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RE: Decision between Servers - halceeuhn - 08-03-2013

Exactly why I chose Gilgamesh, to start our own community Big Grin

RE: Decision between Servers - Kellen whitewolf - 08-03-2013

i have no problem playing with legacy or non legacy players the only thing i would be scared of is being look down or even laught at i mean i can take a joke but if legacy player is just being rude then its uncall for

RE: Decision between Servers - Kyren - 08-03-2013

This is a pretty unique situation, given that (as far as I know) this is the only major MMO to ever release then get shutdown and remade. This is the way I see it though... Balmung, while it may already have established groups and cliques and storylines that have taken place, it also has the most stable group of core RPers, given that these are the players who have been in the game the most and already have a ton invested in their characters and the quality of the RP community.

Now, it would be easy to look at that and see those players as potentially being elitist or RP snobs who don't want new players coming in and mucking up their storylines. And sure, there probably are at least some players who are like that. But as a whole? I'd imagine the old RP community would love for nothing more than a wave of new roleplayers with new characters and new idea to come in and bring new life to the community. After all, half the fun of RPing is meeting and interacting with new characters and sharing new stories together. So really, an already stable community with dedicated core roleplayers AND incoming new roleplayers? That sounds pretty good to me.

And, this is just my own personal opinion, but I think the whole movement of players going to Gilgamesh sucks. I mean, nothing against those who are, because I know why they're doing it and I totally understand the reasoning behind it, but at the end of the day the end result is that it's fragmenting the potential community between servers. Personally I think it'd just be funner having all the roleplayers in one place, so it's kind of disappointing.

Anyway, that's basically the reasoning in my head for why I chose Balmung.

RE: Decision between Servers - ArmachiA - 08-03-2013

It's a common misconception there won't be any trailblazing on Balmung. There are going to be much more new people on that server than Legacy, there will be a LOT of trailblazing.

My guild is planning on being one of them and out of the 40 people signed up... 3 are legacy. Tongue

RE: Decision between Servers - Desmond Aryll - 08-03-2013

It's true that this is a unique situation in MMO's where the game is essentially launching twice.

This is a new game for me and I just feel like I want to share the sense of wonder and discovery with everyone. Gilgamesh will be closer to that for me. Not to say that Balmung won't have that too but pre-existing 1.0 history will change the flow of things. That's not a good or bad thing but it is a preference.

RE: Decision between Servers - AFriendOfAFriend - 08-03-2013

I played on both Legacy and Non-Legacy during Phase 3 (specifically, Balmung and Leviathan). Both servers had their ups and downs - Balmung seemed very open and welcoming, you didn't have to fight eight hundred other players for mobs at level 1-10, and from a shear gameplay standpoint it was less laggy. In that same breath it at times felt empty, especially when trying to do FATEs and the like.

Leviathan again had a nice general community, but it was also full of trolls and the like spamming the /shout channel with nonsensical arguments and idiocy. It was also very, very crowded, and I had some slowdown problems as a result (this likely also had to do with my playing on PS3, but still the difference was there). Not saying Gilgamesh will be a troll playing ground, but that it will more populated than Balmung is a given. Gilgamesh has also been designated the Reddit server, so take from that what you will.

Legacy-haters are quick to say that the economy will be heavily skewed away from the noobies, but I saw no evidence of this in beta. With the better armors being quest/dungeon rewards, and Disciple of the Land/Hand being fairly self-fulfilling, I imagine the economy will be pretty stable no matter what server you play on.

In terms of RP, that's more personal preference. I like the idea of an established community, and the players of the RPC at least seem keen on letting the new blood flow. That being said I can understand wanting to build from the ground up, and tip my hat to anyone who is choosing to do so.

In terms of gameplay, do firsts matter to you? Do you want to be the first Dragoon/Paladin/Monk/White Mage/Black Mage/Bard/Warrior? Do you want to be the first to take on Ifrit or Garuda? The first to 50, the first to get Artifact Armor, Relic Weapons, etc and so on?

Again it's all a matter of personal style, and again I suggest trying both before making a decision. I did so in the beta, and it led me to choosing Balmung. Whichever you end up playing on, I'm sure the RP community will be welcoming and wish you luck in your adventurers.

RE: Decision between Servers - Gideon Aryeh - 08-03-2013

(08-03-2013, 05:32 PM)Vaux Wrote: As it's apparent this is my first post, due to my nature to be, as my valiant title suggests; a Wall Flower. - I usually never speak up or post. However, the time has come! I apologize in advance if this topic is littered on the forums, or it's in the wrong section. I did my best to search for related and none that I saw really answered my concern. 

Anyways, I've been roleplaying for quite a long time, nearly nine years, and I wasn't part of the previous incarnation of FFXIV, so the community here is new to me. My concern is between Balmung and Gilgamesh. As I've discovered, Balmung is the original RP server, and is now the Legacy server for FFXIV:ARR, which means the majority of Veterans will dive back to that server, and a hunk of the newer people will dive there as well due to numbers and an already developed community.

Gilgamesh is a new server, and the community has the intention of expanding and fleshing out it's secondary base here (As I've read all over the forums and their ambitions are glorious.) Now, my ordeal is that I'm new to this community, and from my standpoint Gilgamesh is more.. attractive, essentially. Reasons being, that Balmung I'm sure has multiple fleshed out storylines and groups that have already been established, and it's intimating to take the step forwards. 

In my view, it's similar to a group of people who are all friends, chatting away, and the new guys (Moi.) are timid to step forwards and try to get friendly with them. I know that this community and RPers in general are angels when it comes to social interaction, but it's still... unappealing to try and wedge myself inside an already molded situation.

Gilgamesh obviously has a clean slate, and even though there are veterans there, they still need people to make the community blossom as a vibrant RP hub, however I fear that the numbers will lack due to it's big brother's already established community.


LONG STORY SHORT: Gilgamesh is appealing due to being a part of the creation, and it feels like it would be easier to 'fit in' so to speak, yet I fear that eventually the water will run dry and RP will be few and far between because the majority is on the father server.

Balmung is appealing due to it's larger RP base and established community, yet intimating to think about having to try and wiggle into the scene with the impairment of, essentially shyness.

I am not sure if I'm alone in these thoughts, but I have a feeling there are a lot more people in my position of undecided thoughts. SO, Gilgamesh or Balmung?
 Your decision should be based on what you want to do as a roleplayer
 
What I mean is this
 
Balmung will have an established group yes, but it will have more NEW people than old. Even if some of the old community turn out to be, well not so great you will have so many new people to flood them out. If you want most of my friends are going to Balmung so I can shoot you some pms on who to talk to if you are shy and want to meet people to hang out with. Balmung offers the advantage of having a foundation. Its been there. people know it. Most roleplayers on this site are going there. It will be easier to meet people who are going there now because of this site. The numbers from here back it up and its a great place for a new shy roleplayer to go because there is less startup involved as far as rp.
 
 
And then there is Gilgamesh, the wildchild, the new one the sometimes unwanted one. Its going to have two communities that carry bad reps with them. Reddit and 4chan. Many roleplayers are downright scared of these communities due to fear of griefing and past experiences which I more than understand. I'm a griefer fighter by nature so dealing with them doesn't bother me personally as they will always be there, even on Balmung. But I know a secret *whispers* There is a huuuge number of people who want to roleplay on Gilgamesh, even from these two baaaaad communities. Lots of them, but the problem is most of them don't come to this site. *keeps whispering* Yep its true. I even have links to their site asking about roleplaying or expressing interest in roleplaying. Many going to Gilgamesh are on this site already and are just more lurkers than anything, so we will meet many of them during beta 4, early access and launch.
 
     Rping on Gilgamesh is going to require more patience. You may not always get rp when you want it and how you want it (though I seriously doubt this honestly I think we will be just fine from the get go). Those who are strong enough to endure the beginning will persevere there. Strong Free Comany leaders who are moving their free companies there will shine like a diamond on a clear summer day. We all are new, and there will be trials and tribulations but those who are of strong spirit and drive will make it succeed. During beta 4 I got a lot of interest going there, people are downright happy that roleplayers will be there. One person told me they were very happy about how diverse the community will be with the addition of roleplayers. So it definitely has its pros and cons and I won't lie to anyone about them either. But I also know the full truths about BOTH servers. If you decide to join us I can promise you the rp will NOT dry up. There will be beta 4 established linkshells to connect all the roleplayers. And there are already three events that will be forthcoming between beta 4 and launch so that people will know that there will be roleplaying on the server.
 
So the question is, what do you want to do? Make your decision on what you want to do in the game as a roleplayer and you will have your answer.
 
Something established and with a fine foundation tested tried and true? Or coming to the frontier with the rest of us crazy settlers?
 
Its your choice
 
Welcome to the site!

RE: Decision between Servers - Imsey - 08-03-2013

Ultimately you're the only one who'll know which server will be right for you. No matter which one you pick you'll have wonderful roleplayers to engage with, all of whom will be happy to have you. Chat with people of both servers here, browse the available linkshells/free companies. There isn't a wrong choice, and you won't be alone on either server.

I'm a new player joining Balmung, which'll be a new experience for me considering I'm usually in an MMO at launch (original launch... ARR is rather unique here). However, for all that I play in those brand new worlds I've never particularly been a trailblazer so to speak, and prices at auction houses and the like always get the best of me. So, I'm personally not going to sweat things like that. XD

Best of luck either way you go, I'm sure you'll be happy!

RE: Decision between Servers - Aysun - 08-03-2013

(08-03-2013, 06:18 PM)Khy Wrote: This is a pretty unique situation, given that (as far as I know) this is the only major MMO to ever release then get shutdown and remade. This is the way I see it though... Balmung, while it may already have established groups and cliques and storylines that have taken place, it also has the most stable group of core RPers, given that these are the players who have been in the game the most and already have a ton invested in their characters and the quality of the RP community.

Now, it would be easy to look at that and see those players as potentially being elitist or RP snobs who don't want new players coming in and mucking up their storylines. And sure, there probably are at least some players who are like that. But as a whole? I'd imagine the old RP community would love for nothing more than a wave of new roleplayers with new characters and new idea to come in and bring new life to the community. After all, half the fun of RPing is meeting and interacting with new characters and sharing new stories together. So really, an already stable community with dedicated core roleplayers AND incoming new roleplayers? That sounds pretty good to me.

And, this is just my own personal opinion, but I think the whole movement of players going to Gilgamesh sucks. I mean, nothing against those who are, because I know why they're doing it and I totally understand the reasoning behind it, but at the end of the day the end result is that it's fragmenting the potential community between servers. Personally I think it'd just be funner having all the roleplayers in one place, so it's kind of disappointing.

Anyway, that's basically the reasoning in my head for why I chose Balmung.

Cheers! Summed up my thoughts more eloquently than I could. >>;

Balmung can be intimidating, but at the same time, the 'old-timers' from 1.0 are already likely outnumbered by the amount of new RPers (and non-RPers, so 1-10 won't be that lonely, that's for sure..) joining us there. Cliques are going to exist anywhere you go, and are likely already forming within the Gilgamesh community as well. You just have to take that step, and trust that you will be welcomed--which will be the case on either server. In the end it's your choice.

RE: Decision between Servers - Nel Celestine - 08-03-2013

One of the major factors for me starting this series of videos called "I Remember" PlayList Here is due to the fact there was a lot of animosity towards longtime / Legacy players.  These are people, real people, talking about their experience with the game.  Legacy Players aren't mean, scary, nasty and exclusive to each other.  They are some of the most modest, humble and helpful people I've met.  Some having met them for the first time through this series.  I will still say try both and see what feels right for you, but don't do it because of "Legacy" or "Fresh Start".  Both of those things won't mean anything come Nov.  Three Months and I'm positive every non-legacy server will have had their hardcore player base "Server First" everything.

RE: Decision between Servers - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013

Something I just want to add so that all the new players can see this in case it was not obvious already. No matter what server you join you will never be made to feel like you are not a part of the overall RPC community. The great thing about this community is that our friendships and discussions transcend servers, so never feel like just because you choose one server the other server will alienate you.

RE: Decision between Servers - Gideon Aryeh - 08-03-2013

(08-03-2013, 06:56 PM)Aysun Wrote:
(08-03-2013, 06:18 PM)Khy Wrote: This is a pretty unique situation, given that (as far as I know) this is the only major MMO to ever release then get shutdown and remade. This is the way I see it though... Balmung, while it may already have established groups and cliques and storylines that have taken place, it also has the most stable group of core RPers, given that these are the players who have been in the game the most and already have a ton invested in their characters and the quality of the RP community.

Now, it would be easy to look at that and see those players as potentially being elitist or RP snobs who don't want new players coming in and mucking up their storylines. And sure, there probably are at least some players who are like that. But as a whole? I'd imagine the old RP community would love for nothing more than a wave of new roleplayers with new characters and new idea to come in and bring new life to the community. After all, half the fun of RPing is meeting and interacting with new characters and sharing new stories together. So really, an already stable community with dedicated core roleplayers AND incoming new roleplayers? That sounds pretty good to me.

And, this is just my own personal opinion, but I think the whole movement of players going to Gilgamesh sucks. I mean, nothing against those who are, because I know why they're doing it and I totally understand the reasoning behind it, but at the end of the day the end result is that it's fragmenting the potential community between servers. Personally I think it'd just be funner having all the roleplayers in one place, so it's kind of disappointing.

Anyway, that's basically the reasoning in my head for why I chose Balmung.

Cheers! Summed up my thoughts more eloquently than I could. >>;

Balmung can be intimidating, but at the same time, the 'old-timers' from 1.0 are already likely outnumbered by the amount of new RPers (and non-RPers, so 1-10 won't be that lonely, that's for sure..) joining us there. Cliques are going to exist anywhere you go, and are likely already forming within the Gilgamesh community as well. You just have to take that step, and trust that you will be welcomed--which will be the case on either server. In the end it's your choice.
"Cliques are going to exist anywhere you go, and are likely already forming within the Gilgamesh community as well."
 
Nope
 
Now I can't speak for whatever groups are organizing outside of the rpc, but as far as here. I don't -do- clique rp. Never have never will. Ran a tavern in GW2 had days where we welcomed new roleplayers to come join us for their first rp experience. Place was called The Golden Sun. My team then knew that clique rp was not allowed and it was the reason why we did that tavern running rp in the first place. So while I am saying its not impossible, I am definitely saying that I won't stand for it at all and show you the door if you are involved with what me and others are doing to facilitate a non elitist environment on Gilgamesh. We don't need cliquey rpers and don't want them - at all. They are bad for the community as a whole and if I am biased towards anything its concerning them and their ilk.
 
You are a cliquey roleplayer? well then go away. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord....yeah
 
*Puts on his Edna Mode voice and does the George Jefferson door slam on the cliquey roleplayers*
 
No Cliques!

RE: Decision between Servers - Aysun - 08-03-2013

(08-03-2013, 07:13 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote:
(08-03-2013, 06:56 PM)Aysun Wrote:
(08-03-2013, 06:18 PM)Khy Wrote: This is a pretty unique situation, given that (as far as I know) this is the only major MMO to ever release then get shutdown and remade. This is the way I see it though... Balmung, while it may already have established groups and cliques and storylines that have taken place, it also has the most stable group of core RPers, given that these are the players who have been in the game the most and already have a ton invested in their characters and the quality of the RP community.

Now, it would be easy to look at that and see those players as potentially being elitist or RP snobs who don't want new players coming in and mucking up their storylines. And sure, there probably are at least some players who are like that. But as a whole? I'd imagine the old RP community would love for nothing more than a wave of new roleplayers with new characters and new idea to come in and bring new life to the community. After all, half the fun of RPing is meeting and interacting with new characters and sharing new stories together. So really, an already stable community with dedicated core roleplayers AND incoming new roleplayers? That sounds pretty good to me.

And, this is just my own personal opinion, but I think the whole movement of players going to Gilgamesh sucks. I mean, nothing against those who are, because I know why they're doing it and I totally understand the reasoning behind it, but at the end of the day the end result is that it's fragmenting the potential community between servers. Personally I think it'd just be funner having all the roleplayers in one place, so it's kind of disappointing.

Anyway, that's basically the reasoning in my head for why I chose Balmung.

Cheers! Summed up my thoughts more eloquently than I could. >>;

Balmung can be intimidating, but at the same time, the 'old-timers' from 1.0 are already likely outnumbered by the amount of new RPers (and non-RPers, so 1-10 won't be that lonely, that's for sure..) joining us there. Cliques are going to exist anywhere you go, and are likely already forming within the Gilgamesh community as well. You just have to take that step, and trust that you will be welcomed--which will be the case on either server. In the end it's your choice.
"Cliques are going to exist anywhere you go, and are likely already forming within the Gilgamesh community as well."

Nope

Now I can't speak for whatever groups are organizing outside of the rpc, but as far as here. I don't -do- clique rp. Never have never will. Ran a tavern in GW2 had days where we welcomed new roleplayers to come join us for their first rp experience. Place was called The Golden Sun. My team then knew that clique rp was not allowed and it was the reason why we did that tavern running rp in the first place. So while I am saying its not impossible, I am definitely saying that I won't stand for it at all and show you the door if you are involved with what me and others are doing to facilitate a non elitist environment on Gilgamesh. We don't need cliquey rpers and don't want them - at all. They are bad for the community as a whole and if I am biased towards anything its concerning them and their ilk.

You are a cliquey roleplayer? well then go away. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord....yeah

*Puts on his Edna Mode voice*

No Cliques!

Just because you don't do clique RP doesn't mean they aren't forming. Smile You can't and don't control the entirety of Gilgamesh's RPers, and it's foolish to think you can speak for them all as well. It is natural for those of similar interests and styles to gather and RP together, and it will happen wherever you go.

RE: Decision between Servers - Ashren Dotharl - 08-03-2013

(08-03-2013, 07:13 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote: Nope
I don't want to come across as sounding rude, but can you honestly claim to speak for the entirety of the Gilgamesh community? You may not tolerate it, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's not happening and you're just not aware of it.

Edit: Aysun just said pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

RE: Decision between Servers - Myxie Tryxle - 08-03-2013

I never understood the entire "Server First!" mentality. Is it really a thing for roleplayers?

I'd compare it to an ice cream cone. While the Firster is wolfing down that cone and bragging about how they're going to be the first to finish, the rest of us are enjoying some of the tastiest ice cream of our lives.