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RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Kellach Woods - 06-20-2015

All right here's bits of questlines I caught up on :

WAR -> Follow in the steps of Mythril Heart, legendary Warrior even among Warriors, by helping Curious Gorge's brother.

PLD -> Continuation of the Oathkeeper quest, with notices that it has been actually found but the free paladin that found it disappeared. You go through this with Papashan, btw.

BRD -> A prominent Bard student is sent alongside an Order of the Twin Adder enthusiast about songs in order to find the Ballad of Oblivion. You mentor them.

MNK -> Widargelt took on students, two orphaned miqo'te. You do a demonstration to them then he is suddenly attacked by a group using the arts of the Monk.

CRP -> A Templar Knight's lance is found in the Black Shroud, you hunt down the owner's son who requests your services to craft him a bow because he's not a dumbass like dear ol' dad.

BSM -> A noble house's servant fallen from grace seeks your expertise to craft weapons for his master, who will be attempting to win a Templar Knight competition to restore honor to her name.

ARM -> Blantsyr seeks to understand the danger that comes with people wearing the armor he crafts, so he dons a set of Wolfram Armor, and proceeds to get his ass handed to him by a rat. You decide to help him hone his craft even further.

CUL -> The Missing Member's head chef won a prestigious competition. You are tasked by the waitress to win the second competition to put his catboy ass in his place as he is an insufferable piece of shit.

GSM -> You are tasked by a Jewelry store to craft a masterpiece for an Immortal Flames' commander by virtue of his wife.

WVR -> Redolent Rose sends you to Ishgard in the hopes there's some extensive work to be done there. You end up becoming the private tailor to a sheltered young woman who really, REALLY hates the sheltering.

LTW -> Fen-Yll's fineries to Ishgard send you to refuse a client's request, which you do and he understands, but he pleads you to stay and help him create a leather goods store that accepts everyone's gil, rather than just the nobles' ('cause yeah apparently in Ishgard gil HAS a color!)

MIN -> House Fortemps has a commission for prospecting. Guess who's going? You also meet a sort of foreigner legion under House Fortemps' protection as well. And Hatchling. Can't forget Hatchling. They also call you Professor.

FSH -> An Ishgardian friend of Wawalago visits him, and forgets his rod at the guild. You bring it back to him, and the both of you tell fish tales as he invites you over to fish in Ishgard.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Mercer - 06-20-2015

(06-20-2015, 04:20 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: PLD ->   Papashan
The only thing that matters.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Gegenji - 06-20-2015

(06-20-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: during the initial Astrologian quest the following bit of text showed up and piqued my interest.

'have you learned nothing from the Nymians? the Amdapori? the Mcachi?'

given two of those three were involved in the war of the mages, could it therefore be that the other is the third as yet unamed one?

I think it may be confirmed, if not highly plausible. The SCH quest chain mentions a voidsent sealed into a pot that may be the cause of the Nymians' transformation into tonberries. Surito Carito (Scholarberry) even goes so far as to mention that "their magi trafficked with the void, grew mighty from the shadows and attacked our lands time and again!"

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Mercer - 06-20-2015

(06-20-2015, 06:39 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(06-20-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: during the initial Astrologian quest the following bit of text showed up and piqued my interest.

'have you learned nothing from the Nymians? the Amdapori? the Mcachi?'

given two of those three were involved in the war of the mages, could it therefore be that the other is the third as yet unamed one?

I think it may be confirmed, if not highly plausible. The SCH quest chain mentions a voidsent sealed into a pot that may be the cause of the Nymians' transformation into tonberries. Surito Carito (Scholarberry) even goes so far as to mention that "their magi trafficked with the void, grew mighty from the shadows and attacked our lands time and again!"

Void sealed into a pot? Would that be the same void creature that THM finds and releases before having to slay?

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Kellach Woods - 06-20-2015

Plausible but not confirmed. I'll try to get back on and keep at MSQ and start on WAR.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Aduu Avagnar - 06-21-2015

(06-20-2015, 06:39 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(06-20-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: during the initial Astrologian quest the following bit of text showed up and piqued my interest.

'have you learned nothing from the Nymians? the Amdapori? the Mcachi?'

given two of those three were involved in the war of the mages, could it therefore be that the other is the third as yet unamed one?

I think it may be confirmed, if not highly plausible. The SCH quest chain mentions a voidsent sealed into a pot that may be the cause of the Nymians' transformation into tonberries. Surito Carito (Scholarberry) even goes so far as to mention that "their magi trafficked with the void, grew mighty from the shadows and attacked our lands time and again!"
How does that make it less plausible?

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Leomoon - 06-21-2015

I just reached a point in the story talking more about the Drivanian war. I can not remember how long ago it was but they do mention that for two hundred years the Ealzen and Dragon kind lived in peace because of Shiva and her dragon lover. However the peace was broken with Nidhogs eye being stolen.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Kellach Woods - 06-21-2015

If Mujih Mewrilah makes it to Ishgard, everyone else can.

Which she does.

WAR 52 quest :
CURIOUS GORGE IS THE WORST FUCKING NPC MY FUCKING GOD.

Three guesses as to what happens to him and the first two don't count.

So, the path to mastery of the Warrior is literally "GO OUT THERE, WRECK SHIT, AND BE THE MOST FUCKING AWESOME ASSKICKER YOU CAN BE."

Okay so maybe I paraphrased, but yeah the Inner Beast rouses when you push yourself to the absolute limit.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Ronin'ra - 06-21-2015

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RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Aduu Avagnar - 06-21-2015

You don't have to put stuff in spoilers guys.... the clue is in the title.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Gegenji - 06-21-2015

(06-21-2015, 01:38 AM)Nako Wrote:
(06-20-2015, 06:39 PM)Gegenji Wrote:
(06-20-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: during the initial Astrologian quest the following bit of text showed up and piqued my interest.

'have you learned nothing from the Nymians? the Amdapori? the Mcachi?'

given two of those three were involved in the war of the mages, could it therefore be that the other is the third as yet unamed one?

I think it may be confirmed, if not highly plausible. The SCH quest chain mentions a voidsent sealed into a pot that may be the cause of the Nymians' transformation into tonberries. Surito Carito (Scholarberry) even goes so far as to mention that "their magi trafficked with the void, grew mighty from the shadows and attacked our lands time and again!"
How does that make it less plausible?

I meant that it is either confirmed or highly plausible. I vaguely remember Sounsyy mentioning a lot of Black Magic users turning to tampering with the void for access to even more power. Which could heavily hint as to the Mcachi being the third, Black Magic-focused faction in the War of the Magi.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Kellach Woods - 06-21-2015

Dusk Vigil Lore :

They got wrecked, then the troops mutinied, which was swiftly put down by Ser Yuhelmeric. The aide told them they were out of food, but Yuhelmeric pretty much said "Let's eat the mutineers", and thus they did.

This apparently makes them snow zombies.

Then a griffon showed up and RNG screwed me over.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Aaron - 06-21-2015

Dravanians show love and compassion for each other,  in one quest after killing the Dragon you find it holding scales from its dead friends in memory of them.

They aren't mindless killers.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Kellach Woods - 06-21-2015

Except for Nidhogg's thralls, but they're pretty much "fuck everyone" at this point.

RE: [Spoilers] heavensward lore discussion - Gegenji - 06-21-2015

(06-21-2015, 01:11 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Except for Nidhogg's thralls, but they're pretty much "fuck everyone" at this point.

Nidhogg himself is not a friendly guy, either... but it's kinda understandable considering what happened to him.