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RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Hyrist - 03-14-2015

(03-14-2015, 12:11 AM)Faye Wrote: I'm just waiting to see the already established character who "was actually an Au Ra all along."
You can stop waiting.


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RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Martiallais - 03-22-2015

Likely a brand spanking new character though I've tooled around with potentially fantasia'ing an alty.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Meena - 03-22-2015

I really hope the gender ratio is a normal one so we dont have another miqo'te incident happening. :3

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - industrythirteen - 03-22-2015

I will be killing off my current character, fantasia-ing and renaming her to an Au Ra. That's been the plan since Au Ra were announced. Haven't been RPing much at all because I'm just completely done with my current character.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - allgivenover - 03-22-2015

New just seems much more interesting to me because depending on the lore we might be getting the chance to roleplay someone totally ignorant of Eorzea and have it work completely.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - ThatOldDusk - 03-23-2015

My guy will turn into one. And depending how the lore works will determine how that will go down.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Meena - 03-27-2015

I've been uming and Ahhing about Au-ra for a while now. And I can onyl come back to the same conclusion.

I really don't like the design choice made by square on how the females look. It isn't the aesthetic of them, they're haunting in a weird creepy collectors doll way.
Ball Joint Dolls with glue on their face, what isn't to like?

What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size.

Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

Is anyone else as weirded out about the height difference as me?  I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

Thoughts?

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - allgivenover - 03-27-2015

This thread is for if your AuRa is going to be a new character or an old one. Not for discussion about the merits or flaws of the race's design.

But since we're here why not address some points?

(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size. 

Oh yes, very unnatural for sexual dimorphism to exist in a fantasy race.

The dimorphism thing is getting stupid. It happens in nature:

[Image: Male_and_female_pheasant.jpg]

Examples of extreme height difference in humans:

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(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

Better stay away from Miqo'te then as it's difficult to make one that doesn't look like an adolescent, and hoo boy are they sexualized!

It's cultural differences. In Japan youth == beauty in a way that makes the dynamic here in the west look meek.

(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

So don't play one. Not everyone has reservations about what a character can be involved with because their apparent age doesn't at least match some arbitrary real world standard.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Meena - 03-27-2015

(03-27-2015, 10:47 AM)allgivenover Wrote: This thread is for if your AuRa is going to be a new character or an old one. Not for discussion about the merits or flaws of the race's design.

But since we're here why not address some points?

(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size. 

Oh yes, very unnatural for sexual dimorphism to exist in a fantasy race.

The dimorphism thing is getting stupid. It happens in nature:



Examples of extreme height difference in humans:





(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

Better stay away from Miqo'te then as it's difficult to make one that doesn't look like an adolescent, and hoo boy are they sexualized!

It's cultural differences. In Japan youth == beauty in a way that makes the dynamic here in the west look meek.

(03-27-2015, 07:13 AM)Meena Wrote: I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

So don't play one. Not everyone has reservations about what a character can be involved with because their apparent age doesn't at least match some arbitrary real world standard.

Its great you linked a bunch of pictures and still completely missed my point.
My point was that the height difference is not within a normal difference. I am well aware sexual dimorphism occurs in reality. I just think that the sheer difference compared to the other races of Eorzea is very un-natural.

I did make it clear that this was my personal opinion, i'm not attacking anyone. I am well aware of the fact that japan objectify youth like many other Asian countries do - heck, I lived there a while.  I don't know, I was hoping for something that would scale up with the male counter-part realistically like the other races.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - allgivenover - 03-27-2015

(03-27-2015, 04:29 PM)Meena Wrote: I am well aware sexual dimorphism occurs in reality. I just think that the sheer difference compared to the other races of Eorzea is very un-natural.

Considering the possible origins of the AuRa...

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And yes I understand you arn't attacking anyone, but coming into what is obviously a thread full of people who are intent on playing AuRa and attempting to start a discussion driven with what you feel is "wrong" about them comes across as attacking people who want to play AuRa, and certainly unwelcome here when we have other threads on this very subject already.

I'm frankly tired of reading the dimorphism critique, especially when the community as a whole gravitates towards petite/young adolescent looking females in the majority while griping about AuRa dimorphism, it reeks of hypocrisy.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Aaron - 03-28-2015

No need to get so defensive dude.

Anyway I changed my mind. I might ponder an Au Ra. Maybe if u tried a different race id grow to like it.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Kismet - 03-28-2015

Honestly? Some us are just sick and tired of reading it over and over and over again.

I won't tell people to stop complaining about what they don't like... (Especially when I find it extremely ironic that people primarily call the females generic, when I can point out just as many things about the males that are just as overdone and bland.) I can say that I find those harsh critiques (albeit unintentionally) are a bit much when found in a topic that isn't even asking for that kind of opinion, though.

/shrug

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Meena - 03-29-2015

Huh? I don't find the females generic - I just think they just feel like the other races - but younger. Dragons are cool. Dolls? not so much.

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Gone. - 03-29-2015

I like dolls, though. Sad

RE: Your Au Ra: Old or New? - Fox - 03-29-2015

Anyway, to try to get back on topic instead of this dissolving further. (As the point of the thread was really "old char vs new char",) I plan on personally doing a new character(s) once the expansion comes out. I'd like to play a female and a male. They look neat so far from what I've seen of them.