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RE: Just Ascian a Question - Melkire - 01-21-2015
Want to meet Hydaelyn's Twelve now at some point in XIV's MSQ. Hyped.
RE: Just Ascian a Question - Zyrusticae - 01-21-2015
But wait. The Twelve are essentially Man's equivalent of the beast tribes' Primals, right down to their need to feed on aether relentlessly just to maintain their forms. This isn't true (at least to my knowledge) for the Ascians... what makes them so different?
RE: Just Ascian a Question - Melkire - 01-21-2015
(01-21-2015, 08:01 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: But wait. The Twelve are essentially Man's equivalent of the beast tribes' Primals, right down to their need to feed on aether relentlessly just to maintain their forms. This isn't true (at least to my knowledge) for the Ascians... what makes them so different?
That's exactly what the Scions wonder about in the MSQ when they compare the Ascians to primals. The answer seems to be, "they have a safe zone in between us and the Void that they retreat to." As for the means (the "how"), it's not expounded upon pre-2.5 to my knowledge.
tl;dr: Ascians are somehow an exception via DARK MAGICS, whereas nearly everyone else plays by the same rules.
RE: Just Ascian a Question - Dante Abigor - 01-22-2015
Personally I think the issue would be the lore we currently have for Ascians isn't enough to really make a concrete character with.
All of them being basically demigods with unfair connections aside, the lore on them is juuuust shaky enough that SE can pretty much just insert some BS that obliterates in its entirety our current understanding of what the Ascians are, how many of them can be in Eorzea at once, and if they can even exist properly in general.
For example, in 1.0 Ascians were this super fucking creepy specter looking thing that you see out of nowhere just skulking around after a quest. They never properly explain what they were, only that you would get wrecked if you messed with one.
In 2.0, they became ghost specter things that possess people or some such and they explained away what you saw in 1.0 with something like they can choose how you see them or you only see them certain ways due to lolreasons and in 2.0 they lolplotreasons it away without ever actually transitioning between the two. Or showing both EVER.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Ascians ended up being people from the Dragon Quest VIII equivalent of the Shadow World or something that can grow eight hundred arms and blow up stars with their mind. I do seem to remember Lahabrea being in the same area as the MC when Ultima weapon nuked an entire fortress and he was fine, so at this point SE just does whatever they want with em imo.