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RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - BearCave - 04-17-2015
So I'm not sure if this has been brought up, or if people are taking this into consideration but from my understanding about the Au Ra, they're giving a generalized description of how they lived while they were in Othard. Which isn't there / is occupied by the Garlean Empire now.Â
Which opens up a whole new realm of possibilities since they're not going to be in Othard.Â
Will the character try to adapt to their new environment(s)?Â
If so, how?Â
Are they going to continue being nomadic / isolationist?Â
Why?Â
These are things that should be taken into consideration. Don't let what is there tunnel vision you into something. Characters grow, adapt and rebuild themselves consistently, just like we do.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - K'nahli - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 05:34 PM)BearCave Wrote: from my understanding about the Au Ra, they're giving a generalized description of how they lived while they were in Othard. Which isn't there / is occupied by the Garlean Empire now.Â
These are things that should be taken into consideration. Don't let what is there tunnel vision you into something. Characters grow, adapt and rebuild themselves consistently, just like we do.
Quite a valid point ^^
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Mae - 04-17-2015
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Anyone can take or disregard that dialogue as they may, I suppose, but the context is that she hid her appearance because it was known to be (initially) disquieting, and had been met with fear and rejection before. Is it -just- the Garleans that treated them this way? Maybe, maybe not, but the context sort of suggests that the reaction was prevalent enough that not only was the thought to cover up almost completely given, but specific clothes were developed to not hinder the wearer -- it wasn't a spur-of-the-moment "let me wrap my head and shoulders in a scarf" move.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Unnamed Mercenary - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 06:44 PM)Mae Wrote:
Anyone can take or disregard that dialogue as they may, I suppose, but the context is that she hid her appearance because it was known to be (initially) disquieting, and had been met with fear and rejection before. Is it -just- the Garleans that treated them this way? Maybe, maybe not, but the context sort of suggests that the reaction was prevalent enough that not only was the thought to cover up almost completely given, but specific clothes were developed to not hinder the wearer -- it wasn't a spur-of-the-moment "let me wrap my head and shoulders in a scarf" move.
It could also be the Succubus-like appearance. I place more money on unsettling "new" race.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Dante Abigor - 04-17-2015
I personally didn't like any of the job lore aside from Astrologian. Dark Knight in particular bothered me simply because it seems /too/ anti-hero-ish in its lack of anything distasteful in their lore.
Who leads them? Why is a greatsword their calling card? Why are poor people even being picked on in the first place when there are DRAGONS outside of the walls trying to kill everyone? Then again this is initial lore so I guess my rage is unfounded. I just hate it when lore gives me more questions without answers than useful information.
Similarly, Machinist made me angry simply because WHEN THE FUCK did they have a chance to Cid's works? Before 1.5? Also similar to another thread questioning how they fed themselves, how are they getting the magitek necessary for XYZ to happen? It just bothers me.
I really liked the Au Ra lore however. Nothing much to say there, except everyone prepare your anus for Au Ra characters to have the ability to hear your sword shift slightly in its sheathe or something/watch you pee from malms away.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - mongi291 - 04-18-2015
(04-17-2015, 09:51 PM)Dante Abigor Wrote: I personally didn't like any of the job lore aside from Astrologian. Dark Knight in particular bothered me simply because it seems /too/ anti-hero-ish in its lack of anything distasteful in their lore.I don't know where you read they pick on poor people. In fact they protect them from corrupted knights and priests.
Who leads them? Why is a greatsword their calling card? Why are poor people even being picked on in the first place when there are DRAGONS outside of the walls trying to kill everyone? Then again this is initial lore so I guess my rage is unfounded. I just hate it when lore gives me more questions without answers than useful information.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Fox - 04-18-2015
(04-18-2015, 12:14 AM)mongi291 Wrote:(04-17-2015, 09:51 PM)Dante Abigor Wrote: I personally didn't like any of the job lore aside from Astrologian. Dark Knight in particular bothered me simply because it seems /too/ anti-hero-ish in its lack of anything distasteful in their lore.I don't know where you read they pick on poor people. In fact they protect them from corrupted knights and priests.
Who leads them? Why is a greatsword their calling card? Why are poor people even being picked on in the first place when there are DRAGONS outside of the walls trying to kill everyone? Then again this is initial lore so I guess my rage is unfounded. I just hate it when lore gives me more questions without answers than useful information.
I don't think they mean that the DRK are picking on them. Rather Ishgardian society or whatever is picking on people. Is what Dante was getting at, at least that's how I was reading it.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Aduu Avagnar - 04-18-2015
(04-17-2015, 09:51 PM)Dante Abigor Wrote: I personally didn't like any of the job lore aside from Astrologian. Dark Knight in particular bothered me simply because it seems /too/ anti-hero-ish in its lack of anything distasteful in their lore.When in times of war it is typically the poor that are most abused, from taking the kings shilling to simply being an easy scapegoat for a noble if said noble has failed at a task.
Who leads them? Why is a greatsword their calling card? Why are poor people even being picked on in the first place when there are DRAGONS outside of the walls trying to kill everyone? Then again this is initial lore so I guess my rage is unfounded. I just hate it when lore gives me more questions without answers than useful information.
It is the Dark Knights duty, I suppose to try and bring justice to the peasants. those targets of nobles and inquisitors that like easy prey. Who else would stand for them? if a noble stood against an inquisitor that would put their own house in line for investigation, or if against another noble then they could start a feud that could backfire.
Also, remember this is the first major push by the dragons in 20 years. Plenty of time in which to pick on poor people.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Cato - 04-18-2015
I'm not too surprised that the Dark Knight is more of a hero than a villain. I was sort of hoping for something as gritty and morally dubious as WoW's Death Knights but I suppose the developers are intent on making us all play the 'good guys' for the sake of the main story.
I suspect we may see a few turn up as outright villains though - abusing their power or being consumed by the 'darkness' that they wield. Or, more poetically, becoming so zealous that they end being just as bad as the corrupt inquisitors they may try and take down.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Seriphyn - 04-18-2015
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Au Ra Dark Knight doesn't seem like it'll make too much sense.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Zhavi - 04-18-2015
Omgggomgomgomgomg NEED NOMAD RP STAT.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - mongi291 - 04-18-2015
(04-18-2015, 02:37 AM)Seriphyn Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Au Ra Dark Knight doesn't seem like it'll make too much sense.I get the feeling there will be Au Ras in Ishgard or at least in Coerthas. It would be silly to have a new race but have almost no NPCs of that race. I don't know, maybe they escaped from Othard when it was conquered and went directly to Ishgard/Coerthas instead of the rest of Eorzea.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Clover - 04-18-2015
(04-18-2015, 02:37 AM)Seriphyn Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Au Ra Dark Knight doesn't seem like it'll make too much sense.
Lore-wise, it seems that way. And yet they've been using Au Ra models for both Dark Knight and Astrologian, which gave me the initial impression that a considerable amount of Au Ras could either be related to Ishgard or to the lands beyond it. Now that the lore has been released, we see it might not be the case. And I had been planning to make an Astrologian Au Ra myself *sweatdrops*.
Still, I don't see classes as something we have to RP literally. My Tia uses spears, which doesn't mean that he's a Dragoon. I doubt he's even seen a Dragoon before. Likewise, I guess my Au Ra will use cards to predict fate, which doesn't mean she's an Astrologian from Ishgard. Most FFXIV jobs involve the idea that only a single or very few chosen ones can represent them, after all; we have to find ways around their lore or we'd be unable to play at all.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - Fox - 04-18-2015
Maybe. But the small bit of lore that we do have seems to elude to multiple DRK, Astrologian, and machinists. It's not so much like white mage where there is definitive one person. However we still have a very small bit of info and we won't know entirely till release so right now I'm going to agree with Mongi's view until we really do know. All of it is speculation currently.
RE: Heavensward Jobs, and Au Ra Lore now available - ArmachiA - 04-18-2015
My Au Ra decided to immigrate with her brothers because she heard about the Golden Saucer and now wants to be a FAMOUS PRIZE FIGHTER there. She's gonna be so disappointed it doesn't have prize fighting. Her brother is coming down for FC reasons, and her other brother is pretty much being forced because he's a trouble maker who the older brother needs to watch.
It's the silliest reason for deciding to go with her brothers but it fits her doofiness so well and I'm sticking with it.