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RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - Dasair - 12-13-2014
I'd be interested in this if it was organized well. Â *u* Â
Especially if it were based on rolls. Â I would live for the flops that happen, or RPing out the craptastic rolls that ensue. Â Because man, how is that not fun or hilarious to have a character all ready to kick some Aetherical butt and then roll a 2? Â So much can go wrong with magic, and that is part of why I love casters, so I am totally down for this.
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - V'aleera - 12-13-2014
Even though I don't play a magically inclined character, I think this is a really cool idea and would be a ton of fun to watch.
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - Gharen - 12-14-2014
So.. As one of the founding officers of the original Grindstone FC and former overseer, I'll throw my 2gil in. (disclaimer: I am no longer affiliated with, or have anything to do with the Grindstone in it's current form and anything I talk about is regarding the Grindstone as it was before I left.)
This was something that people have asked about since almost day one, and have even purposely gone out of their way to have been personally offended about. Cause heaven forbid we were not all inclusive.
The fact of the matter was magic was never included as part of it or as even a separate function for several reasons, first of which the grindstone premise was meant for fighters to sharpen skills of a martial nature and meant to be non lethal.
Magic no matter how you look at it doesn't have a non lethal "tazer" setting outside of sleep or stun, put simply? fire burns, lightning kills, stone crushes. And, one person's imaginary fireball could be the size of a baseball compared to another persons that leaves craters and scorches earth. With martial weapons there is none of this, "This is my lance, fist, sword, axe." etc. There is no imaginary B.S. to deal with as it is clearly defined.
And then you have man power, We ran 2 tourney's a week, I Oversaw every other weds due to work, and because as Roleplayers, we tend to be long winded by nature, it was regularly 5+ hours to get through all the fights. Even at every other week I often wound up Overseeing alone or having to pull in outside assistance if we got more participants than anticipated.
These are the primary reasons we never catered to magic users and made it's use in the fights against the rules. The amount of work required to create and maintain a system that was fair, while dealing with the eccentricities of Rper's of all types in not one, but two different events, was simply too much, we had people leave due to burn out over just having to deal with Overseeing one day a week in the events we were having.
Now that's all said, we were always fine with someone else running something if they could make it work and no one has been willing to put in the time or effort to do so to date.
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - BadDJuJu - 12-16-2014
Well this sounds like super fun, though... complicated at the moment.
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - DoomsdayClock - 12-17-2014
(12-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Verad Wrote: Of course, differences in presumed ability are the case in the Grindstone as well. You have people portraying experts with Limit Breaks as part of their repertoire and total incompetents fighting in the same patch of dirt. It's the system that equalizes things more than anything else; come up with a similar setup for a magic-based Grindstone and the problem of power difference isn't one.Exactly what I was going to say. Really the answer is to make sure players are mature, and things should work out. When Iron fights in tournaments there is a clear difference in his strength compared to say..Howl. But as players we yield to the will of the dice and make it work.
Most times this means Iron gets his legs destroyed by say....someone like Howl x.x;
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - Aaron - 12-17-2014
You could always describe in the emote how serious the magic is if it hits.
"Red X throws a fireball out his arm in an arc at his enemy, if it hit the target would suffer mild to superficial burns that spanned across a small area"
RE: A Grindstone for Mages? - W'seckhi Asah - 12-17-2014
I wonder if it'd include melee fighters who mesh magic into their styles a la Dark Knight, Red Mage, etcetera? Food for thought. Regardless, I'm interested.