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RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Valence - 03-29-2017
From where does all the flood came from? With a bit of imagination, I could guess it comes from the surroundings of the Shroud, that is as you might have noticed, a rather wet area. For all we know there is a lake somewhere near at the bottom of Gyr Abania. It looks wrong the way it's done only because we don't know of such a location and haven't seen one around (yet).
And maybe the dragon is just a fucking huge water aspected crystal and MAGICKS, SON...
(03-28-2017, 09:25 PM)Nero Wrote: It's worth noting that Heavensward had almost the exact same set-up: going to Ishgard was purely reactionary after the bullhockey that was the Sultana business (and the Warrior of Light inexplicably not having any of their weapons and not turning the Crystal Braves into unrecognisable piles of gore).
One of the things I wish would change about how Square Enix does its story telling is making the protagonists proactive rather than reactive.
The WoL could have reduced them to a bloody pulp, and I had the same reaction for like, 5s when it happened in 2.55. But it actually shows that the WoL is not an idiot is not going to throw it like Raubahn under a fit of rage and play directly in the hands of their enemies, in the middle of everyone.
That was actually a wise move to do.
And... proactive? Sure, give me back 1.0 story. Was thousand times above the shonen we have been getting since ARR.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Valence - 03-29-2017
Gosetsu is obviously a roegadyn model, with a specific, unique face.
The same way Lyse/Yda is a midlander with a unique face.
The same way Raubahn is a highlander with a unique face.
The same way Yugiri is a Raen with a unique face and scale gradient.
etc etc
Unique NPCs tend to have unique faces specifically tailored due to their prominence in the storyline.
(03-29-2017, 05:15 AM)Valeera Wrote: Conversely, the geopolitical unity ultimately resulting in the modern Eorzean Alliance only exists because of Ala Mhigo's invasion of Gridania and Ishgard's intervention. Also the widespread commercial use of chocobos.
Ala Mhigans doing stupid things and accidentally causing positive results seems to be an ongoing trend.
Though the Eorzean Alliance was just a thing of a time, a war coalition more than anything, before it collapsed just when the Mighans were beaten eventually. The modern version of it, a long lasting one, but fragile one, is very recent.
It took decades for it to be rebuilt, and it's one of the themes of 1.0. When 1.0 starts, they are really depicted as isolated and bickering free cities that don't care much for each other.
1.0 was also a lot more harsh with Ala-Migho overall. They were depicted by Minfillia as "having done their best to repel the Garlean invasion, only to find their iron blades and their modest magicks to be no match for Empire's machina." Without speaking about their civil war, or course.
But when you see the actual Ala-Mighan resistance in 1.0, it's almost laughable. They are depicted as desperate people with barely their clothes on their shoulders and dressing like animals, only armed like peasants. And then they go try to steal an airship to supposedly go do damage and free their city (a single garlean airship? lol?), because the only thing they have for themselves is nothing more to lose and a true despair calling, so thick you can actually feel it. They don't even start to even comprehend the power they are facing, and when they all get slaughtered by Baelsar, they speak of disbanding the Resistance already.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Virella - 03-29-2017
Also why did we let that ugly roe escape? I feel the WoL should have learned by now to kill their enemies asap? Jfc SE.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Ellmida - 03-29-2017
Lyse says Yda died 6 years ago but honestly I'm wondering...Did she really?
She makes a point to say it's not really clear what caused her death it was just assuming she had been overwhelmed by imperialists is my understanding, plus the story seems to make a point of having these plot twists create some impact but you the hero had no indication Yda was behaving different, even those present in 1.0 are uncertain if they ever met the real Yda.
I don't know, part of me suspects we will be seeing another twist to the Yda/Lyse story
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Aaron - 03-29-2017
Omega vs Shinryu was like watching two Kaiju fight and I loved every second of it.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Valence - 03-29-2017
(03-29-2017, 10:19 AM)Ellmida Wrote: Lyse says Yda died 6 years ago but honestly I'm wondering...Did she really?
She makes a point to say it's not really clear what caused her death it was just assuming she had been overwhelmed by imperialists is my understanding, plus the story seems to make a point of having these plot twists create some impact but you the hero had no indication Yda was behaving different, even those present in 1.0 are uncertain if they ever met the real Yda.
I don't know, part of me suspects we will be seeing another twist to the Yda/Lyse story
I don't understand the scenario's need for Yda to be someone different from Lyse. It brings absolutely nothing to the story but confusion. We never knew Yda then, and it just makes her a part of Lyse backstory.... To what purpose?
Yes, I feel there might be more to it, or otherwise, it has very little interest in itself.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Parth Makeo - 03-30-2017
I think the real question is...
What do we do now until expansion?
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Ellmida - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 10:07 AM)Parth Makeo Wrote: I think the real question is...
What do we do now until expansion?
Sharpen our weapons for the Great Housing War of 2017?
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Gegenji - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 10:07 AM)Parth Makeo Wrote: I think the real question is...
What do we do now until expansion?
... R-RP?
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Caspar - 03-30-2017
This was a pretty cool episode of Godzilla. Toho Entertainment really stepped up their cgi.
What? There was story this patch? I remember being amused by Nero and Gotetsu, but the rest is a blank. Yda is going to be called that anyway because her big reveal was as relevant as Illberd being the Griffin was surprising.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Gegenji - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 12:38 PM)Caspar Wrote: What? There was story this patch? I remember being amused by Nero and Gotetsu, but the rest is a blank.Don't forget the outfit. We got that outfit. Now I can dress Gogon in business casual.
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Kage - 03-30-2017
"We couldn't fit it in main 3.5 because we couldn't finish the cutscene in time. "
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Ferus - 03-30-2017
To be fair, that cutscene was more fun to watch than the entirety of FFXV.
#shade
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Nako Vesh - 03-30-2017
I'm actually really disappointed the big DBZ fight didn't spill over into the Shroud and incur some good ol' fashioned Greenwrath. I wanted to see some imperial scum get vaporized, damn it!
RE: [Spoilers] 3.56 MSQ Talk spoilers here. - Ferus - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 02:25 PM)Nako Vesh Wrote: I'm actually really disappointed the big DBZ fight didn't spill over into the Shroud and incur some good ol' fashioned Greenwrath. I wanted to see some imperial scum get vaporized, damn it!
I thought the elementals had been incapable of doing that for all of ARR because the Calamity weakened them or something?