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RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Unnamed Mercenary - 06-06-2015

(06-06-2015, 06:55 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:
(06-06-2015, 06:47 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: Those demimateria come from weapons that somehow magically appear when a primal is killed. Assuming a primal is summoned no more than 3 times (NM, HM and EM), and the HM is the -only- one that drops demimateria-able weapons (because they're only Ifrit, Garuda, Titan and Mog iirc?), it's basically impossible. BUT THEY'RE PRETTY. AND PLAYERS WOULD WANT THEM

It's already stretching the imagination that they're only summoning them three times (and even then one of them is so non-important it's not necessary for the MSQ - they are technically only summoned twice and once for Levi/Ramuh/Shiva)

Eh, I'm honestly using it as a canonical weapon that looks like talons for a specific monk set. I still need to make it, mind, but that's not a problem.

We most definitely fight Ifrit, Garuda and Titan three times. The game gives us lore/quests/story for each encounter. This is, however, deviating from the topic of this thread..

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Kellach Woods - 06-06-2015

Oh yeah - as you learn more of the lore you'll probably find ways to bend it to your whims for what you want to do. You might have to compromise a bit but I can't think of anything I may have wanted to do that I could not do.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Scorpio Shirica - 06-06-2015

(06-06-2015, 07:16 PM)Foxberry Wrote:
(06-06-2015, 06:40 PM)Scorpio Shirica Wrote: So Scorpio should be terrified or in disbelief if anyone claims to actually be a black mage.... and in awe or disbelief if they are a white mage? Hmmn, that seems rather unfair to RP'ers if they simply want to RP as their chosen job class.

Honestly, people should be allowed to play whatever they want. If you want to play your job class go ahead. Though do be aware there are those who may not appreciate it. However. It is your character, not their's. Enjoy your time in the game. If you want to play that character go ahead and do it. While I don't play a WHM or a BLM icly, I know there are others who did and infact in game? The community in general doesn't care. There are those here who will get upset, I've seen it. But. In the end this is your character and you're welcome to play what you want. Not everyone will want to rp with it, but you gotta find your own sort of people who will accept it.

Do know though that white magic and black magic aren't things that you would want to flaunt in public because of the Mage Wars. Even if there wasn't a stigma against WHM to begin with, the fact that black mages and white mages caused a big situation would not be something kindly looked upon.

Basically just keep in mind that there are some who may not agree to the way you play, but play it how you want regardless. They don't have to rp with you afterall, and they shouldn't be forcing their view onto you. If they do, just kindly excuse yourself. At the same time people shouldn't try to force their view onto others and expect others to rp with them. Smile
That's pretty much been my philosophy with RP for 5-6 years. But I can definitely understand being super strict about lore and wanting immersion to be exactly what you say it is. I was an elitest in the past, I get it. Just takes too much energy and I feel it limits myself to play that way. So yeah, knowing this, I understand now how/why mages would be regarded the way they are.

Reminds me a bit of how mages are treated in the Dragon Age world, but worse. I can understand why anyone on Eorzea would fear or be wary of them, a near world ending experience would affect cultures for generations. I personally plan on playing as a Scholar, but this helps me learn how other RP'ers will react and why I might run into resistance in places. It also helps me with forming my own creative backgrounds or how my character might react to others.

So all of your input is invaluable to me, I greatly appreciate it.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Martiallais - 06-07-2015

Back on topic I go!

-Duskwights in Ishgard: CHECK
-Ha ha! Fantasias: CHECK

This thread:
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RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Zoetrooper - 06-07-2015

I will more than likely be pruning some of this thread when I get home from work ( if another mod doesn't get to it first ). That said I would like to kindly remind everyone to please stay on topic.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Spethah - 06-07-2015

I'm sad that people would go out of their way to ask about a subject that's just not used very often. In fact the only times I've seen a fantasia be used is due to the writer having trouble creating a different reason aside from a reboot. Not all RPers, heavy to casual, have the creative ability to come up with something reasonable in lore and not completely over the top. Drinking something from a bottle, falling asleep and then waking up as something different is not only simple but hardly over the top. There's been a few instances and a few people that have been threatening to kick people out of their FC for IC fantasia used, but back then it wasn't proven. Now that it is I'm worried that these individuals (whoever they are, I do not know however I do know that these threats have been made numerous times) are going to cause problems because of something sooo minute. 

Also I'm taking this information lightly as there are conflicts to what this interview has said to what Yoshi-P himself has said.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - LiadansWhisper - 06-07-2015

(06-07-2015, 03:55 PM)Septha Wrote: Also I'm taking this information lightly as there are conflicts to what this interview has said to what Yoshi-P himself has said.

I'm a little confused by this.  Yoshi-P is the producer/director, but he doesn't actually write the lore for the games.  The people who do write the lore for the games have weighed in and said that it's not an actual lore item.

I'm not sure what else needs to be said, tbh.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Spethah - 06-07-2015

(06-07-2015, 03:58 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(06-07-2015, 03:55 PM)Septha Wrote: Also I'm taking this information lightly as there are conflicts to what this interview has said to what Yoshi-P himself has said.

I'm a little confused by this.  Yoshi-P is the producer/director, but he doesn't actually write the lore for the games.  The people who do write the lore for the games have weighed in and said that it's not an actual lore item.

I'm not sure what else needs to be said, tbh.

Then why are two sides saying two different things? I'm not going to believe what either have said if they're going to conflict.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Rahal - 06-07-2015

Fantasia (unofficially) confirmed as purely meta, and ways to change appearance are two completely different concepts. People need to remember this being being judgemental about storyline choices.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - LiadansWhisper - 06-07-2015

(06-07-2015, 04:00 PM)Septha Wrote: Then why are two sides saying two different things? I'm not going to believe what either have said if they're going to conflict.

Because sometimes the person who doesn't actually write the lore isn't 100% up to date on the lore, or may have forgotten something.

(06-07-2015, 04:22 PM)Rahal Wrote: Fantasia (unofficially) confirmed as purely meta, and ways to change appearance are two completely different concepts. People need to remember this being being judgemental about storyline choices.

That's true.  Fantasia being a meta item doesn't mean that there aren't other ways of changing someone's appearance.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - V'aleera - 06-07-2015

I personally don't have any intention of taking an informal, paraphrased QA posted on Tumblr particularly seriously.

But maybe I'm just a party pooper.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Kage - 06-07-2015

(06-07-2015, 04:00 PM)Septha Wrote:
(06-07-2015, 03:58 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(06-07-2015, 03:55 PM)Septha Wrote: Also I'm taking this information lightly as there are conflicts to what this interview has said to what Yoshi-P himself has said.

I'm a little confused by this.  Yoshi-P is the producer/director, but he doesn't actually write the lore for the games.  The people who do write the lore for the games have weighed in and said that it's not an actual lore item.

I'm not sure what else needs to be said, tbh.

Then why are two sides saying two different things? I'm not going to believe what either have said if they're going to conflict.
Wasn't the person who said Fantasia was really just a character bringing out their true form, Koji-Fox?

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Rahal - 06-07-2015

Same here Intaki. The problem I have is that a number of people in the RPC bully people over using a meta item to make an IC change to a character that would make sense.

Things you need a Fantasia to change:
  • Height
  • Weight/Muscle Mass
  • Chest Size
  • Skin Tone
  • Scars (Might be able to use the Aestheticician for this)
  • Patron Deity
  • Nose shape
  • Eye Colour (Might be able to use the Aestheticician for this)
So did you character grow a bit? maybe they lost weight? Maybe they got a suntan or picked up some scares? Maybe their faith changed over thier lifetime? Maybe they got into a fight and receives a broken nose? Yeah prepare to get called "bad RPers" and "Lore breakers" by these people.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Aduu Avagnar - 06-07-2015

(06-07-2015, 04:54 PM)Rahal Wrote: Same here Intaki. The problem I have is that a number of people in the RPC bully people over using a meta item to make an IC change to a character that would make sense.

Things you need a Fantasia to change:
  • Height
  • Weight/Muscle Mass
  • Chest Size
  • Skin Tone
  • Scars (Might be able to use the Aestheticician for this)
  • Patron Deity
  • Nose shape
  • Eye Colour (Might be able to use the Aestheticician for this)
So did you character grow a bit? maybe they lost weight? Maybe they got a suntan or picked up some scares? Maybe their faith changed over thier lifetime? Maybe they got into a fight and receives a broken nose? Yeah prepare to get called "bad RPers" and "Lore breakers" by these people.
its not those changes that people get upset and up in arms about its the:
'oops I was walking through an abandoned ruin and found a potion and now I'm a girl/lala/roe/cat/other now' changes.

Personally, I couldn't care less if someone wants to use it or not.

RE: FFXIV Lore Q/A - Rahal - 06-07-2015

Same here, but sadly some people are all "You used a Fantasia OOCly! It just have been found and used ICly! You're a Bad RPer!" which is what I dislike.