12-09-2016, 10:27 PM
(12-09-2016, 07:37 PM)Thecrystalprelude Wrote: [ -> ]Valence. The only time that Cuchulainn is even mentioned is in FF12. But he's like an esper or boss there. Not a warrior of light.
Think Valence was referencing the lore for XIV's Cuchulainn:
Encyclopedia Eorzea pg300 Wrote:One theory places the void's formation in the hands of champions such as Cuchulainn who wielded a stone known as "auracite" to conquer their plane's primals. The weapon, however, possessed a fatal imperfection: a propensity to bleed primal energies. With each victory, the heroes changed, transforming at last into fiends of endless appetite. Insatiable in their hunger for aether, they ultimately went to war over the star's ever-dwindling life force. It was during this war that the Flood of Darkness was unleashed.
(12-09-2016, 08:16 PM)Kilieit Wrote: [ -> ]Show Contentup to 3.4 and also lore book spoilersSo you know the espers of FF12 are Scions of Darkness, right? Well, they each have a Scion of Light assigned to them, which never appears in-game in FF12. But...
Well, some of those names seem kinda familiar, right?
We know that Cúchulainn in FFXIV is from the 13th Shard, and so is Nabriales. Other named Ascians include Lahabrea, who seems to be from the Source (does this mean "Mateus" is the canon name for the PC WoL?), Igeyorhm (not from the 13th or the Source, but had a hand in the 13th's demise), and Pashtarot... and, uh, randomly, Elidibus. But we'll ignore that, since he seems to be a bit of an outlier in other ways too.
We also know Zodiark as the Ascians' god in FF14, as a crystal who seems to be equal+opposite to Hydaelyn, the Mother Crystal. Zodiark's star-sign in FF12 is Orphiuchus, which the trinket Lahabrea was obsessed with at the end of 2.0 is a star within. A certain someone else is a nearby constellation, too - the snake that the "snake-bearer" is supposed to be holding, I think.
This connection between the Scions of Light from XII and the Ascians of XIV has been made before, but was ultimately given an answer by Fernehalwes.
Fernehalwes Wrote:Oh, man. This is not as cool an answer as you’re expecting. Final Fantasy is about borrowing, taking things other Final Fantasies did and adjusting it and making it your own. The fact that the XIV team has a lot of people that worked on XII—our main scenario writer, Maehiro-san, also worked on XII, Minagawa-san, the guy that did all of the UI, also XII, he’s working with us, and also Yoshida-san himself being a fan of Final Fantasy XII—this is one of the games they wanted to borrow heavily from because they thought it was really cool, and they really liked the imagery and lore that it had. So they want to borrow from it, and of course they know Final Fantasy XII has its story, and they don’t want to take that story and put it into XIV, because it’s not XIV, it’s XII, but they want to draw on that imagery and those connections. It’s not random, but it might not be as deep a meaning as you think it is.