Hydaelyn Role-Players

I am sure this will be looked down upon by a lot of players, but this is something that I'd like to focus solely for the FC and my character Anelia if possible. She will be conflicted with one of the most mastermind villain in FC who will attack cities and certain areas with explosives to bring terror to citizens.

What I would need are:

• Law Enforcement (Yellowjackets, Wood Wailers, Brass Blades) and other city elites (Immortal Flame, Maelstrom, Twin Serpents, and Sultansworns) who'd be willing to participate in side plot to support and help out this event.
  
• Regular citizens, good or evil - who cares to not see the city be burned or those wants to watch the city to burn. To be in side of the plots
  
• There will not be really any fights like dices or anything. We just need people to panic when we alert everyone OOCly. This is going to be an event for 2-3 days, and when there is an OOC shout alert, we just want people to start ICly panic, react, or smile on it.
  
• This will affect on those who love Starlights (aka Christmas) and then this character will ruin their holidays by terrorizing the streets. 
  

I know this is a bit harsh thing that I am coming up with, but I really want to push it. I really hope that at least many people will at least cooperate for good amount of days if possible.

And I assure you, no chocobos, Nanamo or any important NPCs will be harmed from this.
(And you won't either, unless you want to be the victim affected by explosion. I made sure that the charges were set in certain areas that people barely hang out ICly...except Pearl Street)

*Note: I am aware that there are those who would not be okay with this because this seems too extreme, but... I'd like to make it somewhat interesting!

Again, should you be interested - please please please help out to make this event happen!

The story will plan out to be within two weeks.

Thank you!

EDIT:
For those who are confused with my wordings, you may sign up to be part of the story on pursing to stop this mad criminal. However, keep in mind that the people who participate in this will be limited. (Cannot have 20 people to be involved in story for this over one guy).

I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

Either way, I don't actually have any characters that fit what you're looking for here, but best of luck to you anyway! Consider this a bump for the cause.

(12-05-2014, 11:07 AM)Oli! Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

Either way, I don't actually have any characters that fit what you're looking for here, but best of luck to you anyway! Consider this a bump for the cause.

I would love to have more people to participate and be involved, but I am kind of worried about how many people might end up saying "How come I got casted aside when I was fully participating in this event?". I mean, they can still push it to make themselves be involved in the story, I never said anyone cannot join at all aside from this catastrophe that's about to happen. 

Again, you can feel free to say that you want to be part of the story and I'll be obliged to fill you in

(12-05-2014, 11:07 AM)Oli! Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

I don't think it's a case of looking down upon but there's been precedence of the RP community not liking wide spread events that attack common areas. There was once an event where some parts of Ul'dah's water supply was tainted with poison, walls bombed, people dying from it etc. Threads sorta blew up about it. Some people liked it and some people didn't like how you almost -have- to accept that the events happened and how it affected your character or you essentially are in another city/area/timeline continuity.

(12-05-2014, 11:36 AM)Kage Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-05-2014, 11:07 AM)Oli! Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

I don't think it's a case of looking down upon but there's been precedence of the RP community not liking wide spread events that attack common areas. There was once an event where some parts of Ul'dah's water supply was tainted with poison, walls bombed, people dying from it etc. Threads sorta blew up about it. Some people liked it and some people didn't like how you almost -have- to accept that the events happened and how it affected your character or you essentially are in another city/area/timeline continuity.

This is one part that is a big concern, but I really want to make this event happen. Should it affect you or not is your character's choice. If anyone does not want to be involved during this event, please avoid those areas if possible.

Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

And anywhere that any Lalafells with blue/redhair would go to....kidding on that part.

(12-05-2014, 11:39 AM)Aldotsk Wrote: [ -> ]Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

Before I reply, I need to know how serious you are about this particular part.

(12-05-2014, 11:43 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-05-2014, 11:39 AM)Aldotsk Wrote: [ -> ]Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

Before I reply, I need to know how serious you are about this particular part.

Knowing that I'd be harshly criticized by you (maybe), but I intend to keep that as an agenda. It won't be an actual meeting hall that you see in the story, but it'll be around supposed halls of Husting strips (after all, Ul'dah in actual concept is actually three times larger than what we see in the game when we walk around.


Reason? Even though Anelia is no loger sworn, this suspect knows that it'll rile her up should he Attack the sworns

Give me a moment to gather my thoughts on this so that I can word them properly...will edit when it's time, or post anew.

Okay so here goes:

If it's an FC event -- blatantly stated as one, keep it to the FC's canon. Don't force it on the community, that leads to bad, BAD places. Nothing's wrong with a little FC canon! It makes things fun! Nothing is also wrong with recruiting people for NPC-ship or extras for the effect. I bet lots of people would be willing to help your FC out in that way -- in fact, there's an entire FC dedicated to providing NPCs!

What is the point, of recruiting people for NPC/Extra effect if the event is going to take place publicly? Why then, must the players involved be told how to react (panic) instead of treating it as their characters would? Why must people who are not involved be forced to avoid the areas this one FC wants to use for their event? I saw Pearl Lane mentioned. My character goes there every day to deliver provisions for the people on the street -- seeing that he used to be one of them. Am I to avoid that area that day, as a non-participant, simply to further your FC plot? PERSONALLY, I'd be cool with bullshitting a reason for Berrod not to be there that day, but what happens after? When it becomes a crime scene and he can't go there, or if the people he's taking care of die in whatever happens. It's affecting my canon, something that should be unrelated to your FC without my consent. 

I have my issues with community events affecting cities and water supplies and the tightness of underwear, but I believe it to be a much better approach than this -- simply because it's a matter of it being something for the COMMUNITY. Asking the community to cater to one FC in such a profound manner is...a bit bold.


It's a pretty crippling oversight, and could be construed the wrong way by a lot of people. Not to mention the thought of consequences. If the Sultansworn area comes under attack and that is allowed to leak OUTSIDE of your FC's canon...would it not be free game to every Sultansworn, Free Paladin and every adventurer under the sun to do something about it? Are preparations in place to deal with very public fallout!


All those things are very important to consider! Keep in mind this is just some constructive feedback, not trying to flame or anything. 

My reputation precedes me.

If it's an FC event, keep it in your FC. If it's a world event, it's best not to dictate how people will be expected to react. It's exceptionally poor taste (in my opinion, obviously) to intentionally target a known, functioning group of players and tell them they don't have to accept this as canon, but you're totally launching an attack on the Sultansworn. This is that ugly "splitting canon" issue that Kage referenced.

I don't have to like your concept, and you don't have to care I don't like it. I think there are better ways to tell a story, but don't let me stop you (and knowing that you won't let me is why I'm comfortable talking to you so plainly. It's good you don't give a damn what I say. It's definitely not personal, to boot.)

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I was saying I don't mind criticisms, but chances are that I would like to keep the agenda if possible. People can pretend and be like "what explosions? Are people going insane?" Tone at those who are participating. I personally liked Askiers event about getting affected canonically. 

It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

And also everytime I try to do some kind of events there were histories about people looking down at my ideas , but I still think it's more of how players view me than how my events are made.

(12-05-2014, 12:10 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: [ -> ]I think you misinterpreted what I said. I was saying I don't mind criticisms, but chances are that I would like to keep the agenda if possible. People can pretend and be like "what explosions? Are people going insane?" Tone at those who are participating. I personally liked Askiers event about getting affected canonically. 

It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

Put my thoughts into the edit of my above post, I hope they give a clear picture.

(12-05-2014, 12:10 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: [ -> ]It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

That right there is the issue though. 

By blowing up Ul'dah, you would effectively split people into two groups: those that accept your storyline into theirs, and those who do not. And that isn't supposed to be a consented choice. 

By using a large, public area as the setting, it creates a split in the community. Just like the previous Askier-run event where the water was poisoned, it made a MASSIVE split in the community and even players who do not use the RPC, but RP were talking about it and it was clear that some were uncomfortable with it. 

It's basically telling someone they would need to accept your story's injection into their own, and not everyone would want to deal with that. Especially if there is no way for it to be stopped, reduced or otherwise adjusted for the entire community. (And even then, trying to blow something up will 'blow up the community')


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If this is supposed to only exist in FC-canon, I would say that it cannot also exist in open-world canon, where there cannot be such changes made. At the end of the day/night/scene/whatever, each of the cities' stories is still going to have to be wherever SE has put them, and the kind of changes such an event would have is not within the scope that a RPer could modify.

This isn't saying "don't do it", but it is saying "do it carefully, or do it only for your FC". If a scene I had last night with just two other people is any indication, violence in a city will make other people react, and you cannot ask that they just politely do not interfere with a pre-planned story.

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I would recommend either making the event private or making it completely open to the public. It sounds like playing the role of a NPC citizen doesn't add much aside from atmosphere. That can be done with emotes. I think you will find people will be more ready to participate if their characters can be actively involved.I don't think that public events are a problem. Actually, I think they are great for the community. I just think you should consider what the benefit of a player playing a NPC would be over simply emoting one.

But then, I may not understand the event description.

Again, I have not said people cannot be involved. And yes, if I target lore based areas for the FC plot, it does involve everyone and many people will not like it. I just wanted to keep everyone notified that I don't want them to be annoyed or upset like what happened in askier's event. No matter what people say about his event, there were those who liked it, and you can't satisfy everyone in something. I am only giving the idea that I'd want to let people know that is is FC focused but because of what's happening here, it'll affect everyone. If you are affected and you want to be involved, don't hesitate to jump in and talk to me.

I liked world events sometimes that have these kind of crisis because I don't always see happy world events that happen all the time. And don't get me wrong. I find jancis's and oscare's events from past few weeks to be amazing and also the ball dances and etc. but why not also have despairing events too?