Kurt S.

/kappa Welcome to the club, take a seat, stay awhile and listen.... Because someone here can draft up a better welcoming message than I can ;w; Anyway hope you find all that you're looking for and maybe a little more!

Ah well for that bit, I was wondering more on the universe's scope. Not "they" as roleplayers. But they as in all the other characters within the game and universe. Since we're pretty much variables that change with the definitions set in by the lore book or whoever's in charge of the lore. Like, if there's been any in game/universe evidence to support or refute that the dialect that they refer to is just as simple as slang/accent variations say between how two Americans from two different parts of America were to speak English. Or if they mean the broader scope when it's easy enough to think they're different languages. It's more of something that could incite further speculation. Maybe someone somewhere noticed something that might help support or further refute the lack of unique languages. Now this bit is just me showing how one could flow from not being able to speak the language to speaking like everyone else. My Xaela doesn't even understand a lick of Eorzean yet, much less speak it. So caveman speech is out of the question. Not that I'd do it for more than one session, my brain cries when I do it. If anything I want her to be fluent in it like the rest of my roster, but I feel like hand waving it feels like cheating when I can try to suffer my way to it. That there's hooks for scholars or cunning linguists to bite into it. Of course it's pretty obvious not everyone's into it. Workflow as follows: >Not being able to understand anything. (Like eyes glazed over and general anxiety that you might be wasting someone's time.) >Being able to understand it to some degree, that you finally put some words out. (Essentially caveman speech. At this point you'd probably know that Asshole doesn't actually mean Hello in Eorzean and that's probably why you were punched in the first place.) >Being able to pass for a normal speaker. (That you finally end up speaking like everyone else barring certain syntax errors.) I just thought maybe, in the vein that this is about language barriers, I could at least show a brief process of how I, as a non-native English speaker, got to the level of proficiency I do now. ^^^^^This bit here is the point of that section of the rant to begin with. If the conditions were as follows down here. vvvvv Again with the header above my little rant, it is all under the assumption that the scope of "Dialect" isn't as small and convenient as differing slang and accent of the same language. Under the assumption that no it isn't just as slight as North and South US English. That it may be like say, and I feel like a broken record, Mandarin and Cantonese.

Isn't Eorzea part of Aldenard, a continent? Doma to Othard, another continent? And Aldenard and Othard being continents of Hydaelyn which just happens to be named the same as the Mother Crystal? I mean at least I think that's how the flow goes. Could be (horribly) wrong.

So reading re-reading everything. And everyone's made good points by the way. After all that and poring through a logs I could dig up. I'm wondering what they refer to as "dialect." Again my question feeds back to my earlier post, and I don't seem to find much clarification on other sources. Would the dialect be as simple as say. How New Yorkers speak English versus say the English speaking English. Or do they mean dialect in the context of say, Mandarin to Cantonese or Fookien. Or in a more personal setting, Bisaya to Tagalog. Because the Philippines needs so many dialects they're pretty much indistinguishable to each other. Someone from the northern islands will never understand someone from the southern islands unless they undergo at least a year of study. And yet they're still called "dialects." Another bit of language barrier rp that I'd like to touch up on, this coming from someone who used to live and breathe language barriers because I had to spend more than 12 years trying to learn English, is sentence structure. It kinda struck a cord because for the longest time my grammar was (probably still is) horrible. I think it can excuse the Caveman talk. More on that at the bottom. As as an aside, I can't really count Sharlayans as a reliable benchmark seeing as they're the de facto "nerd" nation. Or so it is painted out. It would be remiss of them to NOT know other tongues. Of course I could be wrong. <<>>> As for Garleans they seem so widespread (Holdings in both Othard and Eorzea) and they strike me as so technologically advanced that the dissemination of information would be easy enough to achieve. That maybe it's easy or relatively easy enough to gain access to some database of languages within the provinces. No doubt dubbed "Dialect" too. <<>> Also as another observation. I think Caveman talk is quite acceptable, BUT easily rectified. The thing is, and I'm just regaling how our English classes taught English because we didn't know how English, it all depends on how they'd pick up the common tongue. I mean sentence structure's got Subjects and Predicates, right? Now if you take away the concept of pronouns or haven't introduced, say the Eorzean variant, to said character yet. Which I believe may happen. You're left with no substitutes but what you can comprehend out of the structure. It'd be rude to say the equivalent of "I" in your language to someone who doesn't already understand it. The idea is that you're probably going to want to be inclusive so everyone understands. Even if it's grating to ears or in this case, making the eyes bleed. So how's that going to play out? "Kurt think that good!" Simply because you're limited in your understanding but you still want that idea to come across as complete. Being messy is just a price for that. /rant Just in case anyone else would like to know from the perspective of a non-native English spokener. (bwahahaha)

Ah thanks for the input. All since I don't really use stand-ins for the words i just... Close them in <> or () or {} or [] and write normally. That way anyone with the echo could understand right away. I'll probably move on up to really broken common once she's gotten her bearings on it. Also the way I understand it is that these differences could be as wide as say Mandarin to Cantonese, or as narrow as uhh Australia to New Zealand. I mean I'm sure the difference between Aldenard regions with other Aldenard regions follows more pronunciation than anything else. Meanwhile say Othard to Aldenard could be mandarin to cantonese. There'd be similarities but it'd still be hard to get a grip on the language entirely without some time to get accustomed to it. Also let's not forget that we have the echo. Anyway just thought that maybe it'd be an interesting thing to add. A language barrier. Even though my timezone screws me out of it and it's not the smartest thing to do with my characters.

Curious if you guys like work that into your -insert foreigner status- character too? I mean like help add weight to the whole concept of being not really part of Eorzea. The language barrier I mean. I like to think it captures the whole idea of being a foreigner too, because it isn't enough to just be culture shocked and clueless. I mean one of the key points of my coast skink (Thanks KISS) is that she can't for the life of her speak Eorzean. Stuck with the old tongue that I'm probably assuming is going strong in all the tribes. Also curious, for those who do this anyway, if that affects your chances of getting rp? Walk-up mainly because planned is convenient in its own way.

3.4d AVAILABLE TIMES ARE UP! SUNDAY(Evening) - Before 9:30p EST. MONDAY(Evening) - After 9p EST.TUESDAY(Evening) - ANYTIME. WEDNESDAY(Evening) - ANYTIME. THURSDAY(Evening) - ANYTIME. FRIDAY(Evening) - Before 9:30p EST. SATURDAY(Evening) - ANYTIME. MORNING EDITS: SUN, MON, TUES - ANYTIME THURS, SAT - After 7a EST. WED, FRI - After 9a EST.

Because I have a xaelady who's currently working for Kiss as a cook. Sounds simple enough right? The clincher is that she's 100% Xaela Haragin Coastal Made, that she only understands barely a lick of Eorzean. So maybe I send a ping out here see if anyone bites. Someone who can speak both Eorzean and THIS BIT IS IMPORTANT>>>the Xaela/lic/lan, their dialect<< Available times: Any evening of the week barring early monday evenings. Like Nothing before uhh 9p EST. I can do mornings too. In fact that's better for me but evenings works fine! /convert timezones

I AM ALIVE AGAIN! K.Steel patch 3.4c partial changelog: -Allene Rose now turned into Nayaga Haragin, Coastal lizard with the inability to speak Eorzean. Expect language barrier rp. -Allene Rose has in fact died. Kaput, nada. Shanked and bled out, rest her soul. -Nah Amariyo is being rebooted. Possible character replacement too to accommodate Kurt's Older sister instead. Because Ninja. -Available times will be posted in the near future.

I'm all for discord rp's really. It'd beat the drought every evening for a few seconds ouo Thanks for the offers you two

Omaigadomaigadomaigad RPers on the same half of the planet as meeee Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh Would like to know active it is during evenings though. A singaporeannnnnnn or someone in the exact same timezone as me. Yaaaaasssssssss. I'm sorry, two years of empty searching..yeah...

Just putting out a feeler here in case you know there's some NA morning rper people, EU afternooners or hell West or East Aussie's/people in Asia that rp at night. (Basically EST morning people) Don't suppose I could interest you in my cast of characters? To rp with? I mean two of em can cook. One's kind of an engineer and the other one's busy bumbling around arcanima. One's sort of like a merc, the other one's kitchen staff first, courtesan second at KISS. One can fight, the other tries to fight but ends up resorting to really dirty tricks. There's some pets in it too, like a Red Panda or maybe a Dorf Rabbit. He's a jack of some trades, while she's a profiteer with an eye for squeezing gil out of a deal. Limsan and Ul'dahn. Oh right then there's also a comatose sun+moon catte, I'm just waiting for a reason to rouse her from her condition. Used to run a shop in Gridania with her dad but well can't really run a shop that's pretty much been sold to get some conjurer or something to wake her up. Open the box and you'll find toys of voidy goodness in the cereal.

Nothing like persuading the group to run 6 McCree's then the entire match to run 12 McCree's and have a show down in the route 66.

Sometimes you just come across things that elicit a wat. But then they're strangely entertaining. Enjoy S55K4NbVi_U

If you cant reach me on Kurt. You can probably look for Allene Rose. Yus. Those two seem to be the ones I use the most in equal measure. Also if anyone's interested. Mon thurs and Fri nights are a no go for me.