(05-12-2015, 11:59 AM)Aaron Wrote: Yes every raid is different but that still doesn't omit the fact that nothing is hard. All you have to do is stop trying to burn everything and actually do the mechanics. Judging from the replies in this thread that seems to be what everyone has done or witnessed and gotten a surprise when they wiped (PuG people other thsn those here included.)
It doesn't take rocket science to know the cannons are there for a reason and what the snares do. If you still have people just trying to burn adds via dps ignoring the cannons then its not that SoF is hard its your group sucks.
And therein lies the problem. Notice that when people mentioned having groups that know the mechanics or bring friends, they have very little issues. However, when you draw on the nebulous pool of random skill levels and player types that is the Duty Finder that is not always the case.
You will have people who will run in the opposite direct from the cannons when they're on cannon duty. There will be people who fire the dragonkiller before the boss is even shackled. There will be people who tank the adds in the wrong place. There will be DPS who focus more on the adds than on the boss.
There will be people who stand in the AoE, pull aggro off the tank, not hit the snares, or get stomped on. And there will be people who will openly and vehemently chew out the folks that do this, adding to the overall negative theme. And there are people who look at all this and say "I don't even want to deal with it" and will bail - meaning the new folk won't have as many people familiar with the fight on hand to help explain or deal with the fight.
The fight itself is not the problem beyond multiple mechanics to keep an eye on. It is the people and how they approach a fight with mechanics. And, an effectively arduous punishment for failure since you have to wait to the very end to try again, even if you knew by the second dragonkiller miss that you weren't going to get the boss down.
Also, as a side note, it should be pointed out that what is easy or hard varies from person to person. What may seem easy to you may not to someone else, and vice versa. My best example of this is when I was in a college course where I had to help someone CREATE A NEW FOLDER on a computer. Seemed like a complete no-brainer to me, but she had no clue what to do.
Alternatively, I point out the level 50 ROGs (not NIN) I remember seeing in the Meridium, level 40-something ACN (not SMN or SCH) in Stone Vigil, and the numerous folks who skip their class quests so they are missing key abilities. Not to mention the numerous NIN I've seen never use Huton.
So using a blanket statement like "nothing is hard" is not a fair point to make. To you, perhaps, nothing is hard (I might even think so, but then again I'm a former endgame WoW raider!). To someone else, a couple things might be (micromanaging Eos, for example!). To others, plenty of things might be (poor reaction times leading to eating a lot more AoEs than you think someone would!).