To each their own. But disappointing she has to call it "her" community. It's a linkshell, not a community as the RPC nor Intermission are communities either. Sorry, just that one comment in her post irked me a bit. But I guess we'll see if it simply ends there or if we continue to face slander. That said maybe this topic should be locked now that it's served its purpose. We don't need them accusing us of trying to slander them either by keeping the discussion going.
The sheer amount of hypocrisy pushed out by their leaders will see to it things spiral out of control, if I've seen anything in my years of MMO gaming. I mean, just the other day I heard from one of their former officers that they were kicked because they suspected of being a "spy". I can understand why some of our members might be concerned, but I really don't think it's necessary. The fact that our community at one point had over one thousand registered members speaks enough. We are in no threat of being "brought to our knees", and the fact that they seek to do so shows just how immature their leadership truly is. It might be a light thorn in our side, but anyone worth having in our community will not pass judgement on us just because some random linkshell says we're bad guys.
Suffice it to say, even if these bullies choose to target you - as they have us, among other linkshells, I would suggest you take the moral high road and turn a deaf ear to them. The fact that they are discouraging drama on one end, and forcing it out the other says enough that attempting to resolve this just won't work until they realize what they are actually doing. I think it would be best to just let them do whatever they want, and to leave ourselves out of the equation.
If no one else has anything to add, I suppose this can be locked and removed - barring approval from the other mods. I don't want to pluck this out if the others feel there's more discussion to be had, or if this is something that should be open for all to see.
At this point I'd encourage people to simply ignore any ill comments they make about the RPC, Intermission, or any other RP shell. Let them do their own thing and further isolate themselves on their own, because that's exactly what they're doing. It's a waste of energy to give them any further attention. I'm beginning to think that's all this ever was to begin with--a grab for attention in an attempt to gain more members. In my 7+ years of RPing in MMO's, I have never encountered anything quite like this. Just let them do their thing, even if it does involve slandering us. Any individual with common sense will forge their own opinion based on their own experience, rather than allow someone to tell them how to feel about someone/something. Their linkshell is quite young in comparison to some here, and FAR younger than the RPC as a whole. They have much to learn still, and at this point they're on their own in doing so.
Long story short, don't feed the trolls anymore >.>. Clearly their leaders are just fishing for attention...made clear by the fact that their linkshell was practically unheard of by most prior to all of these bizarre events.
I really, really think in addition to just not responding to any further posts by them (because our responses do nothing but fan the flames), we should just lock, possibly even just delete these threads and not bring it up anymore. There's a post on the official forums that has degraded into more of this, and no matter how logical our reasoning with them is, every response we give just makes things worse.
Like you said Kylin, this has been GREAT publicity for them. Don't let them continue to use us like that. We shouldn't let them bother us. We tried to reach out to them, it didn't work, they want to isolate themselves. That's their choice, and those who join their shell agree to it too. Let's move on.
This makes me sad, really sad. I made some friends over there recently and now I'm worried when I come back from my trip that I won't be allowed to talk to them anymore because of this. I really hope this blows over quickly and we can all go back to having fun playing with each other.
Very disappointed to see this kind of behavior on Magistra's part. :/ Brings to mind an ages-old question: "Can't we all just get along?" Depressing. :/
Nel Celestine Wrote:This makes me sad, really sad. I made some friends over there recently and now I'm worried when I come back from my trip that I won't be allowed to talk to them anymore because of this. I really hope this blows over quickly and we can all go back to having fun playing with each other.
According to a post response Nanamix (Did I get that right?) made in his recruitment thread there won't be actions preventing player interaction between their members and non-members belonging to other shells. I've been reacted to twice by a member of theirs, (A brief RP twice and I helped heal them as they did leves.) and there was no hostility at all. Hopefully we can all get along and just bury this whole thing forever. I'm going to myself make an effort to restrain from any comments and I hope everyone else will too. But you should be able to hang out with those friends Nel, and if you can't because of this, it's really messed up.
Simply put, so long as everyone is mature there should be no issues about playing with members of the community. If people are quick to refuse to play or talk to you based on hearsay, are they people you really want to be hanging out with in the first place? We're all (mostly all) adults here. I'd imagine that this can be buried and allowed to fade back into obscurity. If members still have problems with the RPC or Intermission, it's not our problem, it's their own. Anyways, my two cents.
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Not to drag about and beat a dead horse buuuut, they've issued an apology.
Quote:Dear Role Players of Balmung,
I, Arturia Saber, come to you speaking on behalf of myself and several other invaluable leaders to our link shell The Magistra. We four have come to the notion that our exclusivity has caused much drama within the role playing community of our server. It has come to the point where we have held a meeting and have decided that it would be best for us to separate ourselves from our current shell and begin anew under a different leadership. We would like to create a shell that encourages role playing with others, and multiple shell ownership will be acceptable. I, personally, apologize profusely to those who we have outright rejected from our social circle within FFXIV. I do not expect forgiveness, but I would like you to know that I am sorry, and was always acting under orders. I believe our actions have put me to shame concerning our exclusivity, I do not desire this, which is why I, have decided that it would be best to join under a new name along with Kurisutina Rintarou, Anna Volfield, and Whispering Wind of Balmung. We will be the new leaders of a great community that encourages regular activity, friendship, working together, role playing, and participating on friendly terms with others in the role playing community of Balmung. Any members that come into our new link shell will be welcome to join other link shells, and even keep The Magistra under their names, but that is their choice. I simply wish for happiness and peace for all of us, and to begin anew on friendly terms for the benefit of each other. Again, I, Arturia Saber of the Balmung Server apologize, and I hope that this new step will help to amend those grievances that we may have brought upon the role playing community.
A personal message from Kurisutina Rintarou:
I, Kurisutina Rintarou, have decided to leave The Magistra. I believe that the community that I once knew and loved is not the same as it once was. I feel that The Magistra is trying too hard to become a well known link shell as opposed to the family environment where we all loved and knew each other. I used to sign on and know every person that was in the link shell, and now I only know about 20 out of 90, and only talk to about 10 of them. I do not like the turn that The Magistra has taken. All of this drama has gotten way out of hand, and I apologize profusely for it.~ I do not believe that anything that I can do personally will help to fix everything, but I hope that time will heal all wounds so that we can more actively participate in the role playing communities of Balmung and not be so exclusive from other link shells. I have felt for some time that The Magistra literally goes out of its way to attack other link shells, and I do not believe this is right. V_V I only want people to be happy, and right now, the people I love most are not happy. Which is why I would like to start this new link shell along with Arturia Saber, Anna Volfield, and Whispering Wind of the Balmung server.~ I think this is a turn for the better. I hope that the role playing communities of Balmung will accept us and role play with us. ^^
A personal message from Anna Volfield:
^^ This. Also.
I think The Magistra has gotten way out of hand. We work so hard to build something up under a leadership we think is great, and for what? To be hated by other link shells? I think it's time that we STOP all of this drama and make a new link shell. This is getting to be ridiculous, and I personally apologize for any attacks we have made against anyone. (Not saying names, but you know who you are.) After the meeting with Saber, Kuris, and Wind, I think it's time we build a new link shell under a new leadership that is based off of more acceptable rules. We don't want to be under a dictatorship. This is just a game, and we have offended so many for being so exclusive, and I apologize for that. I apologize to everyone. I apologize to The Magistra, to other link shells we may have offended, to my friends, my family, and anyone else in Balmung. I apologize to those people who have just read this entire wall of text and have no idea what is going on and is not even included in this! I apologize... I have only ever acted under the directions of authority. Perhaps I should have done a little more and stepped up a little sooner before this got out of hand. But we will fix it NOW. I am the kind of person who goes out of my way to help others. I don't want people to hate us anymore. Please forgive us. We hope to make this new link shell a place that people have good images about mentally, and that people WANT to join. That's all I have to say.
A personal message from Whispering Wind:
I am writing this formal letter of apology for not seeing with eyes unclouded and for not leaving sooner, before things got so out of hand. I have grown close to some of the individuals and have considered them as close as a real family. Things have happened or supposedly happened and it has started a feud of sorts. What has transpired is petty, unnecessary, and childish. It should not have even come to this. If two people have a disagreement, fine, deal with it between yourselves. There is no need to drag others into it, much less entire link shells. I am leaving Magistra Empire as it has become a link shell I am not proud to be in any longer. I have extremely high standards of honor and I believe that there are things that should not be said in public chat or link shell chat, as we don't know anyone's age, beliefs, or customs and certain things are considered offensive to others and some should not be spoken of in front of children. I treat others as I want to be treated- with honor and respect. However, the rules that were laid out about respecting others has been made a joke and I can't abide by that, nor can I tolerate it. The link shell I cared for is no longer the link shell I helped create. It has become a degradation and more closely resembles a brothel. I will not be a part of this, nor will I associate with such. People are free to live their lives as they wish, but subjecting others to this type of lifestyle in link shell chat which is against the rules, and being asked repeatedly to refrain from such behavior in link shell chat shows those individuals have no respect for others or whether there are children present. I have no wish nor desire to be in a link shell of that nature, nor around those individuals.
source:
http://anime-faction.umforum.net/t431-ap...-community
That said and done, can we lock this and put this behind us now?
I can't say that I'm pleased to have seen this happen and for a linkshell to lose so many people over such a silly thing. However I am glad that everyone has let cooler heads prevail and apologized, I personally have no hard feelings and would like to see everyone get along. Now, please lock this thread.
I'm happy to see things being resolved. Seeing as this thread has run it's course,I'll lock it up now and leave it to Kylin or another moderator to move it and/or delete it if they see fit.
I'd really like to see them join us here on the RPC. After all, we're about equal representation. The RPC exists not only to connect our linkshells, but every single roleplayer - from freelancers to linkshell leaders. While we're not the only community, we're a strong one.