First off I want to say it was a neat event. I'm glad more folks are picking up on Othardian customs in general and using them for events and I'd love to see more. Heck my FC would be glad to do something similar as well given we've been doing some Othardian styled events (see Chrysanthemum Festival and the upcoming Moon Viewing).
I may not have had a hand in organizing this but I do get where you're coming from here. I got the sense that if we're going to include non-xaela in an event like this, the Steppe while thematically appropriate is not the best place for it to be done due to the lore clash. Granted it was done right outside of Reunion so it could be said that it was approved by the Qestir as an event under their rules and tolerance for outsiders so on the other hand the event works as is.
This creates the question of if they or anyone else were to run such an event on Eorzean soil would it have as much participation from the xaela players whose characters might be Steppe-bound? Would this essentially create the same problem in the opposite sense? (i.e. "why run a xaela centered event outside of the Steppe?")
There needs to be a compromise somewhere in the middle...I know when my FC runs Doman styled events it's done in Eorzea with the idea of "bringing the Far East to the West" as a sort of culture trade. That logic applied to last night's event, my character explained that perhaps the whole reason outsiders not being run off of the Steppe by native Steppe-dwellers was because foreign trade was picking up and the xaela while still being very wary of outsiders WOULD like access to foreign steel to give them an edge in combat.
(11-06-2017, 03:47 AM)Zhu Wrote: It's a great initiative but there were a few things that struck me as thematically incoherent:
The MSQ really presses on the fact that Xaela tribes (especially thoss that care of tradition) do not trust outsiders very much and a whole plotline is dedicated to earn that trust. And while the deeds of the WoL did inspire some progressiveness I still think that they would hesitate to include outsiders in an event like this unless they prooved themselves worthy of beign warriors of the steppes.
Moreover, the survival of the fittest mentality that steppes xaela have in lore seems to discourage a loser's bracket. Once defeated, you are bested and you'll be ztronger next time. I don't sse it as beign mean to people but it's just hos the theme of the race is presented. Just my two cents, of course.
If this community is to host a fully fledged Nadaam, staying true to the lore and the culture or each tribe should be a priority over appeasing to everyone. Outsiders could still make some sort of trial or even go through the same process the NPCs did to proove themselves to the tribes, so long as it's acknowledged that events like this are a big deal for each xaela.
Just my personal feedback, of course. I can still see why people prefered to not have it be race-specific and include everyone. Still a fun event.
PS. Typos because I'm on the phone.
I may not have had a hand in organizing this but I do get where you're coming from here. I got the sense that if we're going to include non-xaela in an event like this, the Steppe while thematically appropriate is not the best place for it to be done due to the lore clash. Granted it was done right outside of Reunion so it could be said that it was approved by the Qestir as an event under their rules and tolerance for outsiders so on the other hand the event works as is.
This creates the question of if they or anyone else were to run such an event on Eorzean soil would it have as much participation from the xaela players whose characters might be Steppe-bound? Would this essentially create the same problem in the opposite sense? (i.e. "why run a xaela centered event outside of the Steppe?")
There needs to be a compromise somewhere in the middle...I know when my FC runs Doman styled events it's done in Eorzea with the idea of "bringing the Far East to the West" as a sort of culture trade. That logic applied to last night's event, my character explained that perhaps the whole reason outsiders not being run off of the Steppe by native Steppe-dwellers was because foreign trade was picking up and the xaela while still being very wary of outsiders WOULD like access to foreign steel to give them an edge in combat.