Hydaelyn Role-Players

As I am sure that many people have completed the current main storyline up to the defeat of Leviathan, you likely noticed Lady Yugiri and her ship full of refugees from a Far Eastern country named Doma.

Up to this point we hadn't know much about the Far East aside from some item descriptions and the Heavensturn event so this sudden look into some of their people really caught my attention. I've been debating the idea of playing someone from the Far East, however with so little info and no easy way of them getting to Eorzea made the idea difficult. The Doman refugees suddenly allow for such characters being playable and legit and has resparked my interest.

In terms of clothes we don't have much to go off of and very little obtainable gear has any Eastern feel to them aside from the Yukatas which are from a 1.0 event.

The next part would be how to equate Eastern styles into our current available classes and jobs.

Gladiator/Paladin: Standard rank and file soldiers with a shield, pretty basic. Paladin's are a no-go since they were invented in Ul'dah.

Marauder/Warrior: Perhaps Barbarian of some sort since in many Asian cultures large bulky men or ogres often uses axes so you could factor that in.

Pugilist/Monk: Any martial artist, self-explanatory.

Thaumaturge/Black Mage: Possibly be a Sage or Channeler who divines with spirits and gains power from them. Or like a Warpriest.

Conjurer/White Mage: Likely something like a priest or priestess who revere ancestors or similar spirits.

Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner: Unless the magic practiced in the Southern Isles made its way to Doma, I doubt this class would be viable. Scholars are tied to Vylbrand. Summoners MIGHT work and you could be like an Evoker who calls forth spirits to do your bidding. The egi part wouldn't work since Primals no longer exist in the Far East.

Archer/Bard: Archery is a common practice in many cultures, as is music. I could see both being fine as they are.

Lancer/Dragoon: Pikemen are another common unit found in ancient armies to fight against mounted cavalry so that's good. Dragoons are pretty much exclusive to Ishgard.

Thief/Ninja: Coming with patch 2.4 and will be easy adaptations to Doman players.

I'm open to feedback and other people's insights and interests, just no fighting. I'm curious about who also likes the idea of making a Doman and would like to know about the ideas they wish to use in their characters.

I created an alt months ago and heavily implied that she was 'Asian' by giving her almond-shaped eyes (as close to as the CC could get anyway), straight black hair, 'Asian-y' skin tone and the Japanese name Miyuki Yamauchi.

The character started as an archer/bard and is now in the process of attaining myth gear. I've got her through the Amalj'aa dailies to get her the drake mount as well for character-driven mount usage.

My idea for the character, originally, was to make her an ic ninja and then swap her to the job when it came out. Backstory wise I combined the idea of the hidden villages of shinobi (like in Naruto) with the displacement and loss of the Dwaves of Erabor (from the Hobbit). Setting their original home somewhere in the mountains of Coerthas, Miyuki and her 'clan' of ninja (etc) were forced to flee after a dragon attack left their village destroyed. Now living in the Black Shroud, she (oocly) can be found in and around Gridania.

With the advent of the Domans and the obvious 'Asian' style of them (not to mention the pending thief/ninja class/jobs) I've reworked Yuki's backstory slightly to imply that her 'clan' immigrated generations ago to Coerthas from Doma.

I actually was inspired to make a Doman alt, myself. I'm not terribly worried about the lack of "Eastern" clothing, because the Domans themselves in the quest line (aside from Yugiri) are seen wearing robes and tunics not unlike the models we have in the game. (Example here.)

At any rate, I think it's likely that some of the refugees would be ill content to remain in Revenant's Toll. There's a lot of adventurer traffic there, so perhaps meeting one of these heroic individuals inspired some of them to travel to Gridania, or Limsa Lominsa, or even back to Ul'dah to prove themselves.

As for classes, I don't think it's far-fetched to think a newly arrived Doman (who may or may not have had previous martial training) might also train in one of the Disciplines of War native to his new home. But there are plenty of classes that can have a more Eastern feel with the right equipment:

Lancer: There are polearm models in the game that could pass for yari or naginata. If you have one of the kabuto from the Heavensturn event, some of them look great with some of the scale or leather armor sets in the game.

Archer: As stated above, archers are pretty universal. I'm not sure if there's a bow model that looks similar to the Japanese yumi, which was very tall and asymmetrical in shape, but overall I think any longbow model would work fine for RP.

Pugilist: These are already very heavily "Eastern" in their character animations and the concept of chakra.

Marauder: Just adding to what The Wizard has already said: of note, Kintaro in Japanese folklore wielded an ono or axe. (Quick note here: one reason why such things as axes and polearms are common weapons to so many different cultures is because they're adapted from agricultural tools when needed in times of war.)

Conjurer: We don't know very much about the Doman belief system at this point, but Shinto and the concept of kami is pretty similar (in my mind) to the Gridanians' relationship with the Elementals. Someone with more knowledge of Shinto might correct me on this. But I think it'd be an interesting thing to explore, and if later lore contradicts it, you could always say it's a practice of the "old ways."

Thaumaturges, Gladiators, and Arcanists are hard to fit into a "traditional" Eastern role, but I don't see why a Doman immigrant to Eorzea couldn't begin training in these disciplines.

(05-01-2014, 08:13 AM)Lizzo Wrote: [ -> ]I created an alt months ago and heavily implied that she was 'Asian' by giving her almond-shaped eyes (as close to as the CC could get anyway), straight black hair, 'Asian-y' skin tone and the Japanese name Miyuki Yamauchi.

The character started as an archer/bard and is now in the process of attaining myth gear. I've got her through the Amalj'aa dailies to get her the drake mount as well for character-driven mount usage.

My idea for the character, originally, was to make her an ic ninja and then swap her to the job when it came out. Backstory wise I combined the idea of the hidden villages of shinobi (like in Naruto) with the displacement and loss of the Dwaves of Erabor (from the Hobbit). Setting their original home somewhere in the mountains of Coerthas, Miyuki and her 'clan' of ninja (etc) were forced to flee after a dragon attack left their village destroyed. Now living in the Black Shroud, she (oocly) can be found in and around Gridania.

With the advent of the Domans and the obvious 'Asian' style of them (not to mention the pending thief/ninja class/jobs) I've reworked Yuki's backstory slightly to imply that her 'clan' immigrated generations ago to Coerthas from Doma.

Ah I see. This is sort of what I assumed upon seeing many high-leveled and end-geared Asianish characters.

(05-01-2014, 10:34 AM)TheLastCandle Wrote: [ -> ]I actually was inspired to make a Doman alt, myself. I'm not terribly worried about the lack of "Eastern" clothing, because the Domans themselves in the quest line (aside from Yugiri) are seen wearing robes and tunics not unlike the models we have in the game. (Example here.)

At any rate, I think it's likely that some of the refugees would be ill content to remain in Revenant's Toll. There's a lot of adventurer traffic there, so perhaps meeting one of these heroic individuals inspired some of them to travel to Gridania, or Limsa Lominsa, or even back to Ul'dah to prove themselves.

As for classes, I don't think it's far-fetched to think a newly arrived Doman (who may or may not have had previous martial training) might also train in one of the Disciplines of War native to his new home.

Kiht told me that you were making a Doman so I hoped you would weigh in. In all likelihood the Domans escaped with just what they had on them so lots of Eastern clothing would be unlikely. Still I desire the look though... especially those Yukatas...

True enough after a time the refugees would likely learn of Eorzea's martial ways but I still like the notion of being some Doman variant of a class.

(05-01-2014, 10:34 AM)TheLastCandle Wrote: [ -> ]Conjurer: We don't know very much about the Doman belief system at this point, but Shinto and the concept of kami is pretty similar (in my mind) to the Gridanians' relationship with the Elementals. Someone with more knowledge of Shinto might correct me on this. But I think it'd be an interesting thing to explore, and if later lore contradicts it, you could always say it's a practice of the "old ways."

Yes! I was going for just that. I would love to be a Doman analogue for a Miko or something like that. Gear becomes an issue again although I've been getting clothes with the sets available.

(05-01-2014, 05:47 PM)TheWizard Wrote: [ -> ]Yes! I was going for just that. I would love to be a Doman analogue for a Miko or something like that. Gear becomes an issue again although I've been getting clothes with the sets available.

That's a cool idea. (Even though Gintama has made me think of a certain character from that show who was a former miko every time I hear the term. xP)

I keep hoping the yukata from the 2012 Moonfire Faire reappear in some form. With the Domans' arrival, maybe we'll see them at the next one instead of the Cascadier swimsuits. One can hope.

(05-01-2014, 08:11 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2014, 05:47 PM)TheWizard Wrote: [ -> ]Yes! I was going for just that. I would love to be a Doman analogue for a Miko or something like that. Gear becomes an issue again although I've been getting clothes with the sets available.

That's a cool idea. (Even though Gintama has made me think of a certain character from that show who was a former miko every time I hear the term. xP)

I keep hoping the yukata from the 2012 Moonfire Faire reappear in some form. With the Domans' arrival, maybe we'll see them at the next one instead of the Cascadier swimsuits. One can hope.

I haven't seen that anime, I sorta have some idea for a char but I may wait for the dagger class to come out since I'm kinda wanting to be someone's twin.

Yeah re-releasing the yukatas would be awesome or make them tradeable on the market.

Sorry about the double-post.

With the announcement of this year's Moonfire Faire, we are getting yukatas like we asked!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/...ire_Faire/

I would be wary of lifting directly from East Asian culture to make exact analogues for Othard in FFXIV. Ul'dah is an example of this.

Ul'dah is undeniably Ottoman/Persian influenced in its architecture. However, Central Thanalan is styled after an American West sort of frontier, with a railway and a saloon style bar. There are Greco-Roman style gladiators and a 'coliseum'. It has French-style paladins as royal guards complete with fleur-de-lis. Its high fashion through the Weavers' Guild is all Renaissance/Enlightenment style.

Similarly, Othard COULD be a similar case. It might have a Far Eastern 'base' but with other influences pulled from other cultures. Whether it will is anyone's guess.

(08-10-2014, 03:03 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: [ -> ]I would be wary of lifting directly from East Asian culture to make exact analogues for Othard in FFXIV.

Agreed. Right now we have not much in the way of evidence that Othard is like eastern Asiatic cultures.

What was the 1.0 lore surrounding the yukatas, anyway? Though I suppose that may be overwritten once the new summer event releases.

(08-10-2014, 03:03 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: [ -> ]I would be wary of lifting directly from East Asian culture to make exact analogues for Othard in FFXIV. Ul'dah is an example of this.

I didn't make any exact analogues, I just made some things which could be easily taken as Far Eastern but could also be taken for something else in case SE does mash things up. Archers, barbarians and soldiers are seen in many cultures while many also have some sort of spirituality based around shamans or wise men so they aren't strictly Asian.

(08-10-2014, 03:33 PM)Naunet Wrote: [ -> ]What was the 1.0 lore surrounding the yukatas, anyway? Though I suppose that may be overwritten once the new summer event releases.

Here is the page for the old event. "rare garments from the mystic East"

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/...4cf0297b4b