How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there
before people actually move in.
[I JUST REALIZED. One of the community leads had already posted the information to the Faerie Server so my apologies for posting again her name is Lynaea Flores on here]
Home Server- Faerie
Well I'm not the community leader for Faerie RP but I did work with them on getting RP community up and running or unification efforts. I let them know this thread was going on at the moment but they are all busy currently I believe so i'm posting this here for now. The last few weeks before the Server Transfer "Ban" started we have been uniting rpers for our Server. We currently have an FF RP Faerie Enjin Website, Faerie RP Discord Server with approx 40 members and RP LS with about 50 members. Not a lot I know but we have made good progress on uniting rpers who are on the server so far and getting everyone active with each other. Attempting to hold weekly events in different public areas to spread the awareness of RP on our server. So if anyone would like to add Faerie to the poll please do so! We'd love to have more rpers join our growing community. IF anyone is interested you can give me a ping on here or on Discord
Ink#4262 and I can send you an invite to the RP Discord. I will post a Link to the RP Enjin Website as well below for anyone interested. Just keep in mind its all new and we are still growing!
https://ffxiv-faerie-rp.enjin.com/
(05-17-2017, 09:28 PM)Aysun Wrote: [ -> ]Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.
I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.
Previously, RPC did feature split sections for Balmung and Gilgamesh for events, directories, etc. They were later merged when it became apparent that most of the posts were only coming from Balmung. This was also when we implemented server prefixes for those forums, so that users could select from not only Balmung and Gilgamesh, but other servers that were being used at the time. (I plan to add Mateus as soon as I finish this post and another). We can split them back into separate forums, but that comes with a readability cost. Either we'd have subforums per server for the designated servers, or we'd have a larger forum list, which is also about as daunting. Our proposed move to InvisionPower does help with some of this, as it has built-in support for multiple tags, a prefix, and best of all, FILTERING.
Given that some of the boards (like the Town Center) aren't moving particularly fast right now, splitting any boards is on hold until we know more about the server people are willing to put the work into growing. That's not a RPC Staff decision because the staff arbitrarily picking a server is no more useful than any other single person offering a server. On that note, it's honestly up to users to promote which servers they'd like and on the RPC, we'll do what we can to help those then get noticed. A lot of our split sections are running on some severely delicate custom code that doesn't scale well. (That filtering in the Halls? All custom. It requires making about 10 extra forum-specific templates that all can't conflict with each other and must be updated manually. They also can't be imported correctly to anything else because it's all handled through a special plugin).
(05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)Zhavi Wrote: [ -> ]How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Â Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.
I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.
I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.
From what I've seen, I'm rather in favor of Mateus. The community thus far has been friendly, open, engaging, and just the right balance between creative and lore-adhering. Its also quite supportive. The RPC Discord is fairly in-depth and thorough.
(05-17-2017, 10:11 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 09:28 PM)Aysun Wrote: [ -> ]Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.
I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.
snip
Requiring users to select on of the tags, listing the main servers that are noted for RP as well as an "other" could help. I think with the new boards with filtering actually splitting the boards would be unneeded.
(05-17-2017, 10:17 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)Zhavi Wrote: [ -> ]How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Â Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.
I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.
I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.
It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.
(05-17-2017, 10:34 PM)Aysun Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:11 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 09:28 PM)Aysun Wrote: [ -> ]Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.
I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.
snip
Requiring users to select on of the tags, listing the main servers that are noted for RP as well as an "other" could help. I think with the new boards with filtering actually splitting the boards would be unneeded.
That's something we can actually force on IPS. ...on MyBB, a fancy plugin does all the prefixes and tag-ish things elsewhere. ...it's really powerful, but it has certain limitations. ...all the relevant places should have prefix options though. ...although title text ones can be just as handy in our filtering-not-possible sections like events and directories.
(05-17-2017, 10:52 PM)Kage Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:17 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)Zhavi Wrote: [ -> ]How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Â Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.
I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.
I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.
It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.
Is that what started it all...
Gods.... I feel like bring out my rocking chair now with my cane and going "I remember back in 1.0 on Besaid... We didn't worry about no fuddle duddle RP tags. If you were looking for RP, you just had to go searching for it... with the lag and sometimes zones trying to eat your computer. Mmhm." XD
(05-17-2017, 11:02 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:52 PM)Kage Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:17 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)Zhavi Wrote: [ -> ]How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Â Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.
I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.
I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.
It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.
Is that what started it all...
Gods.... I feel like bring out my rocking chair now with my cane and going "I remember back in 1.0 on Besaid... We didn't worry about no fuddle duddle RP tags. If you were looking for RP, you just had to go searching for it... with the lag and sometimes zones trying to eat your computer. Mmhm." XD
That, and the official forum's general populace posting has always been a "Balmung's issues are created by Balmung itself." No matter if people were there because of the Besaid merger etc.
Just don't let the official forums' posters represent a sample of who you will see in-game. They're just another example of a vocal minority.
Does Mateus' RP community have any representation on tumblr? Or Faerie's? Other's? I know Balmung's RP community is barely represented in part by those here on RPC (hydaelyn roleplayers coalition, this site here). I know there's a sizeable portion of Balmung roleplayers on tumblr.
Would it be possible to gather some of those communities to come and speak about themselves here?
I'd happily do my part in getting Mateus off the ground as a secondary RP server. I just started about a week ago, so I don't have any deep ties to Balmung, or a house or excess money to lose, and my friend who was locked out of transferring to Balmung by this closure (his necessary "character must exist for three days" being during the downtime) would be able to transfer onto there with me so we could play together.
$18 is a block but Mateus has my support and very real consideration in hopping over.Â
Personally I had already planned to switch my character to Mateus. But if it's being voted for another rp server count my lot into the mix. The little time I've had on the server to meet folks and just the general chatter and being kept informed on the site has been amazing. ^^ They have a nice community there and it'd be nice to see it grow a bit. I just hope there isn't a sudden flood..
Off topic question.. anyone have an idea of what servers would be free transfer? That would help if it happened to be either of the serves listed here.
(05-17-2017, 11:09 PM)Kage Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 11:02 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:52 PM)Kage Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:17 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)Zhavi Wrote: [ -> ]How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?
"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...ost4144695
Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Â Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.
I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.
I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.
It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.
Is that what started it all...
Gods.... I feel like bring out my rocking chair now with my cane and going "I remember back in 1.0 on Besaid... We didn't worry about no fuddle duddle RP tags. If you were looking for RP, you just had to go searching for it... with the lag and sometimes zones trying to eat your computer. Mmhm." XD
That, and the official forum's general populace posting has always been a "Balmung's issues are created by Balmung itself." No matter if people were there because of the Besaid merger etc.
Just don't let the official forums' posters represent a sample of who you will see in-game. They're just another example of a vocal minority.
Does Mateus' RP community have any representation on tumblr? Or Faerie's? Other's? I know Balmung's RP community is barely represented in part by those here on RPC (hydaelyn roleplayers coalition, this site here). I know there's a sizeable portion of Balmung roleplayers on tumblr.
Would it be possible to gather some of those communities to come and speak about themselves here?
My knowledge, given I created the RPC, we are here on Hydaelyn forums and we have a discord. That is the scope of US. I don't really do social medias and I hate facebook. When we spoke about doing a facebook, it was discouraged by the community early on because we have Discord.
Discord is our major HUB for-- everything.
(05-17-2017, 11:14 PM)Rosekitten Wrote: [ -> ]Off topic question.. anyone have an idea of what servers would be free transfer? That would help if it happened to be either of the serves listed here.
I don't think a list has been given yet.
(05-17-2017, 11:15 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ]Discord is our major HUB for-- everything.
Given the nature of Discord and the fact that it has been hacked a number of times as of late; I'd highly suggest not putting eggs into one basket. That's with anything really. If folks have a tumblr tag in addition that probably would help things.