+- Hydaelyn Role-Players (https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18)
+-- Forum: Final Fantasy 14 (https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/forumdisplay.php?fid=41)
+--- Forum: FFXIV Discussion (https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/forumdisplay.php?fid=12)
+--- Thread: Picking up a new DoM class? (/showthread.php?tid=10336)
Pages:
1
2
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Warren Castille - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 12:41 PM)Velaena Wrote: Hey folks if you help me reach the end of the story I am a pinata full of soldiery
Hmm yes. Indeed.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Gegenji - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 12:45 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:(02-26-2015, 12:41 PM)Velaena Wrote: Hey folks if you help me reach the end of the story I am a pinata full of soldiery
Hmm yes. Indeed.
Uh oh. The F R E E S O L D I E R Y signal has been lit.
Seriously, though, if you can't find people to help you queue into the new dungeons for whatever reason, mentioning that they'll get the first-time soldiery bonus will help sweeten the deal. Bribe your way to the top!
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Velaena - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 12:55 PM)Gegenji Wrote:I wasn't trying to bribe people. Simply explaining that I wanted to get through content faster.(02-26-2015, 12:45 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:(02-26-2015, 12:41 PM)Velaena Wrote: Hey folks if you help me reach the end of the story I am a pinata full of soldiery
Hmm yes. Indeed.
Uh oh. The F R E E S O L D I E R Y signal has been lit.
Seriously, though, if you can't find people to help you queue into the new dungeons for whatever reason, mentioning that they'll get the first-time soldiery bonus will help sweeten the deal. Bribe your way to the top!
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Gegenji - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 01:25 PM)Velaena Wrote:(02-26-2015, 12:55 PM)Gegenji Wrote:I wasn't trying to bribe people. Simply explaining that I wanted to get through content faster.(02-26-2015, 12:45 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:(02-26-2015, 12:41 PM)Velaena Wrote: Hey folks if you help me reach the end of the story I am a pinata full of soldiery
Hmm yes. Indeed.
Uh oh. The F R E E S O L D I E R Y signal has been lit.
Seriously, though, if you can't find people to help you queue into the new dungeons for whatever reason, mentioning that they'll get the first-time soldiery bonus will help sweeten the deal. Bribe your way to the top!
Haha, not saying you are, don't worry. I'm poking fun more at the folks who will pounce on first-timers in dungeons and Primal fights for that sweet, sweet bonus Soldiery.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Warren Castille - 02-26-2015
Wasn't trying to infer that either. I just know people are much more likely to be good people and help out when there's a tangible reward for doing so.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Kage - 02-26-2015
From one of the bards I know:
Spam one of the shots until procs.
Hit procs.
Keep DoTs up.
Save shot if you need to silence.
Honestly one time her mic picked up her keyboard and I was like "Damn gurl you are hitting lots of keys."
"No. I'm just spamming this one button really."
At least with BLM I need to know when the best time is for me to move or else I fuck up my casting uptime. Also, really big numbers are pretty when Fire 3 3K+
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Velaena - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 01:41 PM)Kage Wrote: From one of the bards I know:
Spam one of the shots until procs.
Hit procs.
Keep DoTs up.
Save shot if you need to silence.
Honestly one time her mic picked up her keyboard and I was like "Damn gurl you are hitting lots of keys."
"No. I'm just spamming this one button really."
At least with BLM I need to know when the best time is for me to move or else I fuck up my casting uptime. Also, really big numbers are pretty when Fire 3 3K+
Yeah this is the issue I have with Bard. It's ridiculously easy and boring to play both in and out of dungeons. That's honestly why I chose it in the first place, my first character (since getting back into FF) and I wanted an easy ride. Now, not so much.Â
And sorry! I didn't realise, but I can see it now. If people want to pounce on me to do Titan (after I finish the ridiculously long chain of quests leading up to it) that's totally fine! The less wait time the better.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Desu Nee - 02-26-2015
One thing to note though. BLM is widely forgotten as a job across Eorzea, and it's known in small circles and beastmen. If you have a soul gem, it's highly possible you can be a BLM and "just" be considered a very strong Thaumaturge to a point. IC-wise, you would avoid using things like Flare and Freeze in example, since those would probably take a really inhuman amount of Body Aether normally.
Unlike White Mage, you can easily cover you BLMism but you need the Soul Stone, which can be found in the ruins of Invisible City I.E.
Also it takes a lot of time to practice and since it's a highly destructive job you would need a recluded place to train or risk being discovered.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Aris - 02-26-2015
I think others have answered your questions pretty much, but to add - healing on a console is very easy, just as good as on a PC in my opinion (but I'm biased
). If you time it right, like on PC, you can queue up actions just the same.You do have to scroll up and down the pad to access party members, but it will automatically go back to the party member you've healed a few times. In battle your settings will automatically be set so that if you aren't focused on anything, and face something and click X, it will target only the enemy and not any party members. So you can swap between targeting the boss, or focusing on your party list with bottom arrow, with one click just as easily on a computer. You can also swap enemy targets by L1+R2, which will switch through them slower, but if you're doing it while your action cooldown is up then it really makes no difference and is just as efficient.
And there's lots of option to personalize your UI and crossbars/controller to suit you. Please don't let it put you off healing, PS4 is just as good if you want to try it! (Sorry for saying automatically lots.)
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - FreelanceWizard - 02-26-2015
(02-26-2015, 10:05 AM)Velaena Wrote:
- How do the job classes (SMN, SCH, BLM) play at higher levels?
- How could I RP as any of the aforementioned classes?Â
Let me offer some BLMsight! (It's like insight, except it comes from the Boom Side, where we have 4k crits and get to ignore phase transition special attacks from bosses.
)How does it play at higher levels?
BLM is all about MP management at 50. It's not the normal "don't run out" management, but rather managing your MP use and timing your spells so that you can maximize your DPS by staying in Astral Fire 3 as much as possible and missing as few Firestarter and Thundercloud procs as possible. This requires a good sense of rhythm (since MP regen is on a fixed "beat" from the server), a feel for how long your spells take to go off, and quick fingers. This is especially true when you're bursting with 2xFlare or maximizing AE damage with 3xFlare.
As a BLM, you still need the quick reaction time shared by all DPS to dodge attacks, use your utility spells, and quickly focus adds. One difference is that you can't cast any real spells while moving, so you also benefit from learning fights so you can predict where AEs drop and how long they take to go off, as well as where adds pop -- since every second you're moving, you're not casting, and BLM DPS is based on the ABC rule: "A. Always. B. Be. C. Casting."
How can I RP as a BLM?
The easiest way is to just call yourself a powerful Thaumaturge.
It's not necessary, IMO, to invoke the job to create massive blasts of fire and ice. If you do decide to RP as a Black Mage, though, be aware that Black Magic is generally disliked if not outright illegal in most of Eorzea, so expect to get some flak ICly for it. That said, it's also very rare, so most characters won't be aware of it or won't necessarily believe someone who claims to have access to such powers.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Velaena - 02-26-2015
I plan on going down the SMN/SCH route since it has that variety and it fits what my final iteration Victorique will be. Research about lore etc will be done though so I don't get any lore nuts riled up during RP ^^Â
What would be the fastest way to level the DoM classes since I will need Conjurer and Thaumaturge at 15 anyway. I got Pugilist to 15 just by doing leves, since nobody was doing FATEs, but that took me 3 days of grinding. Is there a faster way?
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - FreelanceWizard - 02-26-2015
If you still have quests left in the other cities' starting zones, you can do those. Otherwise, leveling is the big three: FATEs, leves, and dungeons. Guildhests are good XP too, but usually the queue times are quite long.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Kage - 02-26-2015
Guildhests have generally been <10 min for me.
Use main story quests for a class that is harder to level with dungeons (non-tank/healer). Use side story quests for them too.
Do fates all the time. DO your hunting logs. If you run out of hunting log marks, go to the area where your hunting log has monsters for your level and smack things there.
RE: Picking up a new DoM class? - Aris - 02-26-2015
FATEs in the Summerford La Noscea area are a good spot for 1-15, as there are often people grinding atma. Doing a mix of leves, guildhests, hunting log, FATEs + food bonus + FC exp bonus should level them up quite quickly!