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RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Warren Castille - 09-22-2015

(09-22-2015, 03:30 PM)Steel Wolf Wrote: I always assumed that those thrust forward in time were all Adventurers who maybe were the Warrior of Light but who knows, so Louisoix just netted the lot to be safe.

In the cutscenes, the Derplander I understood to be the Big Shiny in the narrative.

Warrior of Light has two meanings in XIV: The Warriors of Light (plural) were the bands of adventurers who fought at Carteneau, and were sent forward to ARR. The Warrior of Light (singular) is The Hero in ARR. Midlander is the default Warrior of Light for ARR, unless you're subsuming him, at which point I imagine he's just another of the Warriors of Light.

THIS IS SO SIMPLE AND NOT CONFUSING AT ALL.

RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Sounsyy - 09-22-2015

The group of Adventurers who were thrust into Louisoix's spell were called The Twelvesblades and were a group under contract from the Archons to protect Louisoix while he summoned the power of the Twelve to protect Eorzea. These were the only people canonically transported in the Thaliak time-spell. Everyone else was left to die or flee the battle.

After the Twelvesblades entered the rift through time, the common people of Eorzea who knew of this group of Adventurers forgot who they were, because Hydaelyn reasons. Whenever they tried to recall their names or faces, they simply saw a silhouetted figure bathed in light. This is what brought about the term: "Warriors of Light," again, referring to these Twelvesblades who ignored the order to retreat, facing death to protect Louisoix.

When the Twelvesblade(s) returned from the rift five years later, no one remembered who they were, but their following deeds reminded the people of the Warriors of Light of five years past. Hence why the Main Character starts getting called a Warrior of Light. The name sticks, and through the storyline and some more research with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn it is discovered that this person has a deep connection with Hydaelyn - being Her Chosen. Now the dubbed "the Warrior of Light" slowly becomes a reference to Hydaelyn Light, and less so the Light of the forgotten warriors on Carteneau.

So there is only a handful of THE "Warriors of Light," in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. There are a few, but multiple warriors of light, referring to the Twelvesblades of Carteneau.

Hope that clears up some confusion!


EDIT: Here's some additional back up from Fernehalwes, after it was revealed that Ysayle was also a Warrior of Light, in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. Hydaelyn has many chosen, just none that are as publicly active as THE Warrior of Light, the player character.

Lorecast #6 Wrote:Q: In one of the early quests, you see other people in the aetherial realm flying around the Mothercrystal. Who are they? Other adventurers?

MCKF: Yeah, the Mothercrystal talks to many people. You’re the Warrior of Light, but she has to have other options. Not everyone is Warrior of Light material and there are lots of other things going on.


RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Manari - 09-22-2015

(09-22-2015, 04:06 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: The group of Adventurers who were thrust into Louisoix's spell were called The Twelvesblades and were a group under contract from the Archons to protect Louisoix while he summoned the power of the Twelve to protect Eorzea. These were the only people canonically transported in the Thaliak time-spell. Everyone else was left to die or flee the battle.

After the Twelvesblades entered the rift through time, the common people of Eorzea who knew of this group of Adventurers forgot who they were, because Hydaelyn reasons. Whenever they tried to recall their names or faces, they simply saw a silhouetted figure bathed in light. This is what brought about the term: "Warriors of Light," again, referring to these Twelvesblades who ignored the order to retreat, facing death to protect Louisoix.

When the Twelvesblade(s) returned from the rift five years later, no one remembered who they were, but their following deeds reminded the people of the Warriors of Light of five years past. Hence why the Main Character starts getting called the Warrior of Light. The name sticks, and through the storyline and some more research with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn it is discovered that this person has a deep connection with Hydaelyn - being Her Chosen. Now the dubbed "Warrior of Light" slowly becomes a reference to Hydaelyn Light, and less so the Light of the forgotten warriors on Carteneau.

So there is only one "Warrior of Light," in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. There are a few, but multiple warriors of light, referring to the Twelvesblades of Carteneau.

Hope that clears up some confusion!


That's not the only way the story can go, however.  If you played 1.0 and reached a certain point in the 1.0 storyline, your character is teleported through time.  When you logged into FFXIV 2.0 for the very first time, your character appears from a portal near whatever city you set your starting class as during the 1-time character change they gave 1.0 players before beta.  


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RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Candor - 09-22-2015

(08-29-2015, 12:19 AM)Yunas13 Wrote: Is time travel possible? I had an idea but I'm not sure if it is even allowed.

It's not about what you do, but how you do it. Unless you join an FC with explicit rules regarding character concepts, you can literally do whatever you want. The RP community is unmoderated. There is no one to tell you what is and isn't permitted. And anyone who says otherwise is confused.

So, don't try to decide if you can do this or not. Just figure out how you can do it well.

RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Hammersmith - 09-22-2015

(09-22-2015, 04:40 PM)Candor Wrote:
(08-29-2015, 12:19 AM)Yunas13 Wrote: Is time travel possible? I had an idea but I'm not sure if it is even allowed.

It's not about what you do, but how you do it. Unless you join an FC with explicit rules regarding character concepts, you can literally do whatever you want. The RP community is unmoderated. There is no one to tell you what is and isn't permitted. And anyone who says otherwise is confused.

So, don't try to decide if you can do this or not. Just figure out how you can do it well.


This is a good general rule!

However when you ask a forum for plausibility, it means you're looking for lore reasoning, people are going to weigh in with what the lore shows.

Thankfully there's plenty of reasons, as show, that this could happen, without bending or ignoring established stuff in the game (Though you are certainly free to do so if you so wish!)

RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Sounsyy - 09-22-2015

(09-22-2015, 04:38 PM)Manari Wrote: That's not the only way the story can go, however.  If you played 1.0 and reached a certain point in the 1.0 storyline, your character is teleported through time.  When you logged into FFXIV 2.0 for the very first time, your character appears from a portal near whatever city you set your starting class as during the 1-time character change they gave 1.0 players before beta.

Well, yes, any player who completed the 1.0 quest "United We Stand" will get the Legacy teleport intro, according to Camate, however, just because you get the legacy cutscenes doesn't necessarily mean they all make sense from a narrative/lore perspective.

For instance, players who fulfilled the special cutscene requirements will get a special conversation with Cid on their way to fight Garuda in which Cid remembers taking them on the airship to face Nael van Darnus in the 1.0 quest "To Kill a Raven," but if you never defeated Nael van Darnus in 1.0, you never actually had that conversation with Cid. Furthermore, it's through the "Living on a Legend" quest that the Main Character actually goes under oath to protect Louisoix on Carteneau and becomes one of the Twelvesblades. So, unless you completed that quest, your character canonically has no reason to be by Louisoix's side at the time of the Thaliak rift. Everyone else was ordered to retreat well before this event.

If we're being technical, my 1.0 alt at the time was sitting in Ul'dah when the servers went down. She still got teleported time-rift style when she logged into 2.0. Whereas my main who was actively fighting Garleans during the epic-server-crash-Calamity-2012 was also teleported. So you can't really go on legacy status alone. Sure, you can of course say you were teleported by Louisoix's spell, my previous post was just very simply stating the lore/story reason as to why you were teleported - which is, you were under contract with the Archons to protect Louisioix during the final moments and thus were a member of the Twelvesblades, now known as the forgotten warriors of light.

RE: Wonder if this is possible.....(RP or for Fanfic) - Mia Moui - 09-22-2015

(09-22-2015, 02:59 PM)Hammersmith Wrote:
(09-22-2015, 02:57 PM)Mia Moui Wrote: ...

Aether messes things up though. There's no real reason you couldn't wake up in the middle of Cartineu 5 years later and have no idea what just happened.  There could be a LOT of reasons, from Time Shenanigans, to Void Portals, to Dues Ex Realm Rebornia at Cartineau.

It's not bending much to do such, as long as you weave the reason into the char and use it to give drive to some action.

I like this.  My character's backstory takes place at the same time as Cartineau but that's just a coincidence.  The moon exploding freaked out her attackers allowing her and her sisters to escape.  But the very next moment, she wakes up slung over the shoulder of an unnamed adventurer and it's five years later.

I honestly don't have the best reasons for skipping time, except that the game starts five years after the Calamity and I want her to be 20 instead of 25.

I'm just shy of 3 weeks in with the character so I might go ahead and retcon what I've written down to remove the time skip.  If I don't have a narrative besides "gee whiz that's weird," it's not worth including.