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RE: Flying Mounts and You - KHMarie - 05-27-2015
Serylda has a very slight fear of heights, that she deals with but still can get the better of her depending on the situation. I can't help but feel she won't handle flying mounts very well at first, but will probably force herself to adjust.
Just like someone else said, I think the bigger the better. As long as she can't see the grown below, she generally won't get anxious.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Aris - 05-27-2015
To me it seems (realistically) that it would take a lot of training and require safety gear and little bits and pieces like that to be able to use one? I'm interested to see how people will go about it if they do have their OC flying around.
As flying in pre-existing areas isn't allowed at the moment, it might be that the chocobo in those areas aren't trained, or it is only allowed around Ishgard because of necessity to get to surrounding areas? Can't wait to see the lore presented in-game.
I certainly accept some flying mounts (sorry fat chocobo), but personally my characters won't be using them any time soon - plus Nara is an engineer, so she's an airship lass through and through.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Gegenji - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 10:54 AM)Telluride Wrote:(05-27-2015, 10:50 AM)Gegenji Wrote:(05-27-2015, 10:34 AM)K'nahli Wrote: I apologise if it's technically lore-friendly for them to fly then ^^Â I just never heard of anyone flying so far, and though I don't doubt people do in their personal RP's, I had a feeling that chocobo flying cases were certainly few and far between.
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This has been Horsebird History with Gegenji.
Gold Chocobo. Knights of the Round.
Well, technically none of the Chocobos in FF7 flew. Just specified what they could run over. The Black Chocobo, as mentioned, was the Mountain-and-River Chocobo that could run over, well, mountains and rivers. Breeding one with a Great Chocobo (a regular Chocobo that was rated "Great," caught usually up in the snowy areas, I think?) would result in the Gold Chocobo, aka the Ocean Chocobo. Which, since it could actually run over oceans, could get you to that cave with Knights of the Round.
Which, now that I think about it, is a bit of an oddity. The whole thing about Black Chocobos in FF4 and FF5 was that mountains were the one thing they couldn't fly over, which is why they could never fully replace airships (and, in FF4 definitely, they could only land in forests).
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Mercurias - 05-27-2015
My alt is a pilot. He's going to be flying stuff.
I personally probably won't, say, make him have all six ponies he can summon with whistles, or the Kirin mount, but he's going to have a personal flight mechanism, and when he gets it, he's rarely going to touch the ground again because he loves to fly. Personally, my ultimate goal for him is the one-or-two person airship.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - K'nahli - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 10:52 AM)Flickering Ember Wrote:(05-27-2015, 10:04 AM)K Wrote: I have been curious about this for a while now.I think you can only fly in Heavensward content. So the new zones, I think.
So for instance, hopping on your chocobo just outside the gates of Ul'dah and just taking off to the skies.
I am speaking explicitly from an RP lore standpoint though. Many people are content to accept what they see in-game as something that is legitimately canon and to be taken at face value, and while I am not suggesting that it's impossible for that to be the case, I just personally didn't imagine it to be normal for chocobo to fly.
And so I was wondering, out of the many people whom I assume own personal chocobo, how many of them will decide they can suddenly fly and be bringing that aspect into ARR area RP? Will many chocobo suddenly be seen flying around as though it were an unordinary sight?
(You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Telluride - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 11:22 AM)Knahli Wrote: (You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).
If I'm a Lalafellin trader in Thanalan, and I'm used to having to travel over the ground past all sorts of creatures that the very in-game-canon says really want to eat me (read some of the fate descriptions around Horizon), this becomes pretty important to me.
If I'm a (insert non-combatant person) traveling through (insert area filled with ground threats) and I find out that flying mounts exist suddenly, you bet your tuckus that I'm suddenly interested.
If I'm a Brass Blade, and I can suddenly fly over those Amal'jaa and drop firesand bombs on their positions, instead of putting myself in danger, you bet I want a flying Chocobo.
If I'm a Limsan Pirate captain, darned right I'm keeping a flying Chocobo on board, for the same kind of bombing runs against Garlean ships.
In fact, SE is going to have to spend a little time enforcing to us that flying mounts are terribly rare if they expect us to continue to take a LOT of their lore seriously. The reintroduction of air power in Eorzean hands (remember - Airships are RARE right now and Garlean Air Power is part of their threat) is a major plot point that.... well, I'm gonna be that guy and say it. I don't think SE is going to have thought this all the way through, but I will accept pleasant surprises, because frankly, I WANT to be wrong about it.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - CrimsonMars - 05-27-2015
I think Chiyo would like the idea of flying.
If not slightly awkward.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - K'nahli - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 11:32 AM)Telluride Wrote:(05-27-2015, 11:22 AM)K Wrote: (You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).
If I'm a Lalafellin trader in Thanalan, and I'm used to having to travel over the ground past all sorts of creatures that the very in-game-canon says really want to eat me (read some of the fate descriptions around Horizon), this becomes pretty important to me.
If I'm a (insert non-combatant person) traveling through (insert area filled with ground threats) and I find out that flying mounts exist suddenly, you bet your tuckus that I'm suddenly interested.
If I'm a Brass Blade, and I can suddenly fly over those Amal'jaa and drop firesand bombs on their positions, instead of putting myself in danger, you bet I want a flying Chocobo.
If I'm a Limsan Pirate captain, darned right I'm keeping a flying Chocobo on board, for the same kind of bombing runs against Garlean ships.
In fact, SE is going to have to spend a little time enforcing to us that flying mounts are terribly rare if they expect us to continue to take a LOT of their lore seriously. The reintroduction of air power in Eorzean hands (remember - Airships are RARE right now and Garlean Air Power is part of their threat) is a major plot point that.... well, I'm gonna be that guy and say it. I don't think SE is going to have thought this all the way through, but I will accept pleasant surprises, because frankly, I WANT to be wrong about it.
It's not so much about people ICly being willing to accept it, but moreover the fact that come Heavensward, they suddenly exist in regular areas as though it's nothing new to RP.
Unless it turns out that these are some special and rare breed from Ishgard that are now released to the wider realm or whatever.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Gegenji - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 11:42 AM)K'nahli Wrote: It's not so much about people ICly being willing to accept it, but moreover the fact that come Heavensward, they suddenly exist in regular areas as though it's nothing new to RP.
Unless it turns out that these are some special and rare breed from Ishgard that are now released to the wider realm or whatever.
I would assume that might be the case - since Ishgard has control over the breeding females (except in the case of the Gold Saucer birds? I'm still confused over that one), it wouldn't be surprising that they'd be the ones with the rare birds. Doubly so if they end up being considered a symbol of status or the like, such as being the personal mounts of the House leaders or something.
As for things suddenly being around that weren't before, we'll have that with the Au Ra already and also previously with Rogues/Ninjas.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Harmonixer - 05-27-2015
I had already planned on using the Bomb-Cart from the beast dailies. I went through the effort of unlocking it in the first place, I'll find a way to make it work ICly.
I don't see a problem with most of the mounts in ICly in general, obvious exceptions to some of them. Not everyone should be restricted to birds!
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Hyrist - 05-27-2015
It's established canon that one cannot fly unless attuning to a flight stone to catch the currents in the air.
So, without that function in the ARR zones, I won't be accepting flight (aside from Airships, perhaps) outside of Heavensward zones, until such can be done in the game proper. At that point I'd roleplay that whatever was necessary to have mounts be able to fly (as established by SE at that time or in headcannon) has happened and accept RP flying mounts in ARR zones.
As far as accepting it in Heavensward - at face value. They've written a story on how it's established, I assume that Aether usage can be considered the scapegoat on how a PC can maintain themselves on their mounts, and the same with helping odd creatures, such as Fat Chocobos fly.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Flickering Ember - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 11:22 AM)K Wrote:(05-27-2015, 10:52 AM)Flickering Ember Wrote:(05-27-2015, 10:04 AM)K Wrote: I have been curious about this for a while now.I think you can only fly in Heavensward content. So the new zones, I think.
So for instance, hopping on your chocobo just outside the gates of Ul'dah and just taking off to the skies.
I am speaking explicitly from an RP lore standpoint though. Many people are content to accept what they see in-game as something that is legitimately canon and to be taken at face value, and while I am not suggesting that it's impossible for that to be the case, I just personally didn't imagine it to be normal for chocobo to fly.
And so I was wondering, out of the many people whom I assume own personal chocobo, how many of them will decide they can suddenly fly and be bringing that aspect into ARR area RP? Will many chocobo suddenly be seen flying around as though it were an unordinary sight?
(You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).
OH!
Okay! I understand now. I won't rp my chocobo as being able to fly but I am totally okay with other people Rping that! I believe one should be able to RP out any mount they can obtain tbh.
I could see myself Rping Ember as flying on a dragon to get to places though. She is not adept at teleporting so prefers physical transportation.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - K'nahli - 05-27-2015
(05-27-2015, 11:48 AM)Gegenji Wrote:(05-27-2015, 11:42 AM)K'nahli Wrote: It's not so much about people ICly being willing to accept it, but moreover the fact that come Heavensward, they suddenly exist in regular areas as though it's nothing new to RP.
Unless it turns out that these are some special and rare breed from Ishgard that are now released to the wider realm or whatever.
I would assume that might be the case - since Ishgard has control over the breeding females (except in the case of the Gold Saucer birds? I'm still confused over that one), it wouldn't be surprising that they'd be the ones with the rare birds. Doubly so if they end up being considered a symbol of status or the like, such as being the personal mounts of the House leaders or something.
As for things suddenly being around that weren't before, we'll have that with the Au Ra already and also previously with Rogues/Ninjas.
Haha, yes. The sudden influx will be quite something and just a thing people will sort of have to deal with, albeit it's not quite the same since this would potentially be a change to something that was already in existence.
In any case, I am a little more reassured now that them being a special and "new" Ishgard breed will put that odd little circumstance to rest. It's an explanation at least!
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Cynel1 - 05-27-2015
Cyneler will Fly IC too but will limit to Chocobos for now.
RE: Flying Mounts and You - Aya - 05-27-2015
So, I don't really know about the particulars of flying in Heavensward. It may juts be strictly limited to the WoL? I figured its probably a more general thing from the way its being discussed here, and that's always been my assumption, but anyway, it certainly colors my feelings on FF XIV flight.
I honestly don't much care for flight in MMO's, I think it has a tendency to detract more than add. I especially feel like the idea of chocobos (or other obviously land bound creatures) flying is immersion and mood breaking in this game. Yeah, magic, blah, blah, blah, that's really not my point. You see a Fat Chocobo flying and have to accept it as canon and all of a sudden it feels like there's no reasonable frame of reference with which to take in the game world any more. Its just silliness, which is all good and fun in its time and place, but I feel like it creates an incredible amount of friction with the feel of Eorzea they've otherwise created.
Honestly, I'm left wondering why Chocobo mounted flying cavalry haven't dealt with the Dravanian threat (and Garlean airships) centuries ago.
Quote:It's established canon that one cannot fly unless attuning to a flight stone to catch the currents in the air.I missed this, and.. but.. no, I really won't know what to think of it until I see it and how prevalent it is. There's still this whole.. sea of clouds thing that I can't quite wrap my head around either...
Anyway, there's no chance that Aya herself will fly. Except by airship!