RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Virella - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 08:07 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: How many NPCs are going to succumb to CORRUPTION in this expansion? OLD GODS DID IT
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Teadrinker - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 08:08 PM)Virella Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:07 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: How many NPCs are going to succumb to CORRUPTION in this expansion? OLD GODS DID IT
Only Dragon wang can purify Jaina now gusy.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Oli! - 11-26-2015
Blizzard used to have okay (if somewhat convoluted) storytelling back from WC-1 up to WoW Vanilla.
Then for some reason they decided to throw most of what they had out the window in  Burning Crusade.
Yes I'm still bitter about the Draenei retcon, shut up.
Still, I maintain that WotLK had some of the best story content of the game.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Virella - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 08:10 PM)Teadrinker Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:08 PM)Virella Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:07 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: How many NPCs are going to succumb to CORRUPTION in this expansion? OLD GODS DID IT
Only Dragon wang can purify Jaina now gusy. Urgh don't even get me going on that relationship. My Kirin Tor dropped the ball IC when she found out, and started to do her own shit. I'm glad she appears to be gone next expansion
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Oli! - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 08:33 PM)Virella Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:10 PM)Teadrinker Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:08 PM)Virella Wrote: (11-26-2015, 08:07 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: How many NPCs are going to succumb to CORRUPTION in this expansion? OLD GODS DID IT
Only Dragon wang can purify Jaina now gusy. Urgh don't even get me going on that relationship. My Kirin Tor dropped the ball IC when she found out, and started to do her own shit. I'm glad she appears to be gone next expansion
shhhhh
i'm trying to think here
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Fancy Pants - 11-27-2015
When SWG died and I faded away from TOR after a year or so, I did try WoW for a little while. I played a basic warrior to see how it all felt to me and I was a worgen. The game missed a lot of points with me on a personal level in its character creation as everyone is literally just a bulging rage freak with the proportions of a damn fridge. In fact everyone is disproportionate! The story and lore behind the series is interesting at some points, but the greatest strength of WoW is also its greatest weakness - I feel. Everyone knows about it and everyone plays it and every server is flooded. It's like plunging head first into a deep snack bowl of trail mix at a low end bar. The community, at least on Moonguard and maybe Wyrmrest Accord, isn't the greatest and more often than not I just want to back as far away from it as I possibly can.
I did like the mounts though, but I hated that we couldn't cusotmize them or that we couldn't diversify at all if we wanted high end mounts ie have the stats of one mount and the skin of another, choose sadles and all that other stuff. Seriously with some of the races those mounts are like choosing a second extension of yourself. The world certainly feels big and it does gradually evolve, but yeah. It's not gonna save it for me. Aerial mounts/combat are a cool idea.
As far as races go I'd say my favorites are - Tauren, Worgen, Orcs and Forsaken in that general order. And I loved that we could actually sit on couches, chairs and all that. Seriously why have MMORPG's moved away from dynamic environments like that?
My stay in that game was very brief, but I did enjoy it for what it was worth. Don't think I'd go back though - community is important and the char creator is pretty abysmal for WoW.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Parth Makeo - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 12:26 AM)Fancy Pants Wrote: When SWG died and I faded away from TOR after a year or so, I did try WoW for a little while. I played a basic warrior to see how it all felt to me and I was a worgen. The game missed a lot of points with me on a personal level in its character creation as everyone is literally just a bulging rage freak with the proportions of a damn fridge. In fact everyone is disproportionate! The story and lore behind the series is interesting at some points, but the greatest strength of WoW is also its greatest weakness - I feel. Everyone knows about it and everyone plays it and every server is flooded. It's like plunging head first into a deep snack bowl of trail mix at a low end bar. The community, at least on Moonguard and maybe Wyrmrest Accord, isn't the greatest and more often than not I just want to back as far away from it as I possibly can.
I did like the mounts though, but I hated that we couldn't cusotmize them or that we couldn't diversify at all if we wanted high end mounts ie have the stats of one mount and the skin of another, choose sadles and all that other stuff. Seriously with some of the races those mounts are like choosing a second extension of yourself. The world certainly feels big and it does gradually evolve, but yeah. It's not gonna save it for me. Aerial mounts/combat are a cool idea.
As far as races go I'd say my favorites are - Tauren, Worgen, Orcs and Forsaken in that general order. And I loved that we could actually sit on couches, chairs and all that. Seriously why have MMORPG's moved away from dynamic environments like that?
My stay in that game was very brief, but I did enjoy it for what it was worth. Don't think I'd go back though - community is important and the char creator is pretty abysmal for WoW. Funny story about Community...
This is long so...making spoiler to hide it.
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Back when i was playing this, i RPed in my off time from Vanilla to about BC and when Wrath came i RPed head long into it. The quality of RP started to decline slowly in Wrath due to people making their DKs out of the intended lore that you start with, even going as far as saying 'this DK is prego' when it is known that you are most likely a resurrected dead body from the start. Yet the RP was still good...
And then this is where part of my story is how i went into FF14 for RP mostly.Â
Back in Cata, i recreated my character to be a Night Elf Mage. I did extensive research and made a very interesting and believable backstory for her (she was about 1k+ years old, far before first war but def after sundering), and did all i can to not make her god mod. I respected both aspects of night elves and the Arcane Magic. But i was also casually raiding in Cata. I was on Wyrmrest Accord at the time and while i was RPing, I started to get odd whispers...
"Are you a dragon?"
"You a dargon?"
"I noticed your character's name, so are you a dragon?"
It was then that my name (Yuyuko Timebender) was apparently the issue. So i swapped it for Yuyuko Leyleaf...and still i got whispers.
"Your MRP is so wrong."
"How can your character still live after *event* happened?"
"Stupid, High Elves would never take a Night Elf in."Â
But that is just an example. I was getting so much hate...Big time. I did what i could to ignore this stuff but the more it happened, the less my Public RP became because of people ignoring my character advancing them politely without doing anything godmodding or rule breaking. Worse is I never did a singe thing to these people...
The Nail that was set over the coffin was the Dragonwrath staff (A legendary item from Firelands at the time) and when I finished it, i decided to use it in my RP only for cosmetic purposes. It's secondary effect i was planning to make it a spell she can use as only an illusion during flight (Much like Mediev with his raven thing) and that i can't attack nor maintain it if i get hit while like that. I was putting A LOT of effort into this idea and so on.....and then it happened.
"Wow, using Dragonwrath? Are you a dragon?"
"Why is a dragon in stormwind?"
"Quit using that staff in your RP"
"Is that the dragonwrath? Because you can't use it."
And so on...and so on...for nearly a couple days after i got it. I have video proof of the day I got the staff which let's face it was the fine day and it was just when i got it. But after it spiraled into shit after shit. People accusing me of being manipulative, people saying i am rude or mean...and it got so bad that i was finally done.Â
Pardon the quality. ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif)
[youtube]L6liyQltTU4[/youtube]
So by Mists, I hung up my wow RP, realizing that the quality of public community was complete and utter shite.
So it wasn't until some time that after i played into Mists of Pandaria, that i really wanted to RP again. By this point i had all but retired my character (despite still having some fanart and RP ideas for her ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif) ) and focused on raiding soley.
Now i was one who also got into FF14's beta (2.0) and while the first didn't get me, this beta was what made me enjoy the game...and then i stopped due to grind heavy at the start. I came back after finding these forums, looking over characters, asking for advice and getting help from people (Which the community of wow didn't do for me and had to learn it all myself) and thus i enjoyed the RP here a lot more than previous MMO or forums.
Sorry about the rambling.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Oli! - 11-27-2015
Did you explicitly state it wasn't the Dragonwrath?
Because if not, that may have been the problem.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Fancy Pants - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 01:05 AM)Parth Makeo Wrote: This is long so...making spoiler to hide it.
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Back when i was playing this, i RPed in my off time from Vanilla to about BC and when Wrath came i RPed head long into it. The quality of RP started to decline slowly in Wrath due to people making their DKs out of the intended lore that you start with, even going as far as saying 'this DK is prego' when it is known that you are most likely a resurrected dead body from the start. Yet the RP was still good...
And then this is where part of my story is how i went into FF14 for RP mostly.Â
Back in Cata, i recreated my character to be a Night Elf Mage. I did extensive research and made a very interesting and believable backstory for her (she was about 1k+ years old, far before first war but def after sundering), and did all i can to not make her god mod. I respected both aspects of night elves and the Arcane Magic. But i was also casually raiding in Cata. I was on Wyrmrest Accord at the time and while i was RPing, I started to get odd whispers...
"Are you a dragon?"
"You a dargon?"
"I noticed your character's name, so are you a dragon?"
It was then that my name (Yuyuko Timebender) was apparently the issue. So i swapped it for Yuyuko Leyleaf...and still i got whispers.
"Your MRP is so wrong."
"How can your character still live after *event* happened?"
"Stupid, High Elves would never take a Night Elf in."Â
But that is just an example. I was getting so much hate...Big time. I did what i could to ignore this stuff but the more it happened, the less my Public RP became because of people ignoring my character advancing them politely without doing anything godmodding or rule breaking. Worse is I never did a singe thing to these people...
The Nail that was set over the coffin was the Dragonwrath staff (A legendary item from Firelands at the time) and when I finished it, i decided to use it in my RP only for cosmetic purposes. It's secondary effect i was planning to make it a spell she can use as only an illusion during flight (Much like Mediev with his raven thing) and that i can't attack nor maintain it if i get hit while like that. I was putting A LOT of effort into this idea and so on.....and then it happened.
"Wow, using Dragonwrath? Are you a dragon?"
"Why is a dragon in stormwind?"
"Quit using that staff in your RP"
"Is that the dragonwrath? Because you can't use it."
And so on...and so on...for nearly a couple days after i got it. I have video proof of the day I got the staff which let's face it was the fine day and it was just when i got it. But after it spiraled into shit after shit. People accusing me of being manipulative, people saying i am rude or mean...and it got so bad that i was finally done.Â
Pardon the quality. ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif)
[youtube]L6liyQltTU4[/youtube]
So by Mists, I hung up my wow RP, realizing that the quality of public community was complete and utter shite.
So it wasn't until some time that after i played into Mists of Pandaria, that i really wanted to RP again. By this point i had all but retired my character (despite still having some fanart and RP ideas for her ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif) ) and focused on raiding soley.
Now i was one who also got into FF14's beta (2.0) and while the first didn't get me, this beta was what made me enjoy the game...and then i stopped due to grind heavy at the start. I came back after finding these forums, looking over characters, asking for advice and getting help from people (Which the community of wow didn't do for me and had to learn it all myself) and thus i enjoyed the RP here a lot more than previous MMO or forums.
Sorry about the rambling. ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Your story is very common sadly. I've heard almost that same story more times than I can count and it's a sad state of affairs. But funny thing about WoW is there's a way that you can tell if a player is truly rping a dragon. They tell you they are. Seriously a bunch of rpers there will scream to the heavens that they are a dragon in disguise and all this other stuff. It's kinda funny even if I wonder if they did their research on the material . But Im generally a good sport if it's done well or in an interesting way. I love dragons myself and the idea of being somewhat connected to them. It's why I thought the dragoon class in FF 11 was awesome because of their little dragon/wyvern pet. I'd love to play as a race or a class that also carries the dragon concept further than that though like the Drakkin race from EQ2, or a class that sort of has you drink dragon blood or partner with a dragon for power. Maybe one day.
But back to the topic of WoW - it's not worth 15 bucks an hour sadly. I really am trying to think of something positive to say about Wow that I haven't stated already, but all I can think is Goldshire *shudders*. Buuuut WoW did give me this and Im happy about this. ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
EDIT: OOO! Another positive - their beast races actually leaned more toward the beast than humanoid which I really liked and felt was a breath of fresh air. It's also why I love the charr in GW2. Mount? I AM MY OWN MOUNT! *gets on all fours and runs*
[youtube]1waVSu4adDM[/youtube]
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - LiadansWhisper - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 01:25 AM)Oli! Wrote: Did you explicitly state it wasn't the Dragonwrath?
Because if not, that may have been the problem.
She was on Wyrmrest Accord. It wouldn't have mattered.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Oli! - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 01:32 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: (11-27-2015, 01:25 AM)Oli! Wrote: Did you explicitly state it wasn't the Dragonwrath?
Because if not, that may have been the problem.
She was on Wyrmrest Accord. Â It wouldn't have mattered.
I never had a problem on WRA personally, which is why I asked.
I've seen some weird shit, though.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Gabineaux - 11-27-2015
Well. Shadow priest relic I mean, legendary? I mean, what the fuck are they calling it? What ever, it's a dagger. Nope. The holy weapon looks neat. Disc weapon meh.
What else do I have. A ret paladin. Maybe? Never liked ashbringer that much.
I recently poked my head in the door and saw that I have to grind three new reputations to be able to fly in draenor. Nope. Nah. Nooooo. That game destroyed daily quests for me. After the hyjal grind I look at beast tribe dailies on this game and just shake my head and back away. (I do like the mushroom chair but was it worth it?)
All I know is, I'll be poking around for Legion to see what's what. I heard they're stealing taking some suggestions from other MMOs. Such as, wardrobe from guildwars 2, relic weapons from FF, level syncing in zones so you can level anywhere, etc etc.
I don't know what I'll do with all my free bag/bank/voidbank space.
The one thing. ONE THING I like about WoW over this game is the lack of a global cooldown. As a healer, that goddamn global cooldown just makes me want to strangle a dolphin sometimes. I log onto WoW and heal something and go holy shit what is going on I press a button and the thing happens? I still haven't gotten over it. I press my buttons while playing FF like if I press them faster the GCD will fuck off. It never does. My wrists hurt.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - Virella - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 01:31 AM)Fancy Pants Wrote: (11-27-2015, 01:05 AM)Parth Makeo Wrote: This is long so...making spoiler to hide it.
Show Content
Spoiler
Back when i was playing this, i RPed in my off time from Vanilla to about BC and when Wrath came i RPed head long into it. The quality of RP started to decline slowly in Wrath due to people making their DKs out of the intended lore that you start with, even going as far as saying 'this DK is prego' when it is known that you are most likely a resurrected dead body from the start. Yet the RP was still good...
And then this is where part of my story is how i went into FF14 for RP mostly.Â
Back in Cata, i recreated my character to be a Night Elf Mage. I did extensive research and made a very interesting and believable backstory for her (she was about 1k+ years old, far before first war but def after sundering), and did all i can to not make her god mod. I respected both aspects of night elves and the Arcane Magic. But i was also casually raiding in Cata. I was on Wyrmrest Accord at the time and while i was RPing, I started to get odd whispers...
"Are you a dragon?"
"You a dargon?"
"I noticed your character's name, so are you a dragon?"
It was then that my name (Yuyuko Timebender) was apparently the issue. So i swapped it for Yuyuko Leyleaf...and still i got whispers.
"Your MRP is so wrong."
"How can your character still live after *event* happened?"
"Stupid, High Elves would never take a Night Elf in."Â
But that is just an example. I was getting so much hate...Big time. I did what i could to ignore this stuff but the more it happened, the less my Public RP became because of people ignoring my character advancing them politely without doing anything godmodding or rule breaking. Worse is I never did a singe thing to these people...
The Nail that was set over the coffin was the Dragonwrath staff (A legendary item from Firelands at the time) and when I finished it, i decided to use it in my RP only for cosmetic purposes. It's secondary effect i was planning to make it a spell she can use as only an illusion during flight (Much like Mediev with his raven thing) and that i can't attack nor maintain it if i get hit while like that. I was putting A LOT of effort into this idea and so on.....and then it happened.
"Wow, using Dragonwrath? Are you a dragon?"
"Why is a dragon in stormwind?"
"Quit using that staff in your RP"
"Is that the dragonwrath? Because you can't use it."
And so on...and so on...for nearly a couple days after i got it. I have video proof of the day I got the staff which let's face it was the fine day and it was just when i got it. But after it spiraled into shit after shit. People accusing me of being manipulative, people saying i am rude or mean...and it got so bad that i was finally done.Â
Pardon the quality. ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif)
[youtube]L6liyQltTU4[/youtube]
So by Mists, I hung up my wow RP, realizing that the quality of public community was complete and utter shite.
So it wasn't until some time that after i played into Mists of Pandaria, that i really wanted to RP again. By this point i had all but retired my character (despite still having some fanart and RP ideas for her ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif) ) and focused on raiding soley.
Now i was one who also got into FF14's beta (2.0) and while the first didn't get me, this beta was what made me enjoy the game...and then i stopped due to grind heavy at the start. I came back after finding these forums, looking over characters, asking for advice and getting help from people (Which the community of wow didn't do for me and had to learn it all myself) and thus i enjoyed the RP here a lot more than previous MMO or forums.
Sorry about the rambling. ![Sad Sad](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Your story is very common sadly. I've heard almost that same story more times than I can count and it's a sad state of affairs. But funny thing about WoW is there's a way that you can tell if a player is truly rping a dragon. They tell you they are. Seriously a bunch of rpers there will scream to the heavens that they are a dragon in disguise and all this other stuff. It's kinda funny even if I wonder if they did their research on the material . But Im generally a good sport if it's done well or in an interesting way. I love dragons myself and the idea of being somewhat connected to them. It's why I thought the dragoon class in FF 11 was awesome because of their little dragon/wyvern pet. I'd love to play as a race or a class that also carries the dragon concept further than that though like the Drakkin race from EQ2, or a class that sort of has you drink dragon blood or partner with a dragon for power. Maybe one day.
But back to the topic of WoW - it's not worth 15 bucks an hour sadly. I really am trying to think of something positive to say about Wow that I haven't stated already, but all I can think is Goldshire *shudders*. Buuuut WoW did give me this and Im happy about this. ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/mybb18/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
EDIT: OOO! Another positive - their beast races actually leaned more toward the beast than humanoid which I really liked and felt was a breath of fresh air. It's also why I love the charr in GW2. Mount? I AM MY OWN MOUNT! *gets on all fours and runs*
[youtube]1waVSu4adDM[/youtube] Bro, we have dragon people. They just happen to be cursed, snobby, catholic elves and not bestial looking peeps.
Did you even Heavenswards????????
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - -no longer matters- - 11-27-2015
I agree the Beastial Races in WoW are so much better than 14's Cosplayer Beast people.
RE: WoW Talk (Oh no...not this again) - allgivenover - 11-27-2015
(11-27-2015, 04:15 AM)Isse Takayama Wrote: The one thing. ONE THING I like about WoW over this game is the lack of a global cooldown. As a healer, that goddamn global cooldown just makes me want to strangle a dolphin sometimes. I log onto WoW and heal something and go holy shit what is going on I press a button and the thing happens? I still haven't gotten over it. I press my buttons while playing FF like if I press them faster the GCD will fuck off. It never does. My wrists hurt.
Having to think a few moments ahead rather than spam buttons to keep people alive can be a little inconvenient I guess.
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