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The Sultana is not dead but very ill with the Syndicate in control as far as the masses are concerned. If you ask how fare the Sultansworn as a lvl50 PLD and have completed 2.55, Jenlyns says this at the end of his usual spiel.

"There have been other tales told in recent days, of course, but no one with an onze of common sense pays them any heed. If Her Grace were not convalsecing from illness, she would surely put an end to this madness. Alas, in her absence, the Monetarists are firmly in control..."

After asking "Who are the Monetarists?" he says...

"After everything that has happened, you ask me this? You should know full well that the Monetarists are a faction within the Syndicate - the organization which wields greater influence than the sultana herself. Their grip on power has never been stronger, now that General Raubahn has been confined to the Marasaja Pit for his crimes at the royal banquet. I fear that until the sultana recovers from her illness, Lord Lolorito and his minions will face little opposition. Yet it may be some time before that comes to pass. Her condition is so serious that even I have been denied an audience..."

From Commander Swift...

"Marshal Tarupin bade me relay this message to you. All knowledge of the incident is being withheld from the public, and things shall remain as they were in Ul'dah...at least on the surface. You doubtless burn to act - to see justice served. So do we all. However, we must bide our time, for a single misstep could trigger a civil war, and Ul'dah would tear itself apart."

Adding these by request.

Landebert: When a nation shakes, lowly folk like us are the first to feel it. Mark my words: something bad's happened in Ul'dah.
Landebert: The high lords and ladies are being tight-lipped about it, but that only serves to reveal how dire the situation is. I don't know what's afoot right now, but it'll lead to no good end.

Muttering Merchant: Since the victory feast, one consortium after another has been going under, and with nary any warning. Only the Syndicate has the power to do such a thing, but to what end? Could the rumors of revolution be true?

Nervous Nanny: Is it just me, or are there more soldiers on the streets of late? Everywhere I go, I feel as though I'm being watched. It's downright unsettling, I tell you.

Garrulous Gossipmonger: Oi, did ye hear? Some adventurer─an' a bleedin' famous one at that─went on a rampage durin' the victory feast. Fair tore down the Fragrant Chamber, 'tis said. Rumor has it (s)he's an imperial spy sent to do for the sultana.

Crystal Brave: <gasp> You shouldn't be here! If they find you, they'll arrest you like they did the others!
Crystal Brave: Look, I didn't see you, alright? If you know what's good for you, you'll put a hundred malms between yourself and Ul'dah.

Momodi: Twelve be praised, you're still alive and well! When I started hearin' rumors about what happened at the feast, I didn't know what to think.
Momodi: I tried gettin' answers, but the Brass Blades've made their rounds. Folk around here're carryin' on as though naught's changed.
Momodi: But deep down, they know it's a lie. It's only a matter of time before the questions come, and Lord Lolorito better have some good answers by then...

Rand: We've received some peculiar orders of late: we're to report any sightings of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.
Rand: I...I don't understand. Aren't they the ones who oppose the Empire and fight the primals? Aren't they on our side?

With these changes to the story - is there per chance anything that should be reflected in roleplay stances? I know for one that Gin herself will be very apprehensive of going to Ul'dah with the influx of soliders. 

I also need a bucket for all my tears.

(04-01-2015, 01:21 AM)Meena Wrote: [ -> ]With these changes to the story - is there per chance anything that should be reflected in roleplay stances? I know for one that Gin herself will be very apprehensive of going to Ul'dah with the influx of soliders. 

I also need a bucket for all my tears.

Chances are, unless you RP as the WoL or as some for of Flame/Blade law enforcement (or maybe a Monetarist), your average cityperson/adventurer may have noticed the influx of guards, but no other news. ...that's how I'm treating it at least. I don't think people would exactly spread rumors that the Sultana has been murdered by the MSQ hero.

(04-01-2015, 01:24 AM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-01-2015, 01:21 AM)Meena Wrote: [ -> ]With these changes to the story - is there per chance anything that should be reflected in roleplay stances? I know for one that Gin herself will be very apprehensive of going to Ul'dah with the influx of soliders. 

I also need a bucket for all my tears.

Chances are, unless you RP as the WoL or as some for of Flame/Blade law enforcement (or maybe a Monetarist), your average cityperson/adventurer may have noticed the influx of guards, but no other news. ...that's how I'm treating it at least. I don't think people would exactly spread rumors that the Sultana has been murdered by the MSQ hero.

But as adventurers are common place in Mor Dhona, world would of spread of the fates of other members of the Scions who have their base there, no? or of the events that occurred at the feast at least. At least rumors if nothing else.

no doubt they have a half baked excuse as to why the Blades are guarding it. 

this stuck out to me:

Quote:Crystal Brave: <gasp> You shouldn't be here! If they find you, they'll arrest you like they did the others!

They'll arrest you like they did the others. This to me says that some of the Scions may have been arrested, rather than killed (looking at Papalymo and Yda.)

The Sultana is definitely dead. Jenylns says that "even he isn't granted an audience" which means he doesn't know. He's been fed the lie of her death as 'sickness' and bought it.

As far as RPers go, Swift's statement that "You doubtless burn to act - to see justice served. So do we all." says to me that he's pissed underneath his exterior as well, and I can easily see that he'd be reaching out to trusted current or former members of the Flames to let them know what's happened. Because I can see open warfare coming and I'm sure he can too.

I am so glad I started the process of moving Erik out of the Sworn. I have been talking to people about it alot lately. IC I would say Erik knows just what everyone else does.... nothing beyond public knowledge. His Sworn title is mostly for the sake of his current job.

It seems though people are aware of the General's spot in the slammer. That seems to be the common knowledges from what I read above.

(04-01-2015, 03:19 AM)Chris Ganale Wrote: [ -> ]The Sultana is definitely dead. Jenylns says that "even he isn't granted an audience" which means he doesn't know. He's been fed the lie of her death as 'sickness' and bought it.

Of course she's dead (as far as we know - they might pull a "yoink, gotcha!" thing with her in 3.0 later), but her sickness is the official story fed to the public for the time being.

(04-01-2015, 03:09 AM)Nakoli Chalahko Wrote: [ -> ]This to me says that some of the Scions may have been arrested, rather than killed (looking at Papalymo and Yda.)

Yeah, I figure most of the no-name/small-name Scions were arrested.

As for Yda, Papalymo, Thancred, Y'Shtola and Minfilia... You don't think they're really dead, do you? I think it's blatantly obvious their "sacrifice" was a fake-out and that we'll see them again in 3.0. I'll be extremely surprised if any of them will actually be confirmed dead.

"Ah, my faithful assistant. Though the details have quite slipped my mind, I was told 
you were involved in some outrageous incident at the royal palace. 
Why waste your time on such frivolities, when you could be exploring the 
uncharted regions of advanced alchemy!? 
If any seek to interrupt your research, then you need merely douse the knave
with the most suitable concoction at hand! Mwahaha! 
The practical application of results is at the heart of our dicipline!"
- Severian, Alchemist guildmaster

"Ah, Miss Quill. We meet again. 
... Mayhap you wonder why I do not call for the Brass blades? Please. 
Your virtue is more intact than that of a maiden at the altar. 
So-- What brings you here today?"
- Weaver guildmaster 

"Nailah! What in Thal's name are you doing here!? You're wanted by the Brass Blades! 
Look, all of us here at the guild will help you in whatever way we can 
But there's only so much we can do. Promise you'll lay low, alright?"
- Adalberta, Miner GM

"Nailah! Are the rumors true? Are you the victim of a vast conspiracy!? 
Oh dear, I probably shouldn't speak so loudly... 
I've given thought to how we might distract your pursuers. 
Perhaps a mammet fashion in your image which nods at regular intervals? No? 
Hmmm... I was rather proud of that idea... "
- Serendipity, Goldsmith GM 

The last one, beyond being useful for rumors, made me laugh xD 
It seems there's some knowledge going about among the GM's of the crafter guilds. I spoke to the THM guild as well but there was no reaction there. Based on this I'd be inclined to believe those of a higher social status might have a better clue that something is definitely up since GM's are pretty influential and that. However it could very well be that they would not speak of this to any other than the hero of light.

There are similar reaction with any craft or gather GM in the other city states, though these are a bit more muted and not so detailed.

Okay, so, let me try to see if I can sum this up as bluntly as a I can so I feel like I kindamaybesortof understand this.


1.) People on all levels are hearing rumors of something bad happening in Ul'Dah.

2.) The merchant nobles/upper class know something bad has happened and might know the truth, but aren't telling anyone, anything.

3.) The Brass Blades, as an organization, are evil.

4.) The Immortal Flames oppose the Brass Blades.

5.) Normal Flames would not know the news, High Ranking Flames like Swift would.

6.) The Sultansworn are in the dark about what happened.

7.) Businesses are being shut down.


Is that all right?

(04-01-2015, 07:17 AM)Ryanti Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, so, let me try to see if I can sum this up as bluntly as a I can so I feel like I kindamaybesortof understand this.


1.) People on all levels are hearing rumors of something bad happening in Ul'Dah.

2.) The merchant nobles/upper class know something bad has happened and might know the truth, but aren't telling anyone, anything.

3.) The Brass Blades, as an organization, are evil.

4.) The Immortal Flames oppose the Brass Blades.

5.) Normal Flames would not know the news, High Ranking Flames like Swift would.

6.) The Sultansworn are in the dark about what happened.

7.) Businesses are being shut down.


Is that all right?

sounds about right i wouldn't be surprised if the Sultansworn would be left in the dark.

(04-01-2015, 03:09 AM)Nako Wrote: [ -> ]They'll arrest you like they did the others. This to me says that some of the Scions may have been arrested, rather than killed (looking at Papalymo and Yda.)

Or the Braves that weren't following the plot.

Keep in mind, only the 1st and the 3rd were directly controlled. 2nd and the 4th could have been in on it, but were pretty hands off about the thing.

I personally know that Kellach would not view the addition of more brass blades as anything good.

(04-01-2015, 07:33 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: [ -> ]2nd and the 4th could have been in on it, but were pretty hands off about the thing.

I personally know that Kellach would not view the addition of more brass blades as anything good.

Good catch about the 2nd and 4th. I also remember a few Brass Blades in the Ul'Dah starting quests during the level 15 range. There was a few bad apples, but also really good people. Like the Lalafell who became a Captain or whatnot in Horizon.

I'm not exactly convinced that the 2nd and 4th didn't have a part in it, but there's certainly members of the Brass Blades that wouldn't do something like this, or are being forced to in fear of their livelihoods.