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RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - TheLastCandle - 07-14-2015

(07-14-2015, 10:48 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(07-14-2015, 08:28 PM)Aya Wrote: (That was also a tongue-in-cheek comment! Just enough hint of truth for it to sting though, hmmm? Wink )

I understood you right until this part.  I'm not really sure what you were getting at, but I don't think that was well done of you at all.  It's coming across as rather snide, but I'm going to assume that I'm just magically misreading it.


You can't handle the truth, Lia.

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And yes, Ishgard is great. I'm looking forward to Yvelont's story allowing him to come home soon. I've observed a great number of people roleplaying in and around the city, which is very promising.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Kellach Woods - 07-15-2015

also we've had this conversation before.

it turns out the people who want to RP in these cities are already RPing in these cities. They just happen to not be on the RPC much for the most part. Probably because practically everyone here RPs in Ul'dah and will take it as a personal affront if you don't like the place.

I personally don't care, I'll RP anywhere, but seriously I don't think I've seen that much defensive stance over a fictional city in RP since people were being Undead apologists way back in Vanilla WoW.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Gegenji - 07-16-2015

(07-15-2015, 07:22 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Probably because practically everyone here RPs in Ul'dah and will take it as a personal affront if you don't like the place.

I personally don't care, I'll RP anywhere, but seriously I don't think I've seen that much defensive stance over a fictional city in RP since people were being Undead apologists way back in Vanilla WoW.

Is this bit really necessary? It seems unnecessarily harsh and unneeded. Especially since it seems the general consensus isn't that disliking Ul'dah is some big personal affront. In fact, there has been quite some discussion about the pros and cons of Limsa Lominsa taking place. Not to mention the general consensus seems to be as you said earlier in your post - that there are people RPing in Limsa and Gridania (and now Ishgard). Whether or not they frequent the RPC is an irrelevant point - it's a matter of them being there and hopefully available to RP with.

And I personally see it less of a "defensive stance" than providing my opinion to what sounded originally like a generally broad statement that Ul'dah and the areas around it are categorically the worst places to have RP in Eorzea. I feel that it is not. Is that being super-defense about Ul'dah? Huh

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Moonlit - 07-16-2015

-quietly and unhelpfully plugs that many of the Midnight Pearl roleplay in Limsa-
People can poke at us for RP if they'd like! Most of our characters don't bite.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Arik - 07-16-2015

I and the little crew that I run with have mostly been playing in the La Noscea and Limsa area. Not because it's "the most interesting" location, but because it is the most conducive to the characters' stories and Ul'dah is the last place at least 2-3 of them would be caught right now. (All for IC reasons.)

That said, I can see a ton of potential for Ul'dah RP. I've been there a couple times myself IC, and I think it'd be a shame if folks were only looking at the Quicksand as a venue. 

I've got to agree with the others though-- If you want to see RP in other locations, then make it happen. A couple weeks ago, we picked a remote area as a sort of camping "headquarters" for the group. When we first started RPing in that village, there was no one ever there ICly, though we'd see lots of people with RP tags come and go, stop and watch us for a bit, and then leave. We virtually always RP in the open, because it's our policy to welcome outsiders should they want to join.

Within a few days, we'd log in to RP around said area and-- lo and behold-- we started encountering new groups popping up there, and now we've even had some fun, random RPs with strangers as a result. There's no way to tell if it was just a coincidence, of course, but we can't help but smile and hope that we were in some way responsible for encouraging RP in that area.

"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi obviously meant something much more significant than a digital fantasy world, but hey, it can apply to just about anything in life. vuv

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Kellach Woods - 07-16-2015

(07-16-2015, 07:43 AM)Gegenji Wrote: And I personally see it less of a "defensive stance" than providing my opinion to what sounded originally like a generally broad statement that Ul'dah and the areas around it are categorically the worst places to have RP in Eorzea. I feel that it is not. Is that being super-defense about Ul'dah? Huh

Generally if you say one bad thing about Ul'dah around here you're lucky if it doesn't end in "shut your whore mouth."

I'm kinda tired of that.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Aduu Avagnar - 07-16-2015

(07-16-2015, 08:57 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 07:43 AM)Gegenji Wrote: And I personally see it less of a "defensive stance" than providing my opinion to what sounded originally like a generally broad statement that Ul'dah and the areas around it are categorically the worst places to have RP in Eorzea. I feel that it is not. Is that being super-defense about Ul'dah? Huh

Generally if you say one bad thing about Ul'dah around here you're lucky if it doesn't end in "shut your whore mouth."

I'm kinda tired of that.
Shut your whore mouth! /jk

in all seriousness, I like the sights, I like the feel, and I like the setting for Ul'dah, which is why I made it my home.

no regrets!

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Seriphyn - 07-16-2015

(07-16-2015, 08:57 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 07:43 AM)Gegenji Wrote: And I personally see it less of a "defensive stance" than providing my opinion to what sounded originally like a generally broad statement that Ul'dah and the areas around it are categorically the worst places to have RP in Eorzea. I feel that it is not. Is that being super-defense about Ul'dah? Huh

Generally if you say one bad thing about Ul'dah around here you're lucky if it doesn't end in "shut your whore mouth."

I'm kinda tired of that.

But you're well aware you post about how Ul'dah is objectively OOC terrible at any opportunity? Most of us argue in favour of shades of grey re: Ul'dah, rather than how it outright sucks.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Cato - 07-16-2015

Ul'dah may be interesting but ultimately it's popular because it is. To state something potentially controversial...the average role-player isn't all that great at taking the initiative and so in MMO's we end up with places like Divinity's Reach, Silvermoon and Stormwind becoming the main 'to go' places for random role-play.

Luckily there's role-play to be found elsewhere...albeit to a lesser extent. Ishgard in particular seems to have quite a bit of activity which is pretty great.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Aya - 07-17-2015

(07-14-2015, 10:48 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I understood you right until this part.  I'm not really sure what you were getting at, but I don't think that was well done of you at all.  It's coming across as rather snide, but I'm going to assume that I'm just magically misreading it.
Gridania can handle a little teasing now and then! ^_^

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Siha - 07-17-2015

I did not read everything, though I tried! And I'm not sure if this is super helpful BUT...also I'm spoilering because I'm not sure what is considered spoilers technically, it comes from the AST quests.

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Edit: I found the actual game text and SS'd it for everyone! Just so you know I'm not pulling it out of nowhere. XD

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Uther - 07-17-2015

To say that Ul'dah is dangerous while the other cities are not, or whatever, is just incorrect.

The setting of Eorzea is not all flowers and clouds, like its pretty models and insane hair options want us to believe. It's pretty rough just about everywhere for just about everyone, even if the aesthetics don't lend themselves to that kind of grit. I mean, really, even the homeless people have bowflex bodies...

That aside, and back on topic with the issue of RPing elsewhere. There's been a lot of talk on this forum for a long time of "We need to move out of the Quicksand."

No one's leaving the Quicksand in mass herds. I try to not RP there because it's crowded, out-of-character for what my dude is interested in, and I once saw two lalafells emoting an extremely detailed make-out session against a column there. Seriously, like detailed down to the motion of their saliva. Gross. But the Quicksand is very popular because it has just ended up that way. It's in a convenient location, it's got seating, it's got poor people and rich people and merchants and soldiers just by virtue of being the biggest Ul'dahn tavern. It's generally a decent hub for RP, and people are always going to meet there, even if there are better places to roleplay eating a sandwich and getting hammered. RP is not spreading out any time soon in mass quantities. Like it or hate it.

I find Limsa to be more convenient for RP, personally, because of the insane amounts of empty chairs and tables in the upper deck. Gridania is just a nightmare. Seriously, there's a single tavern in the whole town and it's in an awkward spot imo. I agree that Ul'dah is not the ultimate RP location, but it's not going to change. Especially not from this thread.

I appreciate the rant on how Ul'dah is garbage though. I don't agree with everything you said, but it beats the usual "What's your character's favorite color?" threads that seem to spawn endlessly from the bad idea void that lurks and waits at the bottom of this forum and all other forums. Seems more human, and sparks an interesting conversation.

Good on you, bud.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Gegenji - 07-17-2015

(07-17-2015, 01:37 AM)Tancred Wrote: I don't agree with everything you said, but it beats the usual "What's your character's favorite color?" threads that seem to spawn endlessly from the bad idea void that lurks and waits at the bottom of this forum and all other forums. Seems more human, and sparks an interesting conversation.

Good on you, bud.

Again, can we keep the discussion on the pros and cons of the various cities and the RP that could be had there, rather than making snipes at the forum populace? It strikes me as unnecessarily mean at best and intentional baiting for flames at worst. Just like those who would like RP elsewhere than Ul'dah, if there's topics of character discussion beyond things like "favorite color" as you suggested, I would recommend making them yourself and inspire the deeper thoughts and discussion you'd like.

That all said, I have to ask - do the housing areas count for this sort of thing, too? Because I notice a lot of active RP areas are also in places like the Goblet and Mist. Some of it may be more insular due to FCs running FC-only RP, but there's also the tavern nights and other open events that are held at peoples' estates in the housing districts.

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - Rosamund - 07-17-2015

My FC almost exclusively RPs in La Noscea since we're based there. We meet up every Monday at the Missing Member and the general public is welcome to join us! We also host a bar night every two weeks just outside Costa del Sol. Might not be at very convenient times for NA players but just pointing out that there is RP outside of Ul'dah already. If you want to see more of it, put yourself out there or get in touch with people who advertise themselves as RPing in other areas. Smile

RE: Anything other than Ul'Dah - K'nahli - 08-10-2015

I've been wondering how many people would be willing to participate if we all threw together some sort of weekly planner where certain days are dedicated to certain regions/maps and basically everyone tries to meet up at the likes of Bentbranch Meadows, Buscarron's, Moraby Drydocks, Wineport, Vesper Bay and Heavensward maps etc etc(basically whatever areas are deemed popular via a poll) just for a change of scenery and to encourage a more regulated migration out from Ul'dah where people can expect to have better chances of running into others.

People could contribute ideas, reasons, justifications and even ideas for mini events that could give other people more reason to go along and help them and decide what they could do differently there that they perhaps couldn't being locked up in the same, old Quicksand.


No? No...
Naive thinking I guesssss!