-- (and assuming how I am conceptualizing tempering in the above analogy as really how this whole process works) this would mean that they are giving up a part of their aether into another person to make that person "of" them. While this could also work --in theory-- it also means that the person fundamentally gave a part of their own aether (aka. their own life stream) into another person. Were a mage to do this too much and without any means of restoring their own natural aether, they would essentially hollow out their own body and make themselves a lifeless husk.
Thy life is a Riddle to bear Rapture and Sorrow
To Listen, to Wonder, to Entrust unto tomorrow
In One fleeting Moment from the land doth Life flow
In One fleeting Moment from the land doth Life flow
Yet in that Same Fleeting moment Thou must Live, Die, and Know