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RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Yini Kihn - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 03:45 AM)Selsix Wrote: You tell people what it was, then explain that it's now just an alternative to Balmung. Then you tell them to try both, and see which they like best.

Not as difficult as it sounds. I promise.

Perhaps none of this will be relevant once server transfers open up anyway. We may even see a consolidation of the RP community in the end! Who knows!

In any case, i believe this thread has run its course. If those in charge wish to change the message to make the difference between the servers clear, inform the misinformed that new characters can be made on Balmung, and point people to a dedicated thread for related questions, great! If not, well… I tried!

Thanks for the show of support, everyone!

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Yeldir Melfusor - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 01:56 AM)Ashren Snow Wrote: So... what happens when everyone is the same level and all doing the same content and Legacy and Non-Legacy are no longer a thing, what do we call Gilgamesh then? The other server, server 2?

We call it Gilgamesh, my good fellow.  =P

Snark aside, what I mean by this is that on that day, assuming the Gilgamesh community thrives, it will be the source of its own distinguishing features, whatever those may be.

I think the stance the mods are taking on this one is extremely tactful.  It ensures we're the ones who are obligated to sort this out, (or not).  New players will view how this two-headed (and one-bodied) ettin of a community interacts, and they'll choose their server on this basis.  That's as pure an informed decision as anyone's going to get.

Edit: Well, so much for that. Oh well. No sense sweating the small stuff.

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Sienna - 08-08-2013

I think there's been an issue of lack of communication from the Mods side, here.

It's been a little over a month since the whole neutral stance began, but unless I missed some major post there was never any Higher-up notice stating that the servers were going to have their primary/secondary status removed. 

I think that, if this had come up vocally from the leadership, this issue might have died down by now if it had been there for people to read, see, and reference for whenever this topic came up.

Please keep us in the loop for things that are of importance involving the community as and when they occur. D:

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Alexandr Nocturne - 08-08-2013

First, I approve of the change.

Second, please stop this. Balmung players, take a look at yourself. Some (not all) of you are getting quite nasty and venomous...then wonder why the Gilgamesh players don't want to play with you? There are two servers, one legacy, one non. No matter how justified either side feels, being nasty or bitter doesn't help. I know players on Balmung and Gilgamesh that are embarrased and disgusted by the infighting.

This isn't helping the RPC. And both sides are responsible. For our sake, Balmung and Gilgamesh players alike...can we please stop this?

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Alothia - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 07:32 AM)Sienna Wrote: I think there's been an issue of lack of communication from the Mods side, here.

It's been a little over a month since the whole neutral stance began, but unless I missed some major post there was never any Higher-up notice stating that the servers were going to have their primary/secondary status removed. 

I think that, if this had come up vocally from the leadership, this issue might have died down by now if it had been there for people to read, see, and reference for whenever this topic came up.

Please keep us in the loop for things that are of importance involving the community as and when they occur. D:


A lot of the moderators have chimed in on the various topics. Kylin hopped in on the other topic as well. People tend to railroad over those posts when they're made, because they're not controversial.

I vocally made a welcome post explaining the two servers, in a neutral standpoint. It's still a sticky if I remember correctly. I showed it to the admin team before it was posted, and even then, people still didn't listen to it.

We do what we can, but again, there are only so many things that we can do. A lot of us can't sit on here all day and keep the forums clean. If people would step back and not post while their heads are hot, I think a lot of this stuff would die down. *shrug*

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - ArmachiA - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 08:54 AM)Xerek Wrote: First, I approve of the change.

Second, please stop this. Balmung players, take a look at yourself. Some (not all) of you are getting quite nasty and venomous...then wonder why the Gilgamesh players don't want to play with you? There are two servers, one legacy, one non. No matter how justified either side feels, being nasty or bitter doesn't help. I know players on Balmung and Gilgamesh that are embarrased and disgusted by the infighting.

This isn't helping the RPC. And both sides are responsible. For our sake, Balmung and Gilgamesh players alike...can we please stop this?

I generally don't take sides but the Gilgamesh dude came in pretty aggressive, where's his chastising man?

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Yini Kihn - 08-08-2013

It looks like the message has been changed and a dedicated topic will be created! Yay! Thanks to whoever took care of it!

This thread was a success! Everyone wins! You can all give each other hugs now!

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - lady2beetle - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 11:01 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: I generally don't take sides but the Gilgamesh dude came in pretty aggressive, where's his chastising man?
 
It think part of the problem is that both sides are very high strung right now. Some of us who are trying not to take sides are just walking away - which leaves those who are very passionate about their possitions to stand off. It's really not a community discussion any more. It's a discussion between a few very passionate individuals across an electronic medium that makes it all but impossible to properly interpret eachother's meanings and is thus leaving the entire thing to suffer from misinterpretation of what the other side says, and more high strung-ness... etc.
 
I'm going to confess that I have gotten annoyed by some posts and I had to sit back and ask myself if it's because I felt attacked because I was the other side. Would I feel the same if I had already chosen the other server? That's what I mean by misinterpretation. We're all just pounding our fist against a wall and trying to break it down, but only getting bloody knuckles while the person on the other side doesn't see it as you trying to break down the wall separating them - they see it as you making a crap tone of noise while they are trying to watch a movie.
 
So... I'll just leave this right here.....
 
 
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RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - somrue - 08-08-2013

Hi. I'm one of the new people. I based my server decision on which server name sounded cooler. Unfortunately, I see a bunch of adults arguing over...well, its hard to say at this point. But it's one of those first impression things.

Edit: Wording. I guess this was all about wording.

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Alexandr Nocturne - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 11:01 AM)ArmachiA Wrote:
(08-08-2013, 08:54 AM)Xerek Wrote: First, I approve of the change.

Second, please stop this.  Balmung players, take a look at yourself.  Some (not all) of you are getting quite nasty and venomous...then wonder why the Gilgamesh players don't want to play with you?  There are two servers, one legacy, one non.  No matter how justified either side feels, being nasty or bitter doesn't help.  I know players on Balmung and Gilgamesh that are embarrased and disgusted by the infighting.

This isn't helping the RPC.  And both sides are responsible.  For our sake, Balmung and Gilgamesh players alike...can we please stop this?

I generally don't take sides but the Gilgamesh dude came in pretty aggressive, where's his chastising man?

Reread my thread.  I specifically said both sides are responsible.

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Ellion Goto - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 12:15 PM)Xerek Wrote:
(08-08-2013, 11:01 AM)ArmachiA Wrote:
(08-08-2013, 08:54 AM)Xerek Wrote: First, I approve of the change.

Second, please stop this.  Balmung players, take a look at yourself.  Some (not all) of you are getting quite nasty and venomous...then wonder why the Gilgamesh players don't want to play with you?  There are two servers, one legacy, one non.  No matter how justified either side feels, being nasty or bitter doesn't help.  I know players on Balmung and Gilgamesh that are embarrased and disgusted by the infighting.

This isn't helping the RPC.  And both sides are responsible.  For our sake, Balmung and Gilgamesh players alike...can we please stop this?

I generally don't take sides but the Gilgamesh dude came in pretty aggressive, where's his chastising man?

Reread my thread.  I specifically said both sides are responsible.

I reread it, she's speaking specifically about the bias singling out Balmung players (some of them), telling them to "take a look at themselves." She's asking why there was no repercussion to the Gilgamesh side (implying straight up you're bias).

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Vashies Alexander - 08-08-2013

I love this idea! Very well worded^^! 

Second i don't mind Gilgamesh being second. heck i picked Gilgamesh sever because it was new and for new people. So I like the message and how it kinda explains the severs very quickly for new people.

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Rhan'ir Azal - 08-08-2013

(08-08-2013, 11:12 AM)Yini Kihn Wrote: It looks like the message has been changed and a dedicated topic will be created! Yay! Thanks to whoever took care of it!

This thread was a success! Everyone wins! You can all give each other hugs now!
I have hugs! Anyone want one? Anyone?...Come on. <checks his breath>

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Ellion Goto - 08-08-2013

Lol, I'm down for hugs. I hope you guys do well really. I know I would like a challenge so, I can see the attraction.

RE: Server guidance for those new to the community - Ashren Dotharl - 08-08-2013

So since Yoshida announced that paid world transfers will be available weeks after launch with no mention of Legacy restrictions what-so-ever, does that kind of make the whole Legacy vs. Non-Legacy argument kind of a moot point now? Assuming there are no restrictions this means Gilgamesh will have Legacy Redditors and what not by the end of the first month of service. I only bring this up because if that's the case there's no point in even designating it as the Non-Legacy server to begin with because it'll only old that spot for about a month before it not only has it's own new level 50s, but Legacy 50s as well.