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RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Olofantur - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 10:49 AM)Illira Wrote: I have to say that I'm pretty sad that its iLevel and Class restricted.

I totally understand, I was really hoping to be able to use my summoners boots along with a mix of some other gear along with my black mage, but alas..

I'm sure you comparison was just for comparisons sake, but as a note, you can wear infantry gear as a PLD. [since its DoW] And hopefully that means you will be able to Glamour it. [Edit: "it" being PLD gear to match infantry gear.]
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/335789/

Maybe the system will undergo some adjustments in the next expansion if enough people voice dissatisfaction.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Illira - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 10:54 AM)Olofantur Wrote: I'm sure you comparison was just for comparisons sake, but as a note, you can wear infantry gear as a PLD. [since its DoW] And hopefully that means you will be able to Glamour it. [Edit: "it" being PLD gear to match infantry gear.]
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/335789/

Haha, yeah, I was just trying to think of something off the top of my head that wasn't bulky armor, or potato sacks (cause Illira would not have any wish to wear one of those...) Anyway! I stand corrected. But point still stands...

iLevel and class restrictions make me sad Sad

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Kage - 03-13-2014

To be honest I was pretty disappointed by the fact that it's not a whole character appearance and is instead something done slot by slot...

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Olofantur - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 11:21 AM)Illira Wrote: iLevel and class restrictions make me sad Sad

Like wise, I'll have to lug around my clawed darklight gauntlets instead of being able to stash them..

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Mooncalling - 03-13-2014

Something else I noticed- the letter mentions the gear has to occupy the same number of gear slots.  I take that to mean I can't glamour my awful Darklight chestpieces to something that doesn't A) Look like a Trashcan or B) Make me look EEEVVVVVIIIILLLL.  (I really hate the Darklight cowl and tanking gear. YMMV)

I am a little sad about the class restrictions, there are several outfits I would love to put together that are a mixture of DoW and DoM gear. I would love to use the pirate shirts on my SCH.  But I suppose I am not terribly surprised by it.

All that's left now is to wait and see how expensive the glamour prisms will be, though I expect the prices to be a bit nuts the first week or so.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Olofantur - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 12:50 PM)Mooncalling Wrote: I take that to mean I can't glamour my awful Darklight chestpieces to something that doesn't A) Look like a Trashcan or B) Make me look EEEVVVVVIIIILLLL.  (I really hate the Darklight cowl and tanking gear. YMMV)

Never being able to walk around as a Lancer in my Odin gear. Woe is me~ Cry

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Kage - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 12:50 PM)Mooncalling Wrote: Something else I noticed- the letter mentions the gear has to occupy the same number of gear slots.  I take that to mean I can't glamour my awful Darklight chestpieces to something that doesn't A) Look like a Trashcan or B) Make me look EEEVVVVVIIIILLLL.  (I really hate the Darklight cowl and tanking gear. YMMV)

I am a little sad about the class restrictions, there are several outfits I would love to put together that are a mixture of DoW and DoM gear. I would love to use the pirate shirts on my SCH.  But I suppose I am not terribly surprised by it.

All that's left now is to wait and see how expensive the glamour prisms will be, though I expect the prices to be a bit nuts the first week or so.
Indeed. As a lalafell, and lala only, I find the DL tank gear utterly adorable. But the DL cowl is hideous. I skipped it for my BLM main and just used a NQ Materia melded Vanya robe until I got the CT chest piece.

It'd be really nice if we could have used the vanity as real vanity for RP... this one slot per appearance is weird.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Seriphyn - 03-13-2014

What's wrong with the ilvl restriction? If you want to use the appearance of a higher level item then just wear that item lol?

Also from the screenshots, weapons will be changeable too! I was really paranoid about this, but it's all good. My only complaint is that I was hoping it would be full gear sets, not individual items, that you change. That way, I could have made a Mirage set that doesn't have any earrings, because the earrings look awful Undecided 

No matter, I'll just swap them out for those unassuming ring earrings, even if my character doesn't wear jewelry or chokers T_T

Either way, no more "LOL IMMA PRINCESS" armour for my PLD! Straight-up ordinary swordsman pls.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - allgivenover - 03-13-2014

It looks like this won't really change RP at all, but it's going to be a big help for having a more uniform outfit instead of being forced to wear mismatched pieces for PVE.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Naunet - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 10:49 AM)Illira Wrote: I have to say that I'm pretty sad that its iLevel and Class restricted. That kind of defeats like... 90% of the purpouse of a vanity system, for me at least. 

Pretty much, yeah. With the restrictions as they are (which means cloth-wearers have next to zero customization options), I don't see myself making use of this system at all.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Melkire - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 11:33 AM)Olofantur Wrote:
(03-13-2014, 11:21 AM)Illira Wrote: iLevel and class restrictions make me sad Sad

Like wise, I'll have to lug around my clawed darklight gauntlets instead of being able to stash them..

Wasn't it explicitly stated that you can stash gear?

Quote:After using a glamour prism, the gear being copied can be entrusted to your retainer.

Maybe I'm misreading that, but I doubt it.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Edgar - 03-13-2014

I shall wait until the Glamour system is actually implemented to draw my conclusions.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Olofantur - 03-13-2014

(03-13-2014, 01:45 PM)Melkire Wrote:
(03-13-2014, 11:33 AM)Olofantur Wrote:
(03-13-2014, 11:21 AM)Illira Wrote: iLevel and class restrictions make me sad Sad

Like wise, I'll have to lug around my clawed darklight gauntlets instead of being able to stash them..

Wasn't it explicitly stated that you can stash gear?

Quote:After using a glamour prism, the gear being copied can be entrusted to your retainer.

Maybe I'm misreading that, but I doubt it.
Yeah that was a bad example.

I meant that I [supposedly] won't be able to bind the appearance to a low level gear, so I won't be able to fart around actually wearing the "doctore" chest piece, but Glamoured to look like the Infantry chest, until I level up enough to actually wear it on my PUG, at which point it'll be moot and i'll just be wearing the Infantry gear.

I'm waiting to see more how the level restriction works of course, and the system as a whole, but the feelings a bit mixed.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Naunet - 03-13-2014

What Olofantur described is precisely one of my key complaints on these restrictions. If I'm leveling up a new class, I should be able to glamour any gear I have, regardless of level. If I want my level 10 THM to be wearing an Allagan tunic of whatever, then by golly I should be able to do that.

Likewise, we should be allowed to use any armor regardless of armor type.

With these two restrictions in place, it's almost guaranteed I will find no use for this system.

RE: New news, Glamour, Hardware, and 2.2 - Clover - 03-13-2014

(02-13-2014, 06:57 PM)Naunet Wrote:
(02-13-2014, 06:20 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:
  • You set up your appearance the way you like.
  • You buy or craft (some number, possibly 1) Glamour Prisms based on the item level of the equipped gear.
  • You then use the Prism, which binds to you and takes on the appearance of that gear.
  • You do something with the Prism (equip it in a new item slot?) to assume that appearance.

We don't know if it's one prism per gear, or one outfit per prism. We don't know if the prism is something that's consumed on use to apply a saved look to a particular piece of gear, or if it's something equipped. We don't know if you'll be able to apply lower ilvl gear appearances to higher ilvl prisms.

All of these "we don't know"s have the potential to turn an "okay" system (which is essentially what I was hoping it would be - modular wardrobe tabs) into something utterly useless.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who's very confused about this. I thought I might have been missing something, but no matter how many times I hear about this system, I never understand how it works ^^;

At least, is it confirmed that neither of the gears (the one with looks and the one with stats) are destroyed upon the use of a prism?

Other than that, I don't mind that you can only use the looks of gear that's equal to your level. The more you level up, the more variety you'll have. Everyone eventually gets to 50 anyway ^^