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RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Phayte - 09-02-2014

(09-02-2014, 05:28 PM)Titor Wrote: I am looking through the folders and found the log files, however they seem to be logging everything but player text, a brief scan over them does not show any player text at all (though I see the npc chat logs there)

Hmm. I really like regex and have written things much more regex-heavy before so could probably get this to format nicely if I look into it a bit further.

It'd be pretty neat to have a tool like this thinking about it more and it would be awesome if it promoted more people sharing their stories to the community.

I haven't looked into the logs closely, but there's quite a bit of garbage in there. In addition, I think what gets logged to the files also depends on your chat filters as well. If a user use needs to copy the chat log from the game window into another application, it's still miles ahead of having to hand format/delete stuff for public posting.

Just curious, what technologies would you be using? It would be fun to lend a hand if you'd want it.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Mae - 09-02-2014

I remember MRP, and I remember GHI... but I'm also remembering a third RP addon in WoW that (at least when I was last playing seriously at the end of WotLK) was starting to replace both of those on my server. It was like MRP and GHI rolled into one. It was a bit quirky and crashed often -- my memory is suggesting that we might've been beta-testing it, as I can't find it on Curse anymore -- but we LOVED the book-maker and the ability to puppet minions/pets/NPCs to other users without having to use brackets.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Enteris - 09-02-2014

(09-02-2014, 05:37 PM)Mae Wrote: I remember MRP, and I remember GHI... but I'm also remembering a third RP addon in WoW that (at least when I was last playing seriously at the end of WotLK) was starting to replace both of those on my server. It was like MRP and GHI rolled into one. It was a bit quirky and crashed often -- my memory is suggesting that we might've been beta-testing it, as I can't find it on Curse anymore -- but we LOVED the book-maker and the ability to puppet minions/pets/NPCs to other users without having to use brackets.

Was it MRP2?


I know there was a glitchy GHI part added into MRP with 2.


And yes, the book maker was so much fun.

TotalRP. Yes. MRP and GHI rolled into one... Amazing book creator.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - McBeefâ„¢ - 09-02-2014

The big problem with the FFXIV logs it's that it's rather eccentric in how it saves them. You really have to copy them as soon as you log off. It will start rewriting parts immediately once you finish.

Anyway I found the thing, C'kayah and I collaborated on it (I wrote it, he told me what I was doing wrong ;D ). You need the JRE installed to run it.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6oWBQ_9eu4_Zzc4T19hWTNlVmc&usp=sharing

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Titor - 09-02-2014

(09-02-2014, 05:34 PM)Phayte Wrote: It'd be pretty neat to have a tool like this thinking about it more and it would be awesome if it promoted more people sharing their stories to the community.

I haven't looked into the logs closely, but there's quite a bit of garbage in there. In addition, I think what gets logged to the files also depends on your chat filters as well. If a user use needs to copy the chat log from the game window into another application, it's still miles ahead of having to hand format/delete stuff for public posting.

Just curious, what technologies would you be using? It would be fun to lend a hand if you'd want it.

I was going to use whatever technologies would be needed. I know a plethora of languages from assembly to java/python/AS2-3, whatever is needed.

I just really want to integrate myself into the community more, I have the skills but usually lack ideas. Things like the hunt tracker or such I could have made easily if the idea would have hit me at the time. ._.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - LiadansWhisper - 09-03-2014

I really want an addon API that at least allows me to customize my UI.  Please.  I need to be able to see my HoT durations.  ._.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Coatleque - 09-03-2014

At least this game is playable as is. I hate MMOs that are so convoluted you can't even do basic dungeon runs without a heavily modded UI.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Berrod Armstrong - 09-03-2014

(09-03-2014, 10:43 AM)Coatleque Wrote: At least this game is playable as is.  I hate MMOs that are so convoluted you can't even do basic dungeon runs without a heavily modded UI.
Yep, this ^

All I really need is the resizing/moving options that we already have. It's nice to play a game without having to manage addons.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - LiadansWhisper - 09-03-2014

(09-03-2014, 10:50 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote:
(09-03-2014, 10:43 AM)Coatleque Wrote: At least this game is playable as is.  I hate MMOs that are so convoluted you can't even do basic dungeon runs without a heavily modded UI.
Yep, this ^

All I really need is the resizing/moving options that we already have. It's nice to play a game without having to manage addons.

This is what I want my screen to look like, sorry:

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Can I play without this?  Sure.  Do I enjoy it as much as a healer?  No.

I want to be able to choose how my debuffs display.
I want to be able to track durations on buffs, debuffs, and HoTs.
I want to be able to have visual representations of CDs that aren't just stuck to my bars.

That's all.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Jancis - 09-03-2014

Little off topic.Moogle

I agree there, mostly because I play healer primarily. I stare at my UI and not much else. Being able to modify that is a great quality of life. I look at it so much differently than DPS.

Back on topic!
But really for Role play it would be nice to have a more versatile text box to copy/paste.

I know this is beyond basic stuff, but it would be nice to have a wardrobe viewer. That's a huge thing this game is lacking. I can try on single pieces of clothes to get ideas, but when it comes to trying to combine things I can't picture it.


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RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Phayte - 09-03-2014

(09-03-2014, 11:40 AM)Jancis Wrote: But really for Role play it would be nice to have a more versatile text box to copy/paste.

I'm curious what you mean by versatile textbox? Since yesterday, I've been thinking about it more and thought for those who play in windows mode to have like a scratch pad that always on top of the window.

When you say more versatile textbox, I think of a glorified notepad that will allow you post past the regular chatbox's limit in game, and automatically break up your paragraph into the appropriate size so you can copy and paste.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Maril - 09-03-2014

I would really like something that Rift's RP addon (Merisioux, 10 points if you get the reference) had, which is additional tagging and a meta information section. 
Essentially, beyond tagging yourself as IC/OOC/AlwaysIC you could also pick several style choices, such a Lore/Non-Lore, Mature/Non-Mature, Conflict/nonconflict and could also set yourself as Mentor which meant that you'd be willing to help newbies.
The Meta section was then used for additional information such as stating the way you wish to fight (if any), I for example used it to state that if my character was challenged then my style of fighting (freeform) would apply.

It really helped with not just getting a view of the character via descriptions and history, but also of the player so you know what to expect right off the bat - and essentially drowning any potential drama conflicts before they even happened.
There's so many ways of doing RP and it's all been influenced through the years by various games, I think it's good if people simply embrace the differences rather than fight over which way is the "correct" way to RP. And having more style choices would help that along IMO.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Kage - 09-03-2014

(09-03-2014, 11:46 AM)Phayte Wrote:
(09-03-2014, 11:40 AM)Jancis Wrote: But really for Role play it would be nice to have a more versatile text box to copy/paste.

I'm curious what you mean by versatile textbox? Since yesterday, I've been thinking about it more and thought for those who play in windows mode to have like a scratch pad that always on top of the window.

When you say more versatile textbox, I think of a glorified notepad that will allow you post past the regular chatbox's limit in game, and automatically break up your paragraph into the appropriate size so you can copy and paste.
The chatbox in FFXIV is just... so unwieldy. It constantly scrolls even when you have settings set for things... you can't easily copy and paste what you have in it. An RP session that took an hour may take you like 5+ minutes to copy and paste because you.can't.scroll.while.copying.ugh.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Phayte - 09-03-2014

(09-03-2014, 12:27 PM)ExKages Wrote: The chatbox in FFXIV is just... so unwieldy. It constantly scrolls even when you have settings set for things... you can't easily copy and paste what you have in it. An RP session that took an hour may take you like 5+ minutes to copy and paste because you.can't.scroll.while.copying.ugh.

Unfortunately for that particular scenario, there's nothing that can be done to modify the behavior of the ingame client and physical logs written by the client are unreliable. The OP was hoping to make tools for something that wouldn't violate the ToS by going into the memory to extract the data. I'm still tempted to make an attempt at this For anyone who uses ACT or FFXIV-APP, it's pretty much already doing the same thing. Instead of parsing battle data, you'd just be parsing character speech data.

RE: RP Tools and Future Addons Request Thread - Kage - 09-03-2014

You're free to look at what Natalie dabbled in? It's more of a client side application. The problem is still that the way FFXIV logs that stuff is... well... a little horrible.