(09-19-2013, 10:01 PM)Matthias Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 08:35 PM)J Wrote: Both servers have a lot of role-play, though the quality varies. Balmung tends to take itself more seriously whilst a lot of the role-play on Gilgamesh is tied to what is essentially just a giant ERP circle passed off as 'tasteful entertainment'. There's exceptions, of course - so you'll likely find RP wherever you choose to settle.

See. This right here... This is a prime example of why these threads are not only stupid, but blatantly become a tossing of biased opinions and crap.

I'll throw my example here on how to prove this wrong though. There is one key community on the internet known for 'giant ERP circle' type RP. That's a website called Darknest. Go there and look in "Other Game Ads" and tell me what server all the ads for Final Fantasy XIV are for. This is just a prime example that... Hey, guess what, every RP community has this.

But don't go waving your elitist bullshit and attacking a full community of RPers because you feel the need to make your own part of the community seem better. I've seen some RP that's not exactly publicly acceptable. I've also seen some amazing RP come about. Most of my RP has been random, found in the world with people I didn't know before on Gilgamesh. Long standing, serious RPs are starting. Serious, extremely well written characters. Development and just exciting things are happening everywhere.

As for this thread? It should be closed. Because this is just stupid. Elitists and biased opinions will attack it in waves. If you're not sure where you want to settle? Roll a toon on both servers and stay where you feel more welcome.

That's what I did and I brought a lot of people with me. Simple as that. I have a bias for Gilgamesh, but that's because of the reactions I've gotten.

If you want to shoot your mouth off, talk shit or the like? Take it elsewhere. I don't care to hear this shit and it's not needed in a community of AMAZING people. Both servers are amazing in their own ways. Don't agree? Then you're looking through rose colored glasses to the one you prefer.

And if this kind of blow up gets me in trouble? I really don't care. It needs to be said.

Do what you find fun. Get your money per month out of it. Make friends, write good stories and promote the good and not the bad.

Peace, love and fluffy kittens.

(09-19-2013, 10:10 PM)J Wrote: Was what I said controversial? Sure, I'm willing to admit that - but I'm not the sort of guy who sugar coats my words or beats around the bush. I'm going by what I've seen for myself and I did suggest that not everyone on the server was guilty of what I mentioned.

(09-19-2013, 10:15 PM)Matthias Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 10:10 PM)J Wrote: Was what I said controversial? Sure, I'm willing to admit that - but I'm not the sort of guy who sugar coats my words or beats around the bush. I'm going by what I've seen for myself and I did suggest that not everyone on the server was guilty of what I mentioned.

And yet what you said was a blatant show of disrespect to the community overall. You are taking a minority and blaming the majority for it. I am calling you wrong, not controversial. Someone clearly blinded by their bias and elitist appearing attitude.

In short. Your opinion was neither warranted nor grounded in fact. Once more a worthless spewing of drivel to make your point seem more valid and demean a group of people.

(09-19-2013, 10:37 PM)J Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 10:15 PM)Matthias Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 10:10 PM)J Wrote: Was what I said controversial? Sure, I'm willing to admit that - but I'm not the sort of guy who sugar coats my words or beats around the bush. I'm going by what I've seen for myself and I did suggest that not everyone on the server was guilty of what I mentioned.

And yet what you said was a blatant show of disrespect to the community overall. You are taking a minority and blaming the majority for it. I am calling you wrong, not controversial. Someone clearly blinded by their bias and elitist appearing attitude.

In short. Your opinion was neither warranted nor grounded in fact. Once more a worthless spewing of drivel to make your point seem more valid and demean a group of people.

It has nothing to do with 'elitism', nor did I ever tarnish the community as a whole as being guilty of what I spoke of. Please spare me the hyperbole, personal attacks and drama. I'm here to indulge in debate and discussion, not suffer abuse from posters who can't seem to reign in their temper.

It's always baffled me when someone tries to paint another poster as 'mean' or 'elitist' only to launch a barrage of insults (thinly veiled or otherwise) in their direction. Go ahead and disagree with me, just stop with the borderline abuse, please.

@Siobhan: I see where you're coming from. As I said, I just tend to say things as they are rather than wrapping them up in a nice little bundle. If that doesn't sit well with some people, that's fine by me - I'm not here to indulge in a popularity contest or carefully tread over eggshells. If I see a problem that I perceive as large enough to be notable then I tend to tackle it and address it rather than sweep it under the rug. I've made my peace with that rubbing a lot of people the wrong way in role-playing communities, though I strive to remain on the side of the terms of service and code of conduct - thus I don't go around insulting people for having a different experience or opinion than my own. I'm also guilty of finding it fascinating to discuss the more complex issues in the role-playing community. Again, I post because I enjoy a good debate. I thank you for being mature about it, even if we might not agree on certain matters.

(09-19-2013, 10:37 PM)J Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 10:15 PM)Matthias Wrote:

(09-19-2013, 10:10 PM)J Wrote: Was what I said controversial? Sure, I'm willing to admit that - but I'm not the sort of guy who sugar coats my words or beats around the bush. I'm going by what I've seen for myself and I did suggest that not everyone on the server was guilty of what I mentioned.

And yet what you said was a blatant show of disrespect to the community overall. You are taking a minority and blaming the majority for it. I am calling you wrong, not controversial. Someone clearly blinded by their bias and elitist appearing attitude.

In short. Your opinion was neither warranted nor grounded in fact. Once more a worthless spewing of drivel to make your point seem more valid and demean a group of people.

It has nothing to do with 'elitism', nor did I ever tarnish the community as a whole as being guilty of what I spoke of. Please spare me the hyperbole, personal attacks and drama. I'm here to indulge in debate and discussion, not suffer abuse from posters who can't seem to reign in their temper.

It's always baffled me when someone tries to paint another poster as 'mean' or 'elitist' only to launch a barrage of insults (thinly veiled or otherwise) in their direction. Go ahead and disagree with me, just stop with the borderline abuse, please.

(09-19-2013, 11:26 PM)The_Wanderer Wrote: To be fair, opening with a trollish comment and then complaining about people getting riled up is *facepalm* material.

• The game (for some) just came out (again)! Many people are most likely doing the 'go go gadget GET ALL THE LEVELS' and aren't actively searching for roleplay because they want to explore all the fun of a 'New' game. This will be a moot point very soon, as the first month of the game's relaunch is upon us! Fear not, friend!
  

• Without a Linkshell or a Free Company, it's always going to be just a tad more difficult to find roleplay. People are more comfortable asking in general for roleplay among a known group of roleplayers in a linkshell or FC than they ever will be in /shout. (If you're having trouble looking for either of these, ask in /shout, or look around this site! They've got flyers and the whole nine yards for your fingertips to tap in to!)
  

• As others have suggested, try out both servers! As I said, I have found equal amounts of roleplay, as well as equal amounts of quality or lack there of on both. Right now, people are busy switching back and forth to figure it all out. The only real difference, in my experience, is that on Balmung, there are Legacy players. These players have already hit the high levels and are ready to get up and go roleplay! On the flip side, Gilgamesh has also had a few who slaved away day and night and have many level capped classes, so they are equally as ready to get going on the roleplaying! It's gonna be alright, no matter where you go. Promise.
  

• Test the waters while you're questing or crafting. A lot of the time, especially when weaving or something else that is just as stationary (for the most part), I roleplay out the frustrations of pricking needles on my fingers, growling under my breath, or outright cursing in frustration - just to see if anyone else is about and up for a spot of random roleplay! I've found great responses most of the time, too! -- Don't hesitate to also try this when questing out in the hostile territories with mobs! Someone saved my character's life the other day, so I thanked them in say. They responded, and a thirty minute session popped out of no where and also got me two levels! Huzzah!
  

(09-19-2013, 08:54 PM)Nel Celestine Wrote: I once again suggest asking a member of the officers for Intermission found here  In addition, I'm surprised that chose not to attend the cold full moon gala then if you were looking for RP.  There were well over players 200 in attendance.