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RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Not Permitted - Gabineaux - 06-16-2016

(06-16-2016, 06:12 PM)Caspar Wrote:
(06-16-2016, 05:34 PM)Hyakki Wrote:
(06-16-2016, 03:27 PM)Nero Wrote: The sale of FCs is still allowed, basically on the premise that the FC is the item being traded and the house is just an aspect of that item.

There's the loophle needed to carry on with house scalping. Create and level a FC, buy a plot, claim you're charging for time/gil invested into the company.
They could do that, but at least this time it requires you to go through the trouble of leaving your FC and gathering others to help level it, which will take time rather than just gil which players have outrageous amounts of. It might slow scalpers down. Key word being "might."

Gathering others to help level it? I did it alone, more or less. I was given the empty FC by a friend at rank 6 and leveled it the rest of the way myself, gathered the points to buy flight credits myself, on my own. I'm still doing it alone. Making airship pieces alone, only asking for randos/online friends in other FCs to stand in the workshop with me when needed. But I'm doing it for me, not to sell for a profit. I would have a real FC if I could get myself out there and uh, y'know, think of something that hasn't been done before or isn't overdone. I managed to get a small plot for this fc for the price of a medium plot, which is GENEROUS right now, from a nice couple of guys who moved on to bigger and better plots.

EDIT: And people have leveled FCs to rank 6 only to sell the FC themselves.. you know why. LOL. It's VERY easy to level an FC alone. Run experts, roll on everything, roll greed, hand in for points. Before you know it, it's leveled and has points. Spend the points on housing items!

RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Not Permitted - Virella - 06-16-2016

My friends and I levelled a FC to r6 in... 3 days x_X

RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Advertisements Temporarily Suspended - Nero - 06-16-2016

After further consideration and examination and complete failure to find a definitive answer from Square Enix on the subject, threads advertising the sale of housing are temporarily suspended until the official transcription of the Live Letter is available.

Unofficial translations of the live-letter seem to be unable to agree on whether or not selling houses entirely is actionable or whether or not simply flipping is actionable. I think it's fair to consider those sources unreliable.

Basically, we'll be erring on the safe side regarding the selling of houses as long as its status a bannable in-game offence is still ambiguous.

RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Advertisements Temporarily Suspended - Enla - 06-16-2016

(06-16-2016, 09:17 PM)Virella Wrote: My friends and I levelled a FC to r6 in... 3 days x_X
And I'm still getting PTSD when around elevators. ;___;

RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Advertisements Temporarily Suspended - Caspar - 06-17-2016

(06-16-2016, 10:09 PM)Enla Wrote:
(06-16-2016, 09:17 PM)Virella Wrote: My friends and I levelled a FC to r6 in... 3 days x_X
And I'm still getting PTSD when around elevators. ;___;
That's hardcore lol.

Still, I mean, it's not much, but I think it's a small barrier that makes price flipping less effortless. It's the first major decision they've made combating the housing problem since the automatic sale if away from the game for too long, aside from ineffectual attempts to add more. I hope they are willing to try more in-depth measures in the future.

RE: [6-16-2016] Sale of Housing Advertisements Temporarily Suspended - Darkfae - 06-18-2016

I don't normally say much here, never really have.


From what I've seen of the initial GM raid, and what I've seen from petitions that were sent in, it seems to be any sort of house flipping in general. Here's what we got from a GM when one of my Alliance members asked about things the day of the last round of housing releases, during the initial GM raid while housing flippers were locked in GM Gaol:


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This makes it sound like any resale of any kind of estate and land is against the TOS, including FC estates/land.


I would advise that any sort of resale activity involving estates/lands be considered a huge nope, and not be allowed to be discussed anywhere on the site, and I'd advise people not to solicit such on their personal sites or Tumblrs from now on. Just to be safe.