Hydaelyn Role-Players

(06-14-2017, 05:42 PM)Gen Quickpaw Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah pardon if I came across as a bit harsh after apologies had been made, I started writing the post and got sidelined by dinner before I finished it. Should have re-read the thread before posting


And good luck! Might visit in a bit... after I've inhaled the whole Stormblood :3

You're all good! Again apologies for seeming like I was trying to burn down Balmung or something. xDD I more than anything just want to see FFXIV become a bigger place for RP, and have some of the community spread out and share the love through smaller servers is all. I would have never left Balmung if I didn't think Mateus had as much potential as it does, because there are plenty of great rpers and great fcs. 

Hope you visit sometime ^^ More than happy to have people come check it out and see if they like it!

(06-14-2017, 05:42 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 05:40 PM)Erah Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 03:09 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]

Question: Well what about my house! My gil! I spent a good amount of time and money on those things I'll have you know!

A: As mentioned in the previous question, FC estates are transferred over if you move. That being said, this also applies to anyone who owns an estate or apartment in the game. 

This is, as of today's post by SE, absolutely wrong.

FC's do not currently transfer at all.  There is no current FC transfer method. FC houses are not reimbursed.  Estates do not currently transfer at all. Personal estates are reimbursed.  

This is something on SE's wish list but, ye gods, fact check your stuff.

 

I already changed it to where It was you getting reimbursed for your estate. If you read the entire answer, I messed up the first part but later go in to say you get reimbursed for your estate. I forgot to edit the first part when changed that from the statement posted by Square. Again, apologies.

It's still a bit wrong.  

You don't get reimbursed for an FC estate currently at all.  Best way to handle it is to probably sell the estate (or the FC in total) have the FC lead transfer with the gil and start the FC on the new server again.

It sucks, but currently you lose all airship progress and the FC needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.  (read: grind to rank 6 to buy a new FC house)

(06-14-2017, 05:52 PM)Erah Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 05:42 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 05:40 PM)Erah Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 03:09 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]

Question: Well what about my house! My gil! I spent a good amount of time and money on those things I'll have you know!

A: As mentioned in the previous question, FC estates are transferred over if you move. That being said, this also applies to anyone who owns an estate or apartment in the game. 

This is, as of today's post by SE, absolutely wrong.

FC's do not currently transfer at all.  There is no current FC transfer method. FC houses are not reimbursed.  Estates do not currently transfer at all. Personal estates are reimbursed.  

This is something on SE's wish list but, ye gods, fact check your stuff.

 

I already changed it to where It was you getting reimbursed for your estate. If you read the entire answer, I messed up the first part but later go in to say you get reimbursed for your estate. I forgot to edit the first part when changed that from the statement posted by Square. Again, apologies.

It's still a bit wrong.  

You don't get reimbursed for an FC estate currently at all.  Best way to handle it is to probably sell the estate (or the FC in total) have the FC lead transfer with the gil and start the FC on the new server again.

It sucks, but currently you lose all airship progress and the FC needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.  (read: grind to rank 6 to buy a new FC house)

I just want to quote something verbatim from the SE site (http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/...e7c4fe2596) stating this so correct me if i'm wrong but:


Bonuses for owners of personal housing/apartments

• Personal housing
  Reimbursement for the full price of the estate, plus compensation of 3,000,000 gil for non-recoverable furnishings
  
  Please apply for a World transfer after removing your estate hall and furnishings, but DO NOT relinquish the land. If you have relinquished the deed to your plot, you will not be eligible to receive the bonuses outlined above.
  
  
  
  
• Apartments
  Reimbursement of the 500,000 gil price, and compensation of 500,000 gil for non-recoverable furnishings
  
  Please apply for a World transfer after removing your furnishings, but DO NOT vacate the apartment. If you have relinquished the rights to your property, you will not be eligible to receive the bonuses outlined above.
  
  
  

Now at the end it does list this: 


"We plan to continue introducing new incentives and updates following the release of 4.0, including bonuses to accommodate the transfer of entire free companies and free company housing."

so for now yes, FCs are getting a bit shafted, but they ARE reimbursing individual houses and apts with the intention of said quote above. Hopefully airships and ranks can be salvaged once they figure that part out.

(06-14-2017, 05:58 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]Bonuses for owners of personal housing/apartments

Yeah, personal houses are covered fine.  (I linked the same post in an edit to my original reply earlier) FC estates just don't get to play by those rules yet since you can't actually transfer an FC at this time.

One day, SE will probably change this and it'll be all good.  No idea when yet though.

(06-14-2017, 06:02 PM)Erah Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 05:58 PM)YaraLyehga Wrote: [ -> ]Bonuses for owners of personal housing/apartments

Yeah, personal houses are covered fine.  (I linked the same post in an edit to my original reply earlier) FC estates just don't get to play by those rules yet since you can't actually transfer an FC at this time.

One day, SE will probably change this and it'll be all good.  No idea when yet though.

From what it sounds like they wish to do this sooner than later. I really hope that is the case so that others whom wish to try a new server but do not wish to uproot everything they know can do so without any repercussions. It's hard to uproot a solid foundation, especially when you've been there for a long time, have close friends, etc. I totally get that. So here is to hoping Yoshi-P makes it simple and easy for FCs to transfer if they so desire to do so.

Before we go down another dark, deep road of finger pointing and nay-saying, lets remember that we are a Roleplay community no matter what server we choose or where we are. Yes, there are going to be individuals who don't like this and there will always be individuals who don't like the "roleplay" crowd, but in the end, we are-- no matter what server we are on-- a community.

That is what these forums were originally designed for and really the segregation, while human nature at times, doesn't need to be brought within a form of entertainment. We are all here to have fun.

Given I am someone who started the RPM and started the push to Mateus- including been dealing with naysayers for nearly-- what feels like a month now. I do have to silently wonder how much longer will folks continue to beat this dead horse.

There is nothing wrong with growth. I am glad to see this guy post this thread, because it shows that the growth is moving outside of the RPM. This whole thing on Mateus has shown, with a strong, friendly, willing community, other smaller servers can step up.

And we all, in the end, need to remember what we are here to do, as a community. Tell stories and have fun. Not throw stones and sticks at one another. I mean, hey, if that is what you want to do in the end-- No one can tell you no, but... yeah.

Thanks all for being positive support on this subject thus far. Those of you who are. You are amazing.

That also said, yes, the RPM has 128 members on 1 LS, we have 108 members on the 2nd, around 50 alts on the alt ls, and we have nearly 90+ members listed in the hub (which is not the RPM, but still part of the friendly rp arm of the community)

Now let us eat cake and cheese, cause Stormblood is near!

(06-14-2017, 07:55 PM)foxfirestorm Wrote: [ -> ]That also said, yes, the RPM has 128 members on 1 LS, we have 108 members on the 2nd, around 50 alts on the alt ls, and we have nearly 90+ members listed in the hub (which is not the RPM, but still part of the friendly rp arm of the community)

Now let us eat cake and cheese, cause Stormblood is near!

Man, soon as I see Mateus on that designated list, I hope to add myself and my RP buddy into that hub!

<3

(well, whenever is doable -- with SB goin' on I know adding people will get crazy, haha.)

I have a character idea I'm workshopping on this very forum that I plan to bring over to Mateus should it be on the list! And with all those bonuses, it might not take long at all to get him all leveled up and set to play! Kinda getting stoked about it.

What everyone needs to remember is that we are all role players and we are all simply indulging in what we love and enjoy- story, characters and interaction.  

Mateus. Balmung. Omega.  They're all just different streets in the same neighborhood with people who have the same goals and desires. Yes, it is important to focus on our own street to keep it clean, friendly and fun. However, it does not change the fact that we are all part of the same neighborhood and supporting each other helps such a community and in turn, our own individual streets.  

Just because you RP on Balmung, does not mean you cannot create an alt and dance over on Mateus and have some fun there. Sure, there might be a slightly different feel because all people are different and no two crowds are the same. That is part of the fun though, no? Of course, Balmung is closed at the moment but that does not prevent a future Omega RPer from striking up a fun RP on the forums here with people from Mateus or Balmung or indulging in some Discord shenanigans.  

In the end... we all want the same thing. Entertaining and satisfying RP that caters to our tastes and fulfills our fun meter.  


SO! With that corpse of a horse being continuously beaten, please keep in mind to refrain comparing yourselves by servers and instead focus on the core values and positives. You will gain far more attention, pleasantness and love if you refrain from unnecessary negative points or language that places such things on a scale. That doesn't mean don't be practical, but just keep it in mind. 

Mateus seems like a fantastic server and I plan on rolling a character with a friend over there to frolic around and have some fun. The best part about multiple places with RP is that I view it as having many, many playgrounds and outlets to enjoy if I need to get away or try something different once and while! I am just so happy that there are new RPers showing up and the whole role playing community is bolstering with new possibilities in the face of changes to Balmung's creation.   It doesn't matter if you're only RPing a little bit here or there, if you've been at a place forever or if you're just getting your feet wet- as long as people continue to role play, create wonderful characters and stories... then it's a win for all of us. 

Just remember to stay vigilant, stay positive and supporting your fellows in return supports yourself.

If I can just add a short response here (without touching on anything else that's been said already), Mateus has been my first RP experience on FF. As someone who was not only new to the server, but new to the game entirely, I've had nothing but good to say so far about the patience, friendliness, and overall welcoming vibe of the community so far.

Not much to add, just thought a lurking newbie might be happy to know a fellow newbie came to Mateus and got along fine. Cheers mates.

Personally I have made a character on Mateus away from Balmung.

From Balmung I have memories I will cherish and friendships never forgotten.

So far on Mateus my experience has been very positive, even if I have not really RPed with anyone due to work. 
Yet the community and connections I have made have been very positive, everyone is friendly and kind. Yes the community is small but it is growing and I look forwards to see where it goes.

Eva~

Since Mateus has been confirmed as a location for free transfers, I'll be moving a couple characters over soon.

Tell me more about Mateus.

2 things, without derailing the topic too much... What's the issue with Balmung beyond it's popularity and difficulty in getting in?

Second, how strong is the RP community here?  Siren has dried upon at some point between my hiatus and return.

(06-17-2017, 12:04 PM)GloriousGodfrey Wrote: [ -> ]2 things, without derailing the topic too much... What's the issue with Balmung beyond it's popularity and difficulty in getting in?

Second, how strong is the RP community here?  Siren has dried upon at some point between my hiatus and return.

I think a good portion of people leaving right now, are tired of the overcrowding on the server, as well as the absolute lack of housing available. I took a step back the other day when it took me 30 minutes just to get into early access. It dawned on me I wouldn't be able to ever get a house on here if the ques were going to be like this. Took me a long time to decide though... Balmung will always have a place in my heart.

As far as rp community, it's rapidly growing as we speak. I see more and more RPers running over to Mateus each day I log on. The LS I have made is gaining members, and I am apart of a couple other LSes that are full of rpers. Plenty of FCS as well!