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RE: Private Military Company - Interest Check - Ashren Dotharl - 08-22-2013
(08-22-2013, 03:04 PM)O.P.I Wrote:I wasn't aware I was being up tight or anything, I was just making an observation and giving my opinion. No need to be aggressive or defensive about it. Gercho makes a good point, to some degree, about being run out of business if Garlemald took over, though the Garlean Empire has made use of free agents in the past (they did so during the story of 1.0) so it goes without saying they aren't above paying Eorzean mercenaries. If your mercenary group didn't take the job, someone else would which is why I just pointed out that a group that only cared about making profit and not about borders or morality probably wouldn't pass up work even if it was from Garlemald. Still, that's just my opinion and you're welcome to completely disregard it, I just felt I needed to defend my position since the response was so aggressive.
- you kind of need to lighten up Ashren, it's not a bad thing if a group is trying to form and try a different approach, is it?
RE: Private Military Company - Interest Check - Kae - 08-22-2013
(08-22-2013, 03:32 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: ...No need to be aggressive or defensive about it. Gercho makes a good point, to some degree, about being run out of business if Garlemald took over, though the Garlean Empire has made use of free agents in the past (they did so during the story of 1.0) so it goes without saying they aren't above paying Eorzean mercenaries. If your mercenary group didn't take the job, someone else would which is why I just pointed out that a group that only cared about making profit and not about borders or morality probably wouldn't pass up work even if it was from Garlemald....
I don't think any aggression was intended there, but yeah. No point in making a profit if you're just going to lose it when you're being stomped by your previous employer later. It did cross my mind that Garlemald would try to hire them on, it just seems like too dangerous a deal for them to take.
RE: Private Military Company - Interest Check - Ashren Dotharl - 08-22-2013
(08-22-2013, 04:02 PM)Gercho Wrote:Why would you be stomped by them? The Garlean Empire aren't trying to commit genocide or wipe out Eorzea (unless you count Nael), they're ultimately trying to save it even if their methods are incredibly extreme. From what we know so far Garlemald is to some extent aware of the existence of the Ascians, and they are also opposed to the Primals. Both of which are things we the players are directly opposed to, so if they weren't so... tyrannical... they'd actually make fantastic allies.(08-22-2013, 03:32 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: ...No need to be aggressive or defensive about it. Gercho makes a good point, to some degree, about being run out of business if Garlemald took over, though the Garlean Empire has made use of free agents in the past (they did so during the story of 1.0) so it goes without saying they aren't above paying Eorzean mercenaries. If your mercenary group didn't take the job, someone else would which is why I just pointed out that a group that only cared about making profit and not about borders or morality probably wouldn't pass up work even if it was from Garlemald....
I don't think any aggression was intended there, but yeah. No point in making a profit if you're just going to lose it when you're being stomped by your previous employer later. It did cross my mind that Garlemald would try to hire them on, it just seems like too dangerous a deal for them to take.
So long as your company didn't directly interfere with them I highly doubt they'd bother with you. For all we know, the people on Othard (the first continent the conquered after their own) are living happy, meaningful lives free of Beastmen and Primals. We just view them as evil because they're a foreign force trying to invade us.
RE: Private Military Company - Interest Check - Jiggy - 08-22-2013
I really like the idea of a group that doesn't have one shared goal. They aren't all trying to save the world, but there would still be those wide eyed soldiers who think they can. It'd be really interesting to hear the different goals of all the different members.
And about this whole 'would they work for the Garlean Empire' deal, I don't think they would. Working for the Garleans would not only turn everyone around them against them, but burn bridges with many of the smaller local communities that employ them.
RE: Private Military Company - Interest Check - Kae - 08-23-2013
(08-22-2013, 04:08 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: Why would you be stomped by them? ...
...if they weren't so... tyrannical... they'd actually make fantastic allies.
While the input is appreciated, I really think I made my position on this clear. Helping Garlemald would be detrimental to their line of work. It would result in either being forced to submit to their rule along with everyone else or help whatever rebel groups pop up. You're right that "if they weren't so tyrannical they'd make fantastic allies." But they are that tyrannical.
Besides that, the idea of the group is to give people something to do outside the main city states and conflict of the game.
Garlemald is a no-go for this PMC. They wouldn't mind providing arms or selling their silence on any information they happen to come across, but it's left at that.
(08-22-2013, 04:39 PM)Jiggy Wrote: I really like the idea of a group that doesn't have one shared goal. They aren't all trying to save the world, but there would still be those wide eyed soldiers who think they can. It'd be really interesting to hear the different goals of all the different members.
And about this whole 'would they work for the Garlean Empire' deal, I don't think they would. Working for the Garleans would not only turn everyone around them against them, but burn bridges with many of the smaller local communities that employ them.
This is what I'm hoping to promote. ;) Heroes and self-servers all in the same boat having to adjust to work together. Glad you like.
While they're not worried about turning people against them, I get what you mean about burning bridges. They'd run out of clients if the Garlean Empire's push succeeded. Good to see it doesn't just make sense to me.
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With the responses I'm getting it's looking like this Free Company will be up and around sometime very soon. We're already working on getting a site and page up, so anyone interested can be on the look out for it. Still looking for members, employers, and allies.
If you've got any questions, ideas, or suggestions, post them up or send them directly through PM.