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RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Faye - 09-22-2015
To the people saying "don't listen to them, you can do what you want!!" I appreciate the message and it's really nice you're being supportive, but I don't think anyone has told the OP he can't do anything? He came here for feedback, and he's receiving it.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Cato - 09-22-2015
Nobody is physically going to prevent anybody else from role-playing whatever they wish. I don't think we need to go through the same song and dance in every thread and lace every word with sugar and disclaimers to highlight that.
Now, one thing I'm very curious about is whether the creator of this thread is genuinely open to taking feedback into account or whether they've decided that they're going to go ahead with the idea no matter what advice is given. All too often we end up with a situation where a controversial idea is pitched, people highlight reasons as to why it wouldn't work/might need major improvements...and then it turns out that after multiple pages of back and forth debating the original poster simply latched onto those who agreed with their idea and ignored everything else.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Aya - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:19 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etcAll that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Graeham Wrote: Nobody is physically going to prevent anybody else from role-playing whatever they wish. I don't think we need to go through the same song and dance in every thread and lace every word with sugar and disclaimers to highlight that.im just looking for feedback and alternatives to how to incorporate my character's story. i liked the idea of manipulating nature spirits since it diverts from the usual pacts with demonic spirits as the origin or vampirism and the rp is mostly for me and my friends. i just wanted to see whats possible with magical creations based on what we know so far
Now, one thing I'm very curious about is whether the creator of this thread is genuinely open to taking feedback into account or whether they've decided that they're going to go ahead with the idea no matter what advice is given. All too often we end up with a situation where a controversial idea is pitched, people highlight reasons as to why it wouldn't work/might need major improvements...and then it turns out that after multiple pages of back and forth debating the original poster simply latched onto those who agreed with their idea and ignored everything else.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Aya Wrote:i like the sleeping in the soil idea. gives a more naturey vibe to it ^_^(09-22-2015, 12:19 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etcAll that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Aaron - 09-22-2015
In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Cato - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:39 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Graeham Wrote: Nobody is physically going to prevent anybody else from role-playing whatever they wish. I don't think we need to go through the same song and dance in every thread and lace every word with sugar and disclaimers to highlight that.im just looking for feedback and alternatives to how to incorporate my character's story. i liked the idea of manipulating nature spirits since it diverts from the usual pacts with demonic spirits as the origin or vampirism and the rp is mostly for me and my friends. i just wanted to see whats possible with magical creations based on what we know so far
Now, one thing I'm very curious about is whether the creator of this thread is genuinely open to taking feedback into account or whether they've decided that they're going to go ahead with the idea no matter what advice is given. All too often we end up with a situation where a controversial idea is pitched, people highlight reasons as to why it wouldn't work/might need major improvements...and then it turns out that after multiple pages of back and forth debating the original poster simply latched onto those who agreed with their idea and ignored everything else.
A demonic pact, however, is the most 'lore friendly' route that you can exploit. Blood is often used as a source of power in demonic rituals within FFXIV. You could also simply go down the route of playing some sort of unhinged serial killer/cannibal who believes that by consuming the blood of their victims they'll gain vitality.
Ultimately you can do whatever you like, yet if you want to interact with the community as a whole - and I'd assume you do given that you're posting this here - then you'll ideally want to ensure that you take as few liberties as possible. People are much more willing to give a controversial character concept a chance if only a few liberties are taken and it comes off as plausible. Yet when the liberties stack up and become too numerous then a lot of people lose all patience/interest.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Aaron - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:If that's the case my friend all i can say is do the best you can.(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
If anything im hoping people dont outright ignore your character. I believe everything deserves at the least a sliver of a benefit of the doubt to see if its fun. But not everyone thinks like me.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
i'd also like to point out that Thancred has been in Ul'dah for 20 years and hasnt aged a day based on flash backs lol someone get the holy water
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Caspar - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Aya Wrote:Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!! XD(09-22-2015, 12:19 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etcAll that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.
It's a little known fact that this is at least one part an accurate portrayal of a vampire.
![[Image: 0842.countses.jpg]](http://blogs.msmvps.com/bradley/files/2014/08/0842.countses.jpg)
You could play him.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote:how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - ultima_weapon - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)Caspar Wrote:soooo essentially the compulsion to do every moogle fetch quest? THE BEANS(09-22-2015, 12:34 AM)Aya Wrote:Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!! XD(09-22-2015, 12:19 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etcAll that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.
RE: Plausibility of Vampire RP - Val - 09-22-2015
(09-22-2015, 12:59 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:(09-22-2015, 12:51 AM)Val Wrote:how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do(09-22-2015, 12:48 AM)celestial_mage Wrote:(09-22-2015, 12:43 AM)Aaron Wrote: In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol
90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.
Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.
But what do i know.
That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.
That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.