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RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Flickering Ember - 07-12-2015
I don't feel it when I am DPSing.
But I DO when I tank. Tanking opens you up for much more criticism since our mistakes are more noticeable. I've been working up the courage to tank in DF again after a particularly terrible run with party members so asshole-ish that I actually dropped the party and left the dungeon. (Something I NEVER do)
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Kellach Woods - 07-12-2015
I tank in DF.
If they aren't happy, offer advice, themselves, or stfu.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Dante Abigor - 07-12-2015
Rather than anxiety about people hating my dungeoning I get anxiety from the other players mostly.
Is the healer going to be like...a good healer? Are the DPS going to run ahead of me and pull? If we wipe is someone going to auto rage quit?
These things drive me nuts, especially the second I identify something out of the ordinary.
A great source of stress for me as a tank though comes from really good dps AND a great healer. Im then playing juggle the hate while I bite my nails watching the bars, my DoTs, positioning, if any new monsters show up(cause i like doing blind runs of dungeons sometimes, did it just earlier with Fractal Continuum and had a grand ol time til the final boss), and wondering when the best time to use my Gcds are. Its admittedly good stress though, Im never like....really freaking out over it, more like I think up all these emergency rotations and try to match everyone elses play style at once.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Caspar - 07-13-2015
No. If I'm criticized, I adjust. It's not likely I'll meet them again.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Cato - 07-13-2015
Ultimately not everybody is cut out for being a tank or healer since there's - arguably - a lot more pressure then there is as a DPS. With that said I've been lucky enough for the majority of my groups to be fairly present. I still get the occasional bad apple from time to time but I've learned to filter them out. If you're met with abuse over an honest mistake then don't be afraid to make use of the report function and distance yourself by taking your leave. Then go cool off, relax and come back later.
For trickier content it's usually best to go with some friends. Or maybe create a group through the party finder or through the use of this site. At least then if you screw up there's a high chance that people will just laugh it off, offer advice and generally just be understanding - especially if they inform them that you're still getting to grips with everything.
Don't feel ashamed if watching videos and studying guides proves to be overwhelming. People have different methods of gathering information and many - like me - are much better suited to picking up new skills through engaging in content directly instead of trying to study a guide/video.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Rosamund - 07-13-2015
I rarely run into rude people in this game but I have bad memories from WoW so I feel nervous doing dungeons sometimes, even as dps. If a melee LB is mandatory, for example, oh man haha. Chrysalis had me in a cold sweat the first time I did it and everyone said it was down to me to LB the tear. I didn't even know what the tear looked like! There's also that niggling worry whether my dps is up to par.
Anyway, you're not alone in feeling nervous but, if you enjoy the role, I'd say keep doing it and turn off party chat. Or get friends to go with you.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Lekka Meyren - 07-13-2015
Generally do not have this anxiety, probably because I vastly prefer roles where I can have a larger impact and compensate for others mistakes. So I play healer and tank.
What I -DO- have is an intense cynicism and growing hatred for people who mess up unrepentantly. Â This does not mean I rage or yell at rookies; I generally am super happy to tell them tactics and take a few wipes as a given.
...But the DPS who pull when I'm tanking. the DPS who stand in orange stuff when I am healing, The tank who doesn't use their defensive stance and angrily goes "Fine." when I tell them to because my Mp hits 0% on trash.
I HATE them with a burning passion.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Griffith! - 07-13-2015
(07-13-2015, 04:41 AM)Lekka Meyren Wrote: ...But the DPS who pull when I'm tanking.
This. I super hate this. I always take this as a sign things are going to go poorly.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Tierney Weaver - 07-13-2015
FFXIV's community is nothing like WoW, the playerbase in general is very forgiving. If you wipe 4-5 times, don't expect them to welcome you with open arms but you shouldn't worry, just keep on improving, learn from your mistakes and you'll be fine.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Martiallais - 07-13-2015
Gonna repeat a lot of what's been said as I definitely am one to get a bit of 'tank nerves' the first time I'm in a run or even randomly queue'ing now and then. I agree stating up front if it's your first time in a place (I usually run with friends my first time or two in a place if I can help it for this reason) is a good idea. And honestly as someone who plays tank and dps I like to be ready/prepped to offer aid in either role if needed.
I've found, for me at least, that things like marking and instructions can make a run smooth. I try not to assume people will know what to do unless I don't see the 'new player completion bonus' message. Just remember that as the tank, you set the pace that you (and your healer) are comfortable at. If people don't like that, they can leave but don't feel you have to pull a giant chunk of the dungeon if you aren't ready for it. Just communicate and more often than not people are glad to work with you to see things through.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Threndual - 07-13-2015
Hah, this is my first play through of FFXIV And I chose a Warrior because A) Greataxs are bad ass and B) I heard they were one of the hardest classes to play and C) I enjoy tanking.
I realize I'm gonna get a LOT of stick of certain people for screwing up a lot in my first few weeks but the trick is to just not give a crap. People who get mad when they play games are just idiots who should take a step back and consider what it is they're getting mad about. That somebody somewhere in the world who they are playing with and will likely never meet made the pixels on his screen move in a way he didn't want them to.
Such a brilliant thing it get mad over.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Mountie - 07-13-2015
(07-13-2015, 04:41 AM)Lekka Meyren Wrote: Generally do not have this anxiety, probably because I vastly prefer roles where I can have a larger impact and compensate for others mistakes. So I play healer and tank.This is the reason I only play SMN DPS. Dat Battle-rez.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - LadyRochester - 07-13-2015
I only get nervous because I let things bug me too much for too long.
Lately, there seems to be a rampant "blame the healer" mentality. While I usually don't have any problems healing, there are some instances that truly test my patience as a player. There was this one particular situation where the tank was facing mobs towards the party, kept losing aggro to me and the dragoon, and the monk just stood in EVERY aoe in boss fights. Dragoon and I were fine, but the other two were extremely annoying to work with. We wiped on the last boss twice because of the monk's lack of dps and the fact he kept dying. At the end of the run, mnk went "healer was horrible" and left.
Drg said I was fine and tha the two were being shitty.
But of course, I, as the healer, am to blame for their mistakes.
I wish I could say this happened once, but while this is rare, it does happen, and situations like this deeply upset me and turn me off from pugging any PvE content.
Despite being an unpopular opinion, this is one of the reason I wish for in-game parsers, so people were able to see how they are performing before they point fingers at others. I, as a player, appreciate constructive criticism when I see it's accurate, but I know many don't agree.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Manari - 07-13-2015
I know exactly what the OP is talking about. I used to tank all the time in FFXI and I never felt much anxiety, in fact I really enjoyed it. But it wasn't difficult compared to what we have to do as tanks in FFXIV. I actually started maining Warrior at the very beginning of 2.0 and I did it for a long time. But eventually the pressure started to wear on me and I hated being in the spotlight for every mistake I made.
What I started doing back then (I had all jobs at 50 already from 1.0) was doing all the dungeons as healer first to learn them, then tanking them later after having a better understanding. But I understand that it's not that easy in 3.0 with the level cap raised. Honestly I've been thinking about getting back into tanking eventually once the flood of tanks lowers it's tide again.
RE: Dungeon Anxiety - Hammersmith - 07-13-2015
As a tank main: It's usually pretty chill. Â Pull, make all the hate, continue. Â Adjust if you die.
I've only really had problems when people decide to do my job for me and go pulling, or purposely focusing things they shouldn't have.
That's a paddlin. Â Normally gets their ass kicked though.