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RE: can you help me - Raccoon - 08-03-2013
I think I saw somewhere that half-breeds are sterile too. Not really relevant to playing one, but forget actually RPing family situations one day.
On an off-topic side note, you'll want to be sure you treat your character as your character, not as an extension of yourself. You kept saying "my father" and such. Referring to the character's family as "his/her family" is the first step to distancing yourself from your character and all the potential drama that may arise in his/her life.
RE: can you help me - K'nahli - 08-03-2013
(08-02-2013, 08:42 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:(08-02-2013, 08:40 PM)[email protected] Wrote: ok im trying to come up a backgound for my charcter and i was thinking on saying hes halfblooded like my father was a knight of ul dah and my mom was a mage from the drake tribe could ido that what do you guys thinkCould you be more specific? Knight isn't really a race, and I don't think there are any knights in Ul'dah unless you count the Sultanate.
Sorry to go off-topic, but you've hit on something related to one of my characters and I didn't want to make a topic over it. Would it be fine if I were to say that he was a castle guard and/or from some noble family in Ul'dah(perhaps not the Sultanate, that sounds too prestigious and well known). I wanted to give him some higher and more privileged ties without being it being too famous or making him well-known throughout Eorzea(or even Ul'dah for that matter).
RE: can you help me - FreelanceWizard - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 11:19 AM)Knahli Wrote: Sorry to go off-topic, but you've hit on something related to one of my characters and I didn't want to make a topic over it. Would it be fine if I were to say that he was a castle guard and/or from some noble family in Ul'dah(perhaps not the Sultanate, that sounds too prestigious and well known). I wanted to give him some higher and more privileged ties without being it being too famous or making him well-known throughout Eorzea(or even Ul'dah for that matter).
There's a fair number of extremely rich and "noble" families in Ul'dah, in addition to being guards on the upper parts of the city. (Kylin can probably speak more to this than I can; it's one of his areas of lore expertise.) Those guards are part of the Immortal Flames and loyal to the Sultanate politically. That doesn't mean that any individual has strong ties to the Sultanate, of course, and since the Immortal Flames is a Grand Company, you can join it in game.
All in all, I think your concept is good as long as you don't tie back to canon characters or the Sultanate itself -- which you said you didn't want to do.
You could, for instance, play a member of a rich merchant house that gets a cushy palace guard position in the Immortal Flames, which gives you the connections you want.
RE: can you help me - Kellen whitewolf - 08-03-2013
you guys make a real good point and your right it would be hard to pull off and as for the knight part i just thought they're was one im still learning the lore this helps me know if its stupid or not
RE: can you help me - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013
My only gripe with the whole knight thing is that traditionally it requires a sovereign to actually grant you the title, so as far as a knight of Ul'dah goes it would require the Sultana to grant you the title, and typically that would make you a part of her Sultanate. The other thing is that Knights weren't always gallant and adventurous, a lot of times they were glorified medieval celebrities.
RE: can you help me - Asyria - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 11:09 AM)Raccoon Wrote: On an off-topic side note, you'll want to be sure you treat your character as your character, not as an extension of yourself. You kept saying "my father" and such. Referring to the character's family as "his/her family" is the first step to distancing yourself from your character and all the potential drama that may arise in his/her life.
While that is true, pen&paper RPers have been doing this for decades.
In a mmorpg, we use 3rd-person all the time but in D&D and other such games, most speak in 1st person when describing their characters or their actions.
"I draw my sword and charge the goblin!"
or
"My father was a simple farmer but I wished for adventures and treasure hunting..."
It's just a different way to say things.
RE: can you help me - Gideon Aryeh - 08-03-2013
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Perhaps your dad was one of the Paladins of the Sultana, the ones you see in the quests in Ul'dah during the game. There are many faceless "joes" that pop up in these scenes Idk why your dad couldn't be one of them. I can see why someone would confuse these guys (the ones that pop up with Papashan) with being knights.
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In Ul'dah the equivalent of knight would be a Paladin. I don't see it being a problem honestly. It can be done quite easily but I would not put more into it than that due to the fact that you aren't that knowledgeable about the lore. I would also agree to put more thought into your own character and leave that fact about your father as it is. Something in the background your character can be proud of and that's it. Maybe papa introduced your character to the Sultana once when your character was a child and that inspired your character somehow? But don't play into it any more than that.
RE: can you help me - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 03:53 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote: Hmmm....I have an ideaThe people you're referring to are the Sultanate, who as I said would be the closest thing to actual knights in Ul'dah given they're hand picked by the Sultana. As far as I know only a small handful of them are actually named character, during one point in the main scenario in Ul'dah you see a ton of them without names.
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Perhaps your dad was one of the Paladins of the Sultana, the ones you see in the quests in Ul'dah during the game. There are many faceless "joes" that pop up in these scenes Idk why your dad couldn't be one of them. I can see why someone would confuse these guys (the ones that pop up with Papashan) with being knights.
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In Ul'dah the equivalent of knight would be a Paladin. I don't see it being a problem honestly. It can be done quite easily but I would not put more into it than that due to the fact that you aren't that knowledgeable about the lore. I would also agree to put more thought into your own character and leave that fact about your father as it is. Something in the background your character can be proud of and that's it. Maybe papa introduced your character to the Sultana once when your character was a child and that inspired your character somehow? But don't play into it any more than that.
RE: can you help me - Ildur - 08-03-2013
The Sultanate is the form of goverment. It's like saying "The Republic" or "The Kingdom". What he meant by 'paladins of the Sultana' was "Sultansworn". That's their official name. They are not knights, though, in the sense that they have no lands or nobility title: they are just elite soldiers. Like roman Praetorian Guard, in a way.
It makes sense for them to be 'paladins', from a gameplay viewpoint, because gladiators hail from Ul'dah and I think their uniform is similar to the paladin artifact armor.
RE: can you help me - Averis - 08-03-2013
Those asking about noble families, I started a post about that a while ago, which may help. http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2368
RE: can you help me - K'nahli - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 11:40 AM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:(08-03-2013, 11:19 AM)K Wrote: Sorry to go off-topic, but you've hit on something related to one of my characters and I didn't want to make a topic over it. Would it be fine if I were to say that he was a castle guard and/or from some noble family in Ul'dah(perhaps not the Sultanate, that sounds too prestigious and well known). I wanted to give him some higher and more privileged ties without being it being too famous or making him well-known throughout Eorzea(or even Ul'dah for that matter).
There's a fair number of extremely rich and "noble" families in Ul'dah, in addition to being guards on the upper parts of the city. (Kylin can probably speak more to this than I can; it's one of his areas of lore expertise.) Those guards are part of the Immortal Flames and loyal to the Sultanate politically. That doesn't mean that any individual has strong ties to the Sultanate, of course, and since the Immortal Flames is a Grand Company, you can join it in game.
All in all, I think your concept is good as long as you don't tie back to canon characters or the Sultanate itself -- which you said you didn't want to do.
Thank you very much ^^ Actually, he would have been a former guard so hopefully that will cause even less hassle. I'm happy to know it fits in neatly then, thank you once again.
RE: can you help me - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 04:06 PM)Ildur Wrote: What he meant by 'paladins of the Sultana' was "Sultansworn".You're totally right, I got the names confused.
RE: can you help me - Gideon Aryeh - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 04:19 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:Â I called them that to make it easier to understand for those new to the lore and point out that they are Paladins and not knights. That's all.(08-03-2013, 04:06 PM)Ildur Wrote: What he meant by 'paladins of the Sultana' was "Sultansworn".You're totally right, I got the names confused.
RE: can you help me - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013
(08-03-2013, 04:38 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote:No no, I wasn't trying to correct you. I was just saying what they were called, though I ended up being wrong myself!(08-03-2013, 04:19 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:Â I called them that to make it easier to understand for those new to the lore and point out that they are Paladins and not knights. That's all.(08-03-2013, 04:06 PM)Ildur Wrote: What he meant by 'paladins of the Sultana' was "Sultansworn".You're totally right, I got the names confused.